A PS4 Thread: Because You Had to Play "Knack"

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https://www.wired.com/story/exclusive-playstation-5/

While a number of studios already had their PS5 devkits, the controller prototypes began rolling out much more recently, and no one is ready to name specific titles they're developing for the PS5. "We're working on a big one right now," says Marco Thrush, president of Bluepoint Games, which most recently worked on last year's PS4 remake of Shadow of the Colossus. "I'll let you figure out the rest."

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

KNACK 3

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link

Rumor is Demons Souls Remastered

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:18 (four years ago) link

Extremely clunky, laggy, etc. The writing is worse than ever. It's trying to be a Destiny clone and not doing a good job of it. Etc.

Ehhh, it's running pretty well now and the middle of the game is pretty fun so far.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link

Plague Tale on sale for $30 till the end of the month. I'm not terribly impressed with it so far.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

the rats of us

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

wonder if bluepoint are working on a silent hill remaster

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 18:44 (four years ago) link

bunch of people seem to think they're doing demons souls for ps5

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

silent hill is konami who haven't shown much interest in making video games in recent years

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

bluepoint remastered metal gear iirc tho

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

(personally i’d love a demon’s souls remaster fwiw)

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

oh i didnt know they did the metal gear ones

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

Initial reactions to Plague Tale were kind of underwhelming, then there was a simmering rally of people saying it's a lot better than people gave it credit for.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

I've decided I want to get a Playstation rather than a Switch, if only cos it means I can turn my TV into a Smart TV and stream movies too.

Went into the shop ready to pay on finance but the woman in there completely put me off. She said I should wait and buy a PS5 or if not get one on Black Friday.

So I shrugged and left the shop.

I'm way confused now. i waited til the new Switch was out and now I'm wondering if the games shop want my money or not

frame casual (dog latin), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

you can probably get like a 40% lower price around black friday, that part is true

PS5 is still a year off and will be significantly pricier than the PS4 at launch and it'll probably be 2022 before the PS4 gets fully phased out for new games, so that one's your call

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

There's no real point getting a PS5 until a year after release (at least) but waiting 5 weeks to Black Friday is probably a good idea as there'll be lots of good bundle deals around

groovypanda, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

Unless you're not gonna play it at all in the next two years, this is the best time (end of generation) to buy a console.

That said I might just give in and get PS5 at launch. I pussyfooted on the Switch and eventually got it, but there was no point in waiting in retrospect. PS5 will probably get better deals the holiday season after year one though, especially if X-whatever launches as well.

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 22:09 (four years ago) link

Waiting on price drops for Nintendo is, uniquely, a sucker's game, isn't it? Still makes sense to wait on MS/Sony since they follow saner (less insane?) pricing.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

higher entry point, but on the other hand if you buy physical you can sell it a month later for roughly the same price unlike yr typical AAA games which quickly drop in price these days

( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

MS/Sony are by and large competition for each other, not Nintendo, is what's going on there.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:01 (four years ago) link

Nintendo has basically settled for being the secondary/tertiary home system, though, which makes it weirder that their prices rarely go down. But yeah, true - PS5 prices will surely go down faster. And who knows, maybe they'll pump out a hardware revision within a year.

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

Then again, maybe I'm wrong and the Switch has a higher base than PS4? I dunno

Nhex, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

I mean, they haven't outsold the PS4, but the PS4 has a head start:

Here is an update to the cumulative global console shipment chart.
The chart is launch aligned.

Key points:
- PS4 surpasses 100m, faster than PS2 and Wii
- Switch reaches 36.87m, tracking inline with PS4 pic.twitter.com/o28T7l9f9j

— Daniel Ahmad (@ZhugeEX) July 30, 2019

Or does secondary/tertiary refer to some headology about systems within the same home?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:14 (four years ago) link

Switch only has a higher base than PS4 in japan, everywhere else there's about half as many (but it's been out for half as long)

nintendo's game prices don't go down because no one else competes with them meaningfully in the style of games they make

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

I've heard that Nintendo's price inflexibility also has to do with the fact that they're still using cartridges, where the costs are still higher compared to optical discs. Dunno how much water that holds though!

