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i would maybe like to have this conversation. 77 perhaps?

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/apple-launches-house-studio-band-brothers-pacific-follow-up-1246746

Apple is ready for takeoff. The tech giant has handed out a nine-episode order for Masters of the Air, the follow-up drama to HBO's limited series Band of Brothers and The Pacific. Additionally, Apple is officially launching its own internal studio, making the series the first that it will own in-house. Apple's Worldwide Video heads Zack Van Amburg and Jamie Erlicht will also oversee the unnamed studio in a move that brings them back to their roots as head of Sony Pictures TV.

Sources say HBO released the series — focused on historian Donald L. Miller's nonfiction book Masters of the Air: America’s Bomber Boys Who Fought the Air War Against Nazi Germany — ages ago and before WarnerMedia became its new corporate parent. The decision, sources say, was based on the price tag for the series, which is said to clock in at an estimated $250 million

Scrolled through the gigantic twitter thread of all the content Disney + is going to have. So much shite, it's kinda unbelievable. And correct me if I'm wrong, but the only new exclusives ready for launch will be a Lady and the Tramp remake and the Star Wars show The Mandalorian, right?

I'd probably pay a monthly fee just for Frozen if I had kids, have to be cheaper than a babysitter, but I'm surprised at how bad it seemed. I mean, it has Star Wars and Marvel, it has popular 'adult' stuff, but hasn't everyone already seen those? It seemed really sparse apart from that.

p sure this is mostly aimed at parents

esp w/ all the old TV shows. price of this plus another streaming service for grownups is wayyyyy cheaper than getting cable just to have nickelodeon and/or the disney channel, in terms of things the kids might beg and scream for.

Yeah. it's probably a bargain for parents, really. Also, once I got to the early nineties I got so many Proustian flashbacks. So many films I remember from ads in the Donald Duck magazine.

Everyone has seen all the Star Wars and Marvel movies but people also watch that shit over and over and over.

the latter part is more accurate than the first

XP ^^Yeah, and as new viewers come along it'll be handy to have all of it in one place in the post-physical media world.

I saw somewhere that Adult Swim's syndication deal for Bob's Burgers is ending soon so Disney can have the exclusive on it, and maybe all the MacFarlane shows too. Simpsons I believe has already been announced to be part of the service.

adults who watch the same movie 10 times are like an alien species to me

You can watch all Star Wars and Marvel movies 10 times, and that's still just half a year of movie watching. Then what do you do? I just have to say, scrolling through all of it, it looked a lot less impressive than I'd thought.

30 Seasons of The Simpsons. (Only maybe 1/3rd of which is watchable, but still...)

Watch one Marvel/SW movie a week and you've covered half the year. Not a ton of people who are going to have D+ as their only streaming service.

Also don't underestimate millennial nostalgia for not just Disney animation, but also live action stuff like Blank Check, Mighty Ducks, and the Lohan movies--not to mention all those Disney TV shows.

If a family member signs up I will 100% borrow their login to watch Darkwing Duck & Duck Tales.

Those shows were such a big part of my childhood! Just seeing them on the twitter thread made me flash back to being six years old and watching tv friday night after soccer practice. But I made it through four episodes of the new version of Ducktails, and I kinda can't imagine going back to watch the old stuff. I'm not sure it works the same way 'Friends' does. I could very well be wrong.

In a few years this thread is going to be like when I asked what 'GPRS connectivity' was, in our old mobile phone thread

In the UK I have:

- Freeview HD (over-the-air broadcasting, comparable to basic cable, approx 50 channels, all the main ones) - £0
- iPlayer (BBC on-demand, comparable to Netflix but just for BBC content) - £0, no ads
- All4 (Channel 4) - £0, zillions of ads
- My5 (Channel 5) - £0, zillions of ads
- iTVPlayer (iTV) - £0, zillions of ads
- Plex

All thru the PS4.

Technically you need a tv licence for iplayer and freeview which would be £150 a year (I know people flout this, I would too in the days of “detection vans” but I get more paranoid the more snoopy and authoritarian-leaning everything is)

Speaking of, if we’re going on that direction it maybe couldn’t hurt to put every non-parent who’s psyched to get this Disney thing on some kind of watchlist

ah wins yes that’s true! i pay the license fee. so about £12/month for all that.

Same as Tracer (dumb TV w/Freeview, smart Blu-ray player w/apps, £13/month UK TV licence) plus:

NowTV (£8.99/mo for Entertainment Pass; got this summer '17 for Twin Peaks, had plans to watch all the Sky Atlantic/Arts content, never did... kept paying for nothing until Chernobyl; worse than that, they sent me a free HD dongle for the TV (laptop streaming is 1280x720) and it never turned up)
Netflix (£8.99/mo for two-screen HD)
Amazon Prime (£6.58/mo, paid yearly; hopelessly underused, aside from Mr Robot and the shopping benefits, until this year's ATP tennis coverage)
Curzon Home Cinema (on demand; haven't actually rented anything in months)

My 5yo Samsung box has scads of apps I've never opened, all of which would need subscriptions. I'm guessing this hardware just won't support some of the newer services, even if I wanted them.

