pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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I hope this wasn't directed at me, Brad.

― jaymc, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 6:39 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

directed at paul ponzi who sucks. you don’t suck

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

I never realised until now how far Ariel Pink had fallen from grace in P4K's eyes. I would've assumed Before Today would at least place. That record is still a damn front to back classic.

triggercut, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

Right now the most surprising inclusion to see on here is Alabama Shakes.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

gorguts robbed

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

probably the biggest surprise for me is The Pinkprint because my memory of the general reception of every Nicki Minaj album has been "this is a bit underwhelming"

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

Also Ariel Pink's "Round and Round" did place at #31 on the tracks list. So he's not completely forgotten.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

Glad to see Malkmus in the top 5

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

Right now the most surprising inclusion to see on here is Alabama Shakes.

― MarkoP, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:46 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

One of my favorite inclusions, tbh. That album is excellent

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

if dj rashad (who was obviously great) was still alive he wouldn't have crashed that top twenty, but his death gives just enough discourse for him to nose in amongst the royals

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

i do not understand any ldr record that is not ultraviolence or honeymoon and i’m still a little baffled that the discourse around the new one insists i should think she’s a good lyricist. she isn’t

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

she is the queen of american folk though *eyes roll out of head*

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

No Culture :(

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

ariel pink's stock has gone way down after how terrible and obnoxious he was around the time of his last album. that album was his best in a long time though, except for him saying tr*nny on it which combined with his other antics make me never want to listen to him again really

its kinda weird that ldr has so instantly gone from critically underrated to overrated to this degree but i like the album well enough that i'm not really bothered

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

I read an essay about it in Frieze. They were pretty enamoured of her wry yet gloomy take on Americana, especially—the writer said—her understanding that Anerica isn’t ending, but already over. From that it seemed like it was more of a Pop Art homage thing tailor made for people who tead Frieze more than it was an album made for music listeners.

However, I haven’t listened to it yet. I will though—I mostly like her work.

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

xp that post was about LDR

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

oh what is with burn your fire for no witness placing quite high but not my woman, which is much much better

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

Going from "Round and Round" as the best song of whatever year to reviewing Miranda Lambert albums counts as a victory for something or other, I must admit.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

oh what is with burn your fire for no witness placing quite high but not my woman, which is much much better

― ufo, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 7:02 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

they did this too early. all mirrors is better than both

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

i hated that frieze piece

maura, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

A lot of writing on visual art is like that ime. Not as flowery, usually, but baring little relationship to the actual work under discussion and more about just metatextual framing

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

for dullards seeking to project their dull ideas about culture, lana dull rey has been a godsend

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

*bearing

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:07 (four years ago) link

Interesting to see who has fallen out of favour since they did the 2010-14 list. As others have pointed out, Ariel Pink and Sun Kil Moon are two big ones. Swans had a couple of albums in last time (including one in the top 20) and are nowhere to be seen. My Bloody Valentine were pretty high and didn't make it. I was expecting more Beach House considering how loyal they've been to them. Real Estate have taken a tumble too. I guess they're well and truly done with James Blake after he recently called them out on Twitter.

The biggest surprise on the whole list for me is just how high Anti is. I like it a lot, but does seems high and I'm still annoyed at the narrative that it was her first great album when Rated R is right there.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:08 (four years ago) link

Whoa mbv didn’t crack the top 200? That seems wild.

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

mbv too noisy

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:09 (four years ago) link

& european

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link

Notorious MBV

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

My Buddy Valentin

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:11 (four years ago) link

No need for more than one European in the top 10, Robyn stands for the entire continent.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:12 (four years ago) link

That was supposed to be an embedded youtube video

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

in another way is incredible yes

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:14 (four years ago) link

My Bloody Dark Twisted Valentine

☮ (peace, man), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

but most of the album is great too

maybe the one benefit of pfork's ludicrous anti-uk/eu bias is the lack of that bafflingly overrated slowdive comeback ;)

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

1 European in the top 20, 2 in the top 25.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

Lol

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

have never understood the love for the mbv s/t but it didn't really carry over much of what i love about loveless at all

the slowdive s/t on the other hand was surprisingly great

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

maybe the one benefit of pfork's ludicrous anti-uk/eu bias is the lack of that bafflingly overrated slowdive comeback ;)

― imago, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 7:15 AM (thirty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

again have some self-consciousness, dude who rides for the ride reunion records

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

i'm just teasing, i know i 'ride' for all sorts of nonsense lol

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:17 (four years ago) link

m b v is the best thing they've ever done.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link

^might agree

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:20 (four years ago) link

Another less surprising omission is the Big Boi album. Seems crazy to think just how popular that album was in 2010 (even winning our very own poll). I doubt we'll see it pop up in many of these lists at all.

Just noticed that they went with Sweetener as their Ariana pick. I'll never get it. It's probably her worst album.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:22 (four years ago) link

i'm just teasing, i know i 'ride' for all sorts of nonsense lol

― imago, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 7:17 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i was teasing back! ;)

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

as i said earlier btw, can we promise to give it a few years before we poll this decade

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link

I think RTJ and ATCQ kinda supplanted Big Boi

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:26 (four years ago) link

I still largely ride for that Big Boi record, but it doesn't seem to have been a particularly influential one in the long run. Oh, and for a sneak peak into how much things have changed between 2010 and 2019, have a look at the thread for it and how much everyone loved the terrible rape joke in one of the skits, and think about how immediately canceled it would get him in 2019.

triggercut, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

so this was the decade when they stopped making jazz records?

fact checking cuz, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

tune-yards' stock is way down it seems

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

Was that the thing that the hepcats used to listen to?

xp

pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

On the other hand, they still seem to care about Wu Lyf.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link


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