pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Louvre on the songs list and no Green Light is just... who is this for?

Totally! “Green Light” is the jam

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:10 (four years ago) link

This album list is so disagreeable to me... they didn’t even pick the right Parquet Courts, lol

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:11 (four years ago) link

the only good parquet courts album is the one with 'borrowed time' on it, whatever that was called

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link

That’s the one.

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:15 (four years ago) link

Green Light is not only the jam, it was also the lead single.. oh but let's have this middling deep cut instead anyways because "down the back, but who cares, still the Louvre" oh remember that, so cute, or wtf

I hope these guys never make it to the Louvre! I'm gonna go now, I said I didn't care about Pitchfork. oh just some of these decisions oh my

maffew12, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

Is Anti in there because it has a Tame Impala song and they’re less ashamed to love him via Rihanna?

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

Because that album sucks.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

dawn richard did a song called 'the louvre' a few months earlier that was about 47384773x better, why don't we talk about that instead

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

they should've done top 50 'singles', top 50 deep cuts, top 50 tame impala related all separately

nashwan, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

I bet if they did, it would be another song off Melodrama entirely. I just bet. oh good day.

maffew12, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

honestly, if anything their tame impala enthusiasm has cooled a bit. currents got like a 9.3, right?

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:26 (four years ago) link

dawn richard did a song called 'the louvre' a few months earlier that was about 47384773x better, why don't we talk about that instead

― imago, Tuesday, October 8, 2019

fuck you, my Louvre ain't your Louvre

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:27 (four years ago) link

wish i could post today but i have a ginormous pile of grading and a lecture to prepare before band practice. turning on my app-blocker but looking forward to catching up on this thread tomorrow! 😘

flopson, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

or, as Whitney sang, my louvre is your louvre

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:29 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_P2IY8gxZw

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

Tame Impala - Lonerism was in their top 10 (#7 iirc) in that mid-decade best of list they made and now it’s all the way down in #130. They definitely cooled down on their love for him or got ashamed of hyping him somewhere in the past couple of years.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

Tame Impala is a good band

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

First two albums were alright, everything else is an eldritch horror.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:45 (four years ago) link

Is Anti in there because it has a Tame Impala song and they’re less ashamed to love him via Rihanna?

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), dinsdag 8 oktober 2019 20:18 bookmarkflaglink

Because that album sucks.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), dinsdag 8 oktober 2019 20:19 bookmarkflaglink

It appears you’re talking about Anti. That album doesn’t suck. At all.

breastcrawl, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:53 (four years ago) link

anti is an amazing album

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:58 (four years ago) link

i am anti people who are anti-anti

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

so say we all but i don't think that's what moka meant

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link

I like Lana's NFR, but...top 20? Come on.

unashamed and trash (Unctious), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link

Not sure if this is the elephant in the room but I don't care: Owen Pallett's absence is criminal.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:23 (four years ago) link

putting something that came out a month ago on a decade-end list is a fun rhetorical move and should be applauded

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link

Trying to read the blurbs and they're just so dreary. Everything is important, everything changed something or other, even if it's the slightest thing (from Angel Olsen: Her sophomore album, Burn Your Fire For No Witness, was the kind of breakthrough that shifted the scene around it. Now the folkier corners of indie rock are filled with auteur singer-songwriters who are trying to be both timeless and out of time, intimate-seeming yet often fleshed out by a smoky full band, angsty like punk and sad like old country. That’s largely her influence. More people mix punk and country, who cares?) and there's nearly no pleasure and no joy.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

lol LBI

I felt “a way” when my 2010 album was the highest-rated new release that year to not be included in P4K’s roundup from that year-- not even an honourable mention-- but I haven’t felt “a way” about being disincluded from any of their lists since then.

i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

I haven’t read the blurbs. What did they say about Syro — “the breakthrough album that shattered our perceptions of Richard D. James, by proving he can be boring?”

