Should I buy an Apple laptop?

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Just got the 15" Powerbook a week ago today. (My first Mac.)

So awesome! I can't wait until I dig its teeth into my high-end video stuff in a few months. I'm never going back to Windows. I may go to a *nix one day, but never back to MS.

Just wondering, though, are there any good programs for some simple WYSIWYG HTML? I don't need anything as mighty as Dreamweaver, however.

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:03 (twenty years ago) link

What is Dreamweaver?!

raphael diligent (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

I bought Airport (£20!!!) and am getting Panther pretty soon. All I need now is Reason, Fruityloops and Ableton Live.

raphael diligent (Cozen), Wednesday, 3 December 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link

What is Dreamweaver?!

Girolamo Savonarola, Wednesday, 3 December 2003 22:02 (twenty years ago) link

four years pass...

So... my old Powerbook G4 which I purchased in 2002 (I think) is finally on its last legs. The disk drive doesn't work and one of the hinges broke this weekend. While I can still use it, it has lost much of its functionality.
I'm thinking of buying a new MacBook but I'm wondering if there's any reason to believe that the prices on them will drop in the next few weeks/months?
Advice/suggestions?

wmlynch, Thursday, 14 February 2008 05:26 (sixteen years ago) link

(Blimey, toby's undergone a conversion) since 2002)

You might check the mac buyers guide:

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#MacBook

Bob Six, Thursday, 14 February 2008 07:35 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

Should I get a MacBook Air? Does anyone have one here?

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Problem with macbook air is its just too big and too expensive for a secondary/travel laptop

water, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:18 (sixteen years ago) link

um, are you really willing to pay an extra $799 dollars so that your computer can be slightly (.32") thinner than the macbook? have you ever complained about the thickness of your laptop? because if not, than you might as well save your money.

remy bean, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

manufactured demand say what

remy bean, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

but what if you are very weak?

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:25 (sixteen years ago) link

maybe you should get a desktop so you won't have to strain yourself carrying it around

dan m, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

or do squats with the extra two pounds of macbook weight over your head to build up your muscles

remy bean, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:30 (sixteen years ago) link

three vs five pound barbell weight makes a big difference, you know.

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

macbook air - the first laptop for women and small children

youn, Saturday, 26 April 2008 16:38 (sixteen years ago) link

I cannot believe how overpriced the mac laptops are at the moment (not just the Air). When I bought my MB Pro 2 years ago it seemed a bit expensive but now you can get an equivalent laptop for about half of what Apple are charging. It seems to be the only reason to buy one is if you are a designer or something and absolutely require mac os.

tpp, Saturday, 26 April 2008 18:41 (sixteen years ago) link

equivalent

designer or something

absolutely require mac os

libcrypt, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:15 (sixteen years ago) link

In which case, stay the fuck home and get a desktop machine.

Rock Hardy, Sunday, 27 April 2008 00:45 (sixteen years ago) link

t seems to be the only reason to buy one is if you are a designer or something and absolutely require mac os.

i agree they are overpriced but apple laptops have always been. if you do web development and require a unix installation though having one is nice, that way you don't have to deal with some annoying linux package.

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 18:31 (sixteen years ago) link

os x is a fucking miracle compared with other operating systems, is the reason to get one

although have people now booted os x onto all manner of intel boxen? i would imagine they have

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:23 (sixteen years ago) link

i can't get past the NO CD DRIVE thing, with the macbook Air.

Surmounter, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:25 (sixteen years ago) link

although have people now booted os x onto all manner of intel boxen? i would imagine they have

has this happened? I didn't think so

akm, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:33 (sixteen years ago) link

are you saying its easy to install unix on a mac? i read reviews and the consensus seems to be that getting a macbook is the better option.

youn, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:58 (sixteen years ago) link

Mac OS X is Unix

Ed, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

or at least *nix

Ed, Sunday, 27 April 2008 20:59 (sixteen years ago) link

have people really not managed to patch Leopard to work on even ONE (1x) make-model of non-Apple machine?? not saying it's trivial but given the interest and the talent out there i would have bet cash money someone had done it

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 April 2008 11:31 (sixteen years ago) link

http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Installation_Guides

Ed, Monday, 28 April 2008 11:33 (sixteen years ago) link

haha

it's instructions like this which i guess explain the continuing popularity of all-apple systems:

"MAKE SURE TO SET THE JUMPER CORRECTLY. CABLE SELECT WILL NOT WORK PROPERLY."