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:20 (four years ago) link

it's true that carts cost more to produce but i don't think it's the reason given that their last 3 consoles used discs and they weren't any more flexible with their pricing for those

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

i guess last 2 since gamecube wasn't standard discs

ciderpress, Tuesday, 15 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

What I don't get is the third-party stuff ported over to Switch at a huge premium. Doom, for example, is currently $60 on Switch. It's currently $9.99 on PS4.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:16 (four years ago) link

paying for the portability

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link

For sure, to some extent. But why does it have to be at the Switch premium price default of $60? They could sell it for $50 or $40 or $30 or lower, and it'd still be several times the PS4 price.

Anyway, I do have it on Switch, but I just bought it and Alien for PS4, because cheap.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link

https://www.amazon.com/Control-PlayStation-4/dp/B07DPJ3LZQ/

Control under $40 with the coupon! Just picked it up because I doubt it's going to get much cheaper on Black Friday.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link

nice!

mh, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

i've never even heard of this game but it looks interesting - are the reviews good??

Mordy, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link

Yes, it's been well reviewed for its gameplay and story, though it's also pretty taxing on consoles.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link

has that been fixed with patches for the ps4? i'd love to try it but i'm still a bit wary.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link

That's what I've read, yes, and partly why I pulled the trigger so soon after release!

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

underneath the wackadoo sub-nolanisms there’s a pretty pedestrian game imo. the creeping dread it induces is so effective and well realised though it’s almost worth it.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link

besides the setting and vibe, which are top notch imo, i liked the gameplay a lot. it's not particularly innovative but it's fun, and there's a sequence toward the end that immediately entered Adam's Good Level Hall of Fame alongside such luminaries as doom E1M2, sniper level in COD4, etc.

adam, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

wackadoo sub-nolanisms sounds right up my alley don't @ me.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

sounds interesting enough and i haven't bought myself a new game in a while (well, i did get dicey dungeons but that was $15) so i'm pulling the trigger

Mordy, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

I've been pretty excited about Control, since it was so well received, but I've slotted it in with Resident Evil 2 and Plague Tale under "waiting for an even bigger price drop." The great thing about PS4 (tying this all together) is that since you know the price *will* drop significantly over a year or so, you can comfortably put off buying it until later and focus on the games you already have while you wait. Big Switch games, that shit never goes on sale, so (imo) it's pretty easy to just shrug off new releases entirely unless they seem really, really special. Or, for that matter, punt indefinitely, since it's not like you'll be missing out on some special deal. For example, I'm excited about Luigi's Mansion 3, which looks gorgeous, but I'm in no hurry to shell out for it when I can (and did) recently get four AAA PS4 games for around half the price of a single Nintendo game. So it goes.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

hi everyone. so I'm an official member of this thread now.
bought mine with Witcher, Dead Souls, Red Dead II and Crash Bandicoot Racing (for when I have people over)

One quick noob question: Can I charge two controllers at a time using the twin USB ports? Doesn't seem like I can

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 22:44 (four years ago) link

What happened to waiting for BF??

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 23:07 (four years ago) link

shoulda waited for the ps6 tbh

adam, Thursday, 17 October 2019 00:04 (four years ago) link

That's what they're calling the new XBox iirc.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Thursday, 17 October 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

So people are going nuts for Outer Wilds, right?

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 20 October 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link

Thanks again for the heads-up on the Control deal, Leee! I've been playing it this weekend and it's fun.

There are some lower framerate moments on my non-Pro PS4, but it's reasonable. Tracer's right that it's relatively light in the action dynamics/plot but I feel like that's a bonus. Just enough weirdness/variation to make it fun, and enough dialogue to move things along.

Enough to tide me over until Death Stranding, which inevitably will have hours of exposition and grimacing

mh, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:03 (four years ago) link

hours of pissing

ciderpress, Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link

Np my! (My order hasn't even shipped yet.)

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Sunday, 20 October 2019 18:49 (four years ago) link

not surprised by slowdowns because it’s completely insane how much stuff is flying through the air in some scenes!

mh, Sunday, 20 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link


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