Robert announces three new vaporware albums to put on your imaginary shelf alongside 4:14 Scream, 4:26 Dream, Reflections, Live In Paris, his 1990 solo album, his 2001 solo album, the Wish deluxe reissue...
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link
The correct approach to this news.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link
that link, when clicked by me at this point in time, does nothing except load endlessly into nothing.
what's the news?
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
Robert Smith is leading an Antarctic expedition
― imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
nice; surely on the hunt to recapture some of that chilly goth atmosphere for the forthcoming dark album.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
worth clicking again to see how Jason has somehow become the oldest member of The Cure
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:49 (four years ago) link
I’m seeing them in Mexico City tonight!
The weather had been all nice and sunny for the past 4 days and today it has been cold and cloudy with a little bit of rain. Feels like it was on purpose.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
ahh man! definitely looking forward to your review if you feel so compelled.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
Of course! Cure has a passionate fanbase in Mexico, I’m very excited to see them here.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link
Enjoy Moka! If their Glasto show is anything to go by, you'll have a splendid time.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
Yeah that link doesn't work for me either. What is it?
― Duke, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
he said that they're preparing three albums. I saw the headline on the book of faces. I take it with a grain of salt.
― akm, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
ahh.
nme coverage.
yeah none of that sounds very promising at all, honestly.
hope i'm wrong and something new comes out and it's actually decent. but uhh. . . probably not.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
Here's a Cure album that never was: my take on what sounds like a could-have-been, maybe was-going-to-be album circa 'Wild Mood Swings' but that focused in the aesthetic and mood with the through-line of string arrangements. Made from a few tracks from WMS and contemporaneous b-sides: 'This Is A Lie':
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGZch5NXkAAbgSb?format=jpg&name=large
https://www.mediafire.com/download/8f97pneclpg72ut
The Cure - 'This Is A Lie' (1996)[The Wild Mood Swings Era Reconsidered]01 - Adonais02 - Jupiter Crash*03 - A Pink Dream04 - Treasure*05 - Home06 - Waiting07 - Dredd Song08 - It Used to Be Me09 - Numb*10 - Ocean11 - Bare*12 - This Is A Lie (Ambient Mix)Total Time: 53:43* From 'Wild Mood Swings'
01 - Adonais02 - Jupiter Crash*03 - A Pink Dream04 - Treasure*05 - Home06 - Waiting07 - Dredd Song08 - It Used to Be Me09 - Numb*10 - Ocean11 - Bare*12 - This Is A Lie (Ambient Mix)
Total Time: 53:43
* From 'Wild Mood Swings'
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 01:06 (four years ago) link
Get rid of Dredd Song and that would be 100% fire
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 02:26 (four years ago) link
Ok, they are incredibly tight live. It feels like listening to the actual album, some songs even sound better than the studio version.
I might be biased because they are two of my favorite Cure songs but “A Forest” and “Close to Me” were great and the band seemed specially lively playing those. Simon even did a small cumbia bass coda at the end of the former following the claps of the audience and Robert was doing some sort of dance and smiling throughout the later. Lovesong was also great and an early highlight in the setlist, they also seemed to be having fun playing Lovecats.
The only song in the whole setlist that they seemed miserable playing was Friday I’m In Love. I thought Just Like Heaven would also sound exhausted but they sounded very at ease with that one.
The second encore was filled with early songs that hadn’t been played in the American festivals they did beforehand this year: Three Imaginary Boys, Grinding Halt, 10:15 Saturday Night, Killing an Arab, Jumping Someone Else’s Train were all played at the end.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 06:45 (four years ago) link
wild mood swings era without 'want' is a bold, wrong move
― imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 11:01 (four years ago) link
I was focused on the string arrangement common thread, when I culled the selections for 'This Is A Lie'. If the synth strings in "Want" were real strings, I'd probably slot it in in lieu of "Dredd Song".
I really think the band could have been thinking of an album like this collection--so many of the tracks even have segue sections that help the tracks flow pretty seamlessly. An odd thing to bother with, for a b-side...
― Soundslike, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:06 (four years ago) link
ahh man moka, you got 'lovecats'!!! sounds like a great night. would love to see them do 'gridning halt' as well. that song is so enduring and catchy!
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link
if i ever see them i demand an hour-long 'watching me fall' followed by 'give me it' and then the curtain falls to booing
― imago, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
would attend this.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
Aw, they didn't play Lovecats when I saw them :(
― Frederik B, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link
It was its tour debut last night iirc.
Here’s the full setlist they played for almost 3 hours:
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/the-cure/2019/foro-sol-mexico-city-mexico-339c4c8d.html
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link
wow, that's a really varied setlist. must have been a total blast.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
RS would never concede to a set this short, they'll only compromise to cut down to two hours for festivals
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link
that is an insane setlist. you must have had a blast Moka!
