Crusader Kings and games of that ilk

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(ck2, i should say)

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:35 (one year ago) link

I have given up on paradox games bc the UI is just so horrible I never really get to grips with the underlying mechanics and just feel like I'm drifting through games, which is not as pleasant as it sounds ime

ogmor, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:19 (one year ago) link

paradox games are def something where you shouldn't bother unless you have a friend to onboard you

ciderpress, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:25 (one year ago) link

I tried Crusader Kings II and nope, it's impenetrable. I'd rather read about it than actually play. I read a great Dwarf Fortress guide once, I would never consider actually playing Dwarf Fortress.

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:47 (one year ago) link

I'm in the same position -- I think part of my problem was a lot of the tutorials people recommend are based on a map that got modified in an update, so one can't follow the play through in the same way. I kept sitting there thinking, "Is something supposed to be happening now?" after taking actions, without knowing if it was my ignorance or just the game. At this point I am resigned to amusing myself with screenshots people post to the reddit.

blatherskite, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:52 (one year ago) link

i'm not sure if this is the video series i watched when i first played but i think it is and it really helped (and if it isn't maybe it's still good - i think watching youtube vids learning about it is probably the best way)

Mordy, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:54 (one year ago) link

should have some time this weekend to dive in with that video, thank you!

global tetrahedron, Thursday, 10 October 2019 22:28 (one year ago) link

I 'got it' after watching some youtube vids.

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Saturday, 12 October 2019 17:50 (one year ago) link

don't we have a Paradox thread? couldn't find it.

anyway: CRUSADER KINGS III!!!111

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Saturday, 19 October 2019 15:02 (one year ago) link

paradox games are pretty rough. I probably have 2000 hours combined in eu3/eu4, ck2, and victoria2. I got imperator on sale this weekend and I have no idea what I'm doing.

the only thing I can recommend to help with the learning curve is watching some youtube lets play videos to get a sense of whats going on then a lot of trial and error. ck2 is rough because all the laws in the various reals are super confusing to keep straight and you can ruin your game pretty easily if you don't know whats going on. also start a game in ireland in 1066. it's not called tutorial island for nothing.

officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Tuesday, 22 October 2019 23:42 (one year ago) link

ten months pass...

the latest in the game series that really needs to change its name came out today. about 9 minutes ago, in fact.


word on the street seems to be good, for this new one, but also these days the game won't really be complete until all the DLC and patches and game-balancing is complete, sometime in the mid-2020s

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:10 (two months ago) link

i'll report back later this evening (possibly at 3:30 am, as a ruined person). i think most people are especially interested in changes to the learning curve, quality of life things, changes to the UI and menu, etc. Early reports are that it's much easier to figure out what is going on, this time around.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:12 (two months ago) link

i heard there's a functional tooltip thing this time around

was psyched for this til i found out my crappy macbook is short on RAM

adam, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:14 (two months ago) link

this is more of an aspirational goal, but eventually i'd like to attempt a campaign where i invent my own dumb religion, convert everyone, and then run over the holy roman empire and ban christianity

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:14 (two months ago) link

xp ruh roh - macbook may be straining too. i have the RAM (16GB, compared to 12GB minimum), but not the video card (i have a NVIDIA GeForce GT 750M 2GB, compared to the "AMD® Radeon™ PRO 560 (4 GB)" minimum)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 1 September 2020 17:16 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

ck3 is on game pass so i hesitantly gave it a shot, this video helped me feel less intimidated, and i really took my time with the tutorial as well (which is actually, well, a functioning tutorial, unlike past installations). and the enhanced tooltips and help features really help as well. optimistically i would say i understand about a third of what is going on, but i know enough to have a good time. picked a random yuighur realm, fairly powerful so i can ease into the mechanics while not having to worry about too many threats. had my oafish heir meet a sad end on a hunting trip, trying to figure out how to get rid of an obnoxious counsiloor who keeps hitting on my wife, and my current heir is on his way to being a hotheaded schemer, so looking forward to playing as him as well. curious to see what happens when it comes time for the transfer of power- i guess even very experienced players can get caught by surprise by arcane title and succession laws

anyway, this video is quite well done, and there are 8 follow ups that go into further detail on specific topics

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:41 (two months ago) link

oh, and two of my sons were actually fathered by my spymaster

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 27 September 2020 15:52 (two months ago) link

court drama!

i haven't played much since it came out, as my gaming time has been swallowed up by a divinity original sin 2 four-player co-op campaign, along with Hades. but of the handful of times i've invested serious time in a CK campaign, it's always been a relatively boring/safe location, like the pre-Ireland with the Murchads or pre-Spain, Castile and Leon stuff - basically the ones everyone recommends for newcomers.

what is it like to play as a yuighur realm? does it play similarly to playing in a western european scenario?

Karl Malone, Sunday, 27 September 2020 16:25 (two months ago) link

it's either a clan or tribal government, can't remember which, which limits your ability for adjusting various succession laws. this is the furthest i've ever gotten into the game so it doesn't make much difference to me. if anything it simplifies things

global tetrahedron, Sunday, 27 September 2020 17:39 (two months ago) link

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