New Radicals: C/D?

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-- Alex in NYC (vassife...), September 8th, 2005 11:33 PM. (later)

This. By far.

And the irony of the message of the lyrics in such a mass-marketed song.

-- Sasha (ahmar...), September 8th, 2005.

eh?

-- N_RQ (bl0cke...), September 8th, 2005 11:35 PM. (later)

Well, the song called for the 'kids' to wake up and think for themselves - which, if they followed the advice in the song, would lead to them eschewing bland commercial pap like this, no?

Bahahahahahaha

This is not at all true.

Plus: no video for a good song has ever taken place in a mall.

This is the very quintessnce of truth.

This is the very quintessnce of truth.

-- Alex in NYC (vassifer@earthlink.net

Er, Tiffany's "I Think We're Alone Now."

I interned at SPIN in 1989, hence the t-shirt.....and that also explains why it's a bit too "form fitting".

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PS. Eat a dick.

Get some sense and realize you make a public ass out of yourself regularly with a real email address.

I interned at SPIN in 1989, hence the t-shirt.....and that also explains why it's a bit too "form fitting".

That does not explain the beard, Beardy!

You obstreporously defend New Radicals, and I'm the ass? Okay, whatever you say.

That does not explain the beard, Beardy!

I really don't see any problems with having a beard. Get over your tonsorial hang-ups.

I'm not the biggest fan of the Tiffany version but "I Think We're Alone Now" is a good song, Alex. Cf. the Tommy James thread that was live a few days ago.

Well, I was referring specifically about Tiffany's rendition. And Tommy James' finest hour, for my money, is "Crimson & Clover".

As remade by Joan Jett.

It would kick your ass in, even.

Hang on a moment! Weren't the tow-headed brothers Hanson on Greggggg's list of prospective kicked-in asses? What a cop out.

Obstreporously? Yeah, you're the ass all right. If you're going to use such a ridiculous word, at least spell it right. If George Bush hid behind an anonymous proxy, he could use words like "Strategery" all day long without embarrassing himself. That's what Karl Rove and Dick Cheney do when they laughingly write his scripts.

Who's more embarrassing: Buckethead or Axl Rose?

Who's more embarrassing: Buckethead or Axl Rose?

That's a bit of a random question here, but at this point I'd say Axl. For all of Buckethead's numerous quirks, he's at least still moving forward.

Not that I'd do that, because I think "Love Like Blood" is awesome, but still, just as a hypothetical...

xpost - dont you get it? we talk mad shit about music here! people talk shit about kj all the time.

No. What I mean is, people who ostentatiously shoehorn their personal barometer into some kind of universal "objective" statement, it's a bit rum. Carry on. "You Get What You Give" is great.

And Buckethead can still stand to show his face, regardless of what he does publicly. See, there is "courage" and then there is "sense."

Oh do get one sense of humor. At the end of the day, none of this fucking matters. You like what you like, I like what I like. What would be the point of these threads if we were so painfully worried about a lilttle ribbing? This isn't a fucking think tank, for chrissakes.

And Buckethead can still stand to show his face, regardless of what he does publicly. See, there is "courage" and then there is "sense."

That's part of his act. His act isn't my cup of tea, but I think he's a decent musician. Courage doesn't enter into it. And unlike yourself, he hides behind a mask while portraying a character. You're hiding, it appears, because you're afraid of some repercussion. Good lord, man, we're just talking about music.

Alex, would you stand it if people who like, you know, pop, went on your Killing Joke threads and said "Your taste is shit"?.

You obviously haven't spent a lot of time reading any threads devoted to the band in question. It used to happen on a daily basis. Why would I care? I know what I like, and anyone else's opinion about it is nigh on meaningless, though can make for interesting reading.

Alex, Mr. Know-it-all, Buckethead has always worn a mask because he likes the idea of being able to walk down the street. Being anonymous allows him to play up whatever aspect his imagination dreams up, which is precisely what I'm doing. "Appear" is a key word in your sentence, please note. Appearances can be deceiving. For instance, you appear to be a dad who is about 5'9" and not in the most terrifying shape who works at the Voice and has some personality conflicts with his coworkers, is dissatisfied with his pay, etc. Does it appear odd to you now that I would be afraid of any repurcussions from you? BTW, Ion Records, home of Buckethead is right across the street from where you work. The building you took that picture near appears to be the same one they use in Will & Grace. It appears I could stalk the living shit out of you if I wanted!

But, of course I wouldn't because I really don't care. Like Buckethead's psycho act, this is mine.

Anyway, back on topic for the New Radicals, my feeling is that you don't know shit about it, Alex, and honestly couldn't give it a chance if you tried. You're too streamlined in your thinking.

I was given a promo disc by the band's manager something like 4 months before the New Radicals actually came out. He swore they were about to break big. So, I had a good while to enjoy it (not what I expected at first at all) and just as I was thinking that this manager was wrong, that the New Radicals were NOT going to be the "next big thing," all of a sudden a friend of mine told me he saw their video on MTV: "I saw that band you've been talking about; what is it, the New Radicals? I didn't really like it. Too teenybopper."

What? I was bummed. Then I saw the video. If I had seen the video first, perhaps I would've reacted as you did, Alex. We have very similar tastes in music, although I'm a bit more open-minded if I do say so myself. Pats back. However, I only saw the video half a time and I only ever heard "You Only Get What You Give" on the radio, so the rest of the album is purely unmarketed power pop rock for the enjoyment of my ears, along the lines of Beck and Prince. How many times have you heard the album? And do you realize that he decided to kill his contract himself? He was not a "one hit wonder" at all. Now, go back to laughing at my correct characterization
(your audacious presumption) and embarrass yourself some more.

If I knew it all, I wouldn't bother reading ILX. And I've never claimed to know it all.

Your Buckethead analogy gets weaker with each post.

For instance, you appear to be a dad who is about 5'9" and not in the most terrifying shape who works at the Voice and has some personality conflicts with his coworkers, is dissatisfied with his pay, etc.

6'1" and I don't work at the Voice (that's Chuck) I have no problems with my coworkers.

on Records, home of Buckethead is right across the street from where you work

No it isn't, actually.

It appears I could stalk the living shit out of you if I wanted!
But, of course I wouldn't because I really don't care. Like Buckethead's psycho act, this is mine.

Refresh my memory, please. It's me who is being the ass?

Anyway, back on topic for the New Radicals, my feeling is that you don't know shit about it, Alex, and honestly couldn't give it a chance if you tried. You're too streamlined in your thinking.

Clearly you don't know shit either, but I've clearly hit a nerve with you, as you need to make this a personal issue and not simply a debate about music.

We have very similar tastes in music, although I'm a bit more open-minded if I do say so myself. Pats back.

While I consider it more of burden than a blessing, I own over two-thousand compact discs, only about twenty-something of which are by Killing Joke. Again, you're the one jumping to conclusions.

How many times have you heard the album?

More time than I'd prefer. My wife owns it.

He was not a "one hit wonder" at all.

Oh really? Cite some of hits by the New Radicals.