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

imo fgti u should drop the new one December 31st

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:51 (four years ago) link

Anti’s comfortably my favourite album of the decade. It was hilarious and baffling reading Lemonade (5 stars, bla bla..) taking all the credit in the same era while Anti seemed to completely baffle people. Same people who’ll be wanging on about its genius come the 10th anniversary I don’t doubt. Aside from a few fellow obsessives on here, I think I read just one review that ‘got it’ and that was on Dazed.

piscesx, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:59 (four years ago) link

I was having drinks with a certain well-known musician and my circle of friends and he loudly stated to the group of them: "The best song on Lemonade is still worse than the worst song on ANTI" and he roundly received catcalls for his controp. I actually can see some validity to that assertion, even it's a silly thing to say.

i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

wow, bold statement by richard marx

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:12 (four years ago) link

lol LBI

I felt “a way” when my 2010 album was the highest-rated new release that year to not be included in P4K’s roundup from that year-- not even an honourable mention-- but I haven’t felt “a way” about being disincluded from any of their lists since then.

― i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 9:47 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's cool! :) You know, we talk about how artists' "stock" has risen or fallen on here, like it's a Wall Street thing: one day you're the hottest flavour, stock rises high, the next you're spat out like chewed out gum and forgotten. I cannot imagine the feeling of dread of ctrl+f'ing their list and not finding yourself, when praise was heaped upon one earlier. Not feeling "a way" about that is thee best though <3

(ps. I'd never call you an actuall elephant, let alone in a room, to your face)
(pps. Your album was - most literally - life changing for me jsyk)

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

the worst song on anti is the best song on anti tbf

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link

The upper reaches of the album are yawnsome in all the expected ways but there's an almost transcendent lameness in that tepid Jamie XX album placing at #25.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

^^ lamest high placing, for sure.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link

A lot of stuff from the first half of the decade appears to have absolutely tanked in critical reputation but perhaps nothing as much as Random Access Memories.

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link

Random Access Memories is and always has been terrible

brigadier pudding (DJP), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

Stats for yers

albums Pitchfork liked less over time, according to their decade list

http://www.brooklynvegan.com/albums-pitchfork-liked-less-over-time-according-to-their-decade-list/?fbclid=IwAR14R6dTFPsZYtdqiuRqe1VkjmcyktyBYDqH_2dwL2SX-FFVt0uG4HTjQ9c

piscesx, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:28 (four years ago) link

i'd be interested in seeing the reverse, too

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

If anything, RAM's dire placing should make the p4k boys shy with embarrassment. Hyped up so high back in the day, now they don't want to know the damn thing.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:29 (four years ago) link

Xxxxpost: before I’m being chased by pitchforks I meant the Tame Impala album Currents sucks, not Anti. But I worded that all wrong.

Before I also get chased by Tame Impala fans, perhaps I’m being harsh, it’s not that terrible an album but I understand how his music fell considerably out of favor by the end of this decade. Almost every magazine stopped trying to pretend to like rock by the end of it.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:35 (four years ago) link

I cannot imagine the feeling of dread of ctrl+f'ing their list and not finding yourself, when praise was heaped upon one earlier

I think you may be overestimating the extent to which artists in 2019 give a shit about Pitchfork lists

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link

lollll voodoo

And @ Paul, you'd be surprised

i could chug a keg of you (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

I'm not. It's being confronted with the absurd "hype u today, drop u tomorrow" ethics of teh p4k that gets to me.

xp

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:38 (four years ago) link

Still think Currents is the most embarrassing review they published this decade: the album reimagines and expands Tame Impala's relationship to album rock—like Loveless or Kid A or Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, it's the result of a supernaturally talented obsessive trying to perfect music while redefining their relationship to album-oriented rock. There's more care and nuance put into the drum filtering on "Let It Happen" than most bands manage in an entire career of recording.

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:48 (four years ago) link

Yeah I was also trying to point out that thing in how ANTI makes it safe for pitchfork to unashamedly like a Tame Impala song in 2019. Pre-conde nast those two albums would and were ranked very differently.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link

xp But does the review say anything about the band’s relationship to “album rock”?

Spry at 78 (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

They made Currents a BNM 9.3 album, a top 10 album in their mid-decade list and 5 years later it’s in the bottom end of their decade list. If they had released this list a year later or even after Tame Impala releases his new record - which I fathom wont be very well received by them - who knows if it would have even made it. They contributed in hyping him and then sort of felt ashamed of it.

Anti, meanwhile, got a 7.7

✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link


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