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 April 2008 11:40 (sixteen years ago) link

There's also the fact that you cannot safely apply updates. There's no telling which one will render yr PC unbootable.

libcrypt, Monday, 28 April 2008 13:48 (sixteen years ago) link

Was about to get a Macbook Pro, but a Dell will be thousands less for a superior machine. And it's not a fucking Mac.

S-, Monday, 28 April 2008 14:28 (sixteen years ago) link

ya, i wish apple would make a computer that wasn't a fucking mac already

s1ocki, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:19 (sixteen years ago) link

thousands less would = free. i haven't used a pc laptop for a while but after using one this weekend i'd have to say i'd be loathed to get one even if they were "thousands less".

jed_, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:30 (sixteen years ago) link

is it loathe or loathed?

jed_, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

not getting the overpriced thing, go check out some vaios if you want a corporation shitting in your wallet

DG, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:34 (sixteen years ago) link

loathe

or "loth"?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 28 April 2008 15:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I think loth.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:01 (sixteen years ago) link

If you mean reluctant, it's "loath." Not loathe, which is how I see it spelled 90% of the time.

Rock Hardy, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Apple laptops are quite expensive. I might get an Acer.

jel --, Monday, 28 April 2008 16:54 (sixteen years ago) link

Was about to get a Macbook Pro, but a Dell will be thousands less for a superior machine.

superior how? it depends on what you want your machine for. if you need a machine for doing basic word processing, internet surfing, and some business applications, by all means buy a dell. if you want to do any web development or multimedia anything, get a mac. this has been true for years and continues to be true.

akm, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:11 (sixteen years ago) link

Dells have no resale value

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

i require a superior machine to match my superior attitude

moonship journey to baja, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:34 (sixteen years ago) link

superior how? it depends on what you want your machine for. if you need a machine for doing basic word processing, internet surfing, and some business applications, by all means buy a dell. if you want to do any web development or multimedia anything, get a mac. this has been true for years and continues to be true.

-- akm, Monday, April 28, 2008 12:11 PM (23 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Why is that? I have asked this question a few times and never got a decent response. I think the people I've asked either didn't know how to explain, or really did not know.

Jesse, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:36 (sixteen years ago) link

It seems to be the only reason to buy one is if you are a designer or something and absolutely require mac os.

I wonder how long people will continue to believe this total myth?

I'm waiting for blu-ray, hope they roll it out to the entire line as I'd love a smaller black mac book.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 28 April 2008 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

better for web development because of the unix backend and default php and apache installations (putting these things on windows is a pain in the ass and will invariably have platform differences from any production box you're going to migrate your code to great than the differences w/ the Mac *nix version); better for multimedia because the machines just seem faster and better able to handle it (this may not be true under the latest OS release? I think I heard there were many problems with photoshop, for instance, I think because it wasn't written to take full advantage of leopard or something); you also can use things like Final Cut and all the other hokier built into the OS things like Imovie and stuff which aren't there for windows

akm, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:05 (sixteen years ago) link

if you really want to spend like £300 on a laptop get an ibook off ebay, they're still good, don't get some celeron piece of shit

DG, Monday, 28 April 2008 18:23 (sixteen years ago) link

xpost, development sure, but everyone still thinks Macs are superior for design which just isn't true. They're more pleasant to use in general, but the ability to run Final Cut is their only real "design" advantage. As for this: "better for multimedia because the machines just seem faster and better able to handle it", I just don't think you're going to see a huge difference on similarly spec'd mac or pc machines.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 28 April 2008 19:17 (sixteen years ago) link

I would never ever ever recommend someone to buy a non-Intel Mac now..

As for this: "better for multimedia because the machines just seem faster and better able to handle it", I just don't think you're going to see a huge difference on similarly spec'd mac or pc machines.

-- Spencer Chow, Monday, April 28, 2008 3:17 PM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Link

Quartz.

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Monday, 28 April 2008 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

So Quartz helps with more than just the OS interface? I still don't see a huge difference on similarly spec'd machines running typical photoshop stuff etc. The price difference is much less now though so I'm largely moving to Mac.

Spencer Chow, Monday, 28 April 2008 19:36 (sixteen years ago) link

unless you need to use microsoft-specific office and communication apps for business purposes, I still rate the lower risk profile of OS X for anything. I don't want to ever have to deal with rebuilding my system from a backup just because I forgot to patch Flash and went to a website which is perfectly legimitate 363 days out of the year but happens to have been pwnt by one of the automated sql injectors running around lately. Never having to blow a whole weekend pulling teeth to fix my home jukebox is worth the $$$, to me

El Tomboto, Monday, 28 April 2008 19:41 (sixteen years ago) link


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