I share the above logins with my ex, and I think she gets a bit more out of it.

disney + is going to have a ton of original content. yes, a lot of it is Marvel, but that's the draw for many.

yeah i think for a lot of these kind of fans the calculation actually will be as simple as "less than $10 to watch The Mandalorian, sure" and then once that's done there'll be something else to keep them on.

I think I can't rewatch a movie until at least 10 years pass. I also don't know how adult people do it.

D+ will pay for itself if somehow the original Star Wars trilogy was the theatrical cuts, but I'm imagining we'd have heard that by now if it was to be the case.

Re: The Mandalorian: That is probably true, that a lot of subscribers will be satisfied by that, but it's something I find really interesting. Because we've already seen a bunch of these kind of brand-extension tv shows, from 'Clone Wars' to the Defender-verse, and they haven't really been that succesful. It's a really big bet on what is an unknown strategy. If The Mandalorian turns out to be another Inhumans, what then? Tv shows go wrong all the time, they are really hard to make.

I'm not betting against Disney. I'm just saying I'm really interested in seeing how this shakes out.

The Star Wars cartoons are pretty well received among fans and after an initial misstep on Disney’s part they seem to get what people want out of them now.

Well, two out of three of the cartoons, at least. The currently running one is aimed at younger viewers and I haven’t polled friends to see if their smaller kids are into it

I'm not saying they're not succesful at all, but they aren't the phenomenon The Mandalorian kinda needs to be.

it depends what it 'needs to be.' with a streaming service all you want is for people to not cancel their subscriptions, and hopefully buy Mandalorian DVDs, t-shirts, and toys down the line.

That's an interesting facet of these services, the less you actually use it the more profitable it becomes. Creates some weird incentives.

Why would anyone buy a dvd of a show that is available on streaming?

I don't think that's true, Moodles, from what I read it seems that streaming services depend on content content content to make you watch as much as possible, to again give them more and more information about your viewing habits, which they can then turn into content content content. What you are describing is kinda the old cable paradigm, where you really only needed one Mad Men to get viewers into pressuring cable companies into keeping your channel in the bundle

Is that really true though? If I pay every month and watch nothing, that's less bandwidth cost for them.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/08/business/media/hbo-att-merger.html

“We need hours a day,” Mr. Stankey said, referring to the time viewers spend watching HBO programs. “It’s not hours a week, and it’s not hours a month. We need hours a day. You are competing with devices that sit in people’s hands that capture their attention every 15 minutes.”
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Continuing the theme, he added: “I want more hours of engagement. Why are more hours of engagement important? Because you get more data and information about a customer that then allows you to do things like monetize through alternate models of advertising as well as subscriptions, which I think is very important to play in tomorrow’s world.”

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Disney plus will be operating on a different model I assume. I mean I will probably have to subscribe because my son is nearly as old as I was the first time I saw Star Wars, and then the need for rewatching and the other Disney/Marvel content will keep us around. New stuff is a perk, but not really the selling point.

Why would anyone buy a dvd of a show that is available on streaming?

Extras, better picture quality, collectablity, viewable when internet is down.

Also viewable when the service shutters, corporate conglomerations shift alliances, etc etc etc

there are still a bunch of people with horrible or metered internet bandwidth in the US

also, buying a series when it completes, especially if you’re planning on rewatching it over time, might be cheaper than paying for a streaming service for years

Some shows, like The Office, Friends, Mad Men, and Sopranos are dirt cheap used too.

corporations obviously hate the used disc market, but from a consumer standpoint it’s excellent

I don't know why anyone would keep a continuous subscription to any of these, unless they were a parent using Disney to babysit. I have a list of all the Netflix shows that piqued my interest in the last 3 years, I think I could binge them all in 2 months.

also i mean we're talking about star wars fans, can anyone be MORE relied upon to buy the thing just for the sake of gazing at it on the shelf next to the other matching things?

Yeah, it's kind of like hearing the Dylan Bootleg Series people saying they're worried about how much longer physical media viability will last without considering folks willing to buy Dylan on CD are among the last sure things in the business.

now picturing what the fancy metal box of the mandalorian would look like on my shelf

Theres also just a lot of good shows that are not available on streaming and likely never will be

you'll get your metalorian soon enough no doubt

I don't know why anyone would keep a continuous subscription to any of these, unless they were a parent using Disney to babysit. I have a list of all the Netflix shows that piqued my interest in the last 3 years, I think I could binge them all in 2 months.

Try being a parent and thus never having any time to binge anything. One or two episodes every day or so is an achievement.

^^ otm and so true. I mean, even the two seasons of Barry is taking us two weeks to get through in what little time we have left at the end of the day.

My basic broadband package is *just* good enough to stream one thing in HD; if the kids upstairs are YouTubing or my gf is trying to watch something on her tablet, forget it. The collapse into pixel hell of sub-SD during movies is a pain; I'd rather it just sat there for five minutes after you hit PLAY and before the opening credits and just built up a solid buffer. Snack gathering time.

https://www.cnet.com/news/hbo-max-price-15-dollars-release-date-launch-may-us-shows-movies-podcast/