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 9 October 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link
https://www.instagram.com/p/B3i4ttvHocN/?igshid=12oxiuwbhn496
guys if fucking simon gallup dies, it will seriously be terrible.
i hope i'm reading too deeply into this and he's just fine.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Monday, 14 October 2019 02:42 (four years ago) link
V good new interview tied in with the release of the Anniversary/Cureation sets; it's the second part of a longer interview Kory Grow did with him a few months back:
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/cure-band-robert-smith-interview-40-live-893005/amp/
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 October 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
Also should you be so inclined one of my projects on my Patreon is an album by album series Robert and company -- won't be monthly, maybe every other month or so. First one went live earlier in the week:
https://www.patreon.com/posts/cure-reflections-30754630
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 October 2019 16:32 (four years ago) link
You’ve never been very political. Roger Waters, who played the day before you in Hyde Park, had a lot of anti-Trump messaging. Do you feel artists should be more political nowadays?I don’t think there’s a rule. Some artists are very good at it. It requires a number of different things. One is the music that you make has to reinforce where you’re going with what you’re saying. And from a young age, I’ve always held what could be considered a socialist viewpoint on the world. That’s why I wail against inequality. What’s wrong with the world is essentially inequality. But it isn’t reflected in what I want the Cure to be. I wanted the Cure to be something that I could escape into. For me, it was an escape from the world. Like when I was doing the “Love Cats” video, and I’m there caressing kittens, I can’t turn around and say, “By the way, I’ll tell you what’s wrong with the world.” It’s beyond absurd. Although now cuddling kittens would probably be a political statement in the state we’re in.But you are political.Behind the scenes, the Cure has always been politically active but usually pretty anonymously. It suits the way the band works, and everyone is much more comfortable with that rather than me being overt. They despair sometimes when I’ve had a few beers and I’ve done shows and I start spouting off. They’re like, “Please, don’t start.” Because once I start, it’s very hard to stop. I think it’s a great thing to be able to get up in front of people and convince people of what’s right and what’s wrong, although that depends on who you think is right and who is wrong.
But you are political.Behind the scenes, the Cure has always been politically active but usually pretty anonymously. It suits the way the band works, and everyone is much more comfortable with that rather than me being overt. They despair sometimes when I’ve had a few beers and I’ve done shows and I start spouting off. They’re like, “Please, don’t start.” Because once I start, it’s very hard to stop. I think it’s a great thing to be able to get up in front of people and convince people of what’s right and what’s wrong, although that depends on who you think is right and who is wrong.
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
I legit cheered when I read this. (Also this bolsters my argument for why "Us or Them" is so terrible; Robert is not good at putting explicit political expression into songs, not in the way he is at doing relationship imagery and emotional states.)
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
Definitely the most clear I think I've read on him on these points. Sign of a good interviewer at work too (though for years I've always felt people could be clearer in questions about the difference between being political and being politicized, but that's another subject).
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 18 October 2019 16:44 (four years ago) link
"Director's Cut" videos from the final Disintegration night at the Sydney Opera House back in May now on youtube in 4K, with a vaporwave tease from Robert:
“Our five shows at the Sydney Opera House in May 2019 - celebrating the 30th anniversary of the 1989 album Disintegration - are among the most memorable we have ever played - indeed, our entire Sydney trip was like a wonderful dream... I am so happy the final night of the run was captured in such expressive style by our longtime friend and director Nick Wickham - the release of the whole concert can’t be too far away… ”
Pictures Of You
Plainsong
Disintegration
― insecurity bear (sic), Friday, 20 December 2019 10:04 (four years ago) link
Rank it next to the new album release
― licorice oratorio (baaderonixx), Friday, 20 December 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link
Thx sic
best album ever obv
― I have not yet begun to fart (rip van wanko), Friday, 20 December 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link
Strictly Kev of DJ Food interviewing Andy Vella, mainly about his work for Fiction's dance sub-label Desire
― Fantastic. Great move. Well done (sic), Monday, 17 February 2020 09:12 (four years ago) link
Lol is doing a tweet-along thing dedicated to Seventeen Seconds this evening, apparently.
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 26 September 2020 11:59 (three years ago) link
Just watched Rick Beato's "what makes this song great?" analysis of Just Like Heaven on YouTube. He highlighted Robert Smith's vocal harmonies. I've been listening to this song for over 30 years and I'm ashamed to say I've never noticed them. Listening to it now, I know I'll never un-hear them.
― Duke, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:54 (three years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPNHwwXh3Ks
― Duke, Thursday, 29 October 2020 21:57 (three years ago) link
Man thanks for the reminder that we've got the Royal Albert Hall thing this weekend.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:31 (three years ago) link
What's that? Happy to be unintentionally of service!
― Duke, Thursday, 29 October 2020 22:35 (three years ago) link
Thread with details:
Show me! Show me! Show me Halloween! It is only 3 days until the exclusive one-off live stream of The Cure’s 2014 Royal Albert Hall performance for Teenage Cancer Trust. pic.twitter.com/RIKTYhmdgZ— The Cure (@thecure) October 28, 2020
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 October 2020 23:57 (three years ago) link
$7.15 total and that's for three chances to watch, so why not?
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 29 October 2020 23:58 (three years ago) link
Yeah this is pretty great and then some. Two more chances to watch it later today!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 20:14 (three years ago) link
they were the best in the 80s as they lost me after mixed up and they were good before the 80s too!
― xzanfar, Saturday, 31 October 2020 20:55 (three years ago) link
Much thanks to Ned Ragget for helping me get sorted on this awesome broadcast tonight!
― BlackIronPrison, Saturday, 31 October 2020 22:48 (three years ago) link
Do what I can!
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 31 October 2020 22:55 (three years ago) link
Is there a thread for Rick Beato? His videos have been on rotation during quarantine, love how he discusses more advanced music theory than similar channels yet makes it simple enough and explains in detail for non-musicians to understand.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:06 (three years ago) link
I love his videos of him and his young lad, Dylan, who has perfect pitch and can sing and name the individual notes of crazy, atonal 9-note clusters, it's super entertaining.
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link
I like Beato's videos when he's talking about specific songs and how they work.
But when he strays from that into what is/isn't good music, he can be a real dud rockist. He favors blues-based music and chops-based music, which is not surprising from someone of his age and temperament. But the range is somewhat narrow. Even when he praises something outside the narrow canon, he does so using a framework that is based on that canon.
― bourbon and branch davidian (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 1 November 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link