pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

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Is Blonde really that good?

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

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pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:17 (four years ago) link

it's a bit less predictable-feeling than the tracks list so i'll take it, there's much more in the way of surprisingly low placements or outright omissions of things that were beloved by them at the time

double cup at #20 is one of the most pleasant surprises yeah

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

Is Blonde really that good?

― treeship., Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:17 AM (thirty-eight seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

no

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link

am I the only one who strongly prefers Pure Heroine to Melodrama?

wild to see Lemonade as Bey's third-highest album.

Evans on Hammond (evol j), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:19 (four years ago) link

189. Miranda Lambert: The Weight of These Wings (2016)

only 188 spots too low

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

oh my fucking god that #1

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

And the write ups are just as much about events in the decade as the songs themselves. Like the songs had been originally experienced in the flux of news, and that’s what’s being commemorated. Kind of grim. Popular music always was in dialogue with the broader zeitgeist, but now it seems like these two things have been collapsed into one another.

― treeship., Tuesday, October 8, 2019 12:14 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Good God this is OTM.

Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:22 (four years ago) link

Wow the Lana album that just came out at number 19.

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:23 (four years ago) link

I loved Channel Orange, but Blonde barely left any impression on me.

jaymc, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:24 (four years ago) link

in a massive, shocking upset, it turns out that the number one album of the decade is...eliminator by zz top.

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link

Nice to see New Amerykah Part Two: Return of the Ankh

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:29 (four years ago) link

I barely recognized any of the songs on this list because I’m a grumpy out-of-touch 37-year-old, so I sampled some of it. Dear millennials or gen z or whatever you call yourselves: your music fucking sucks.

― Mr. Snrub, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 3:45 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

cosign

Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

xxxp But I guess I am less interested in the ~persona~ and ~narrative~ of Frank Ocean than I am in good tunes.

jaymc, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link

what this board needed was two snrubs

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:31 (four years ago) link

there are 5-6 excellent tunes on blonde, but there are also several that are just very very bad (nikes, futura free, all the spoken word interludes)

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:32 (four years ago) link

If you've never carved a flute out of a mammoth bone, I can't take any of your opinions about music seriously.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

also me otm

i think art angels will place above visions

― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Monday, 23 September 2019 20:17 (two weeks ago) link

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

i recently came around on blonde and i think it has a lot of good tunes, it just serves them up on weird thermals or through distorted drumless vortexes or with just some chill guitar shimmering behind it. i need to revisit channel orange, which has never made me feel much of anything but who knows now. two frank albums in the top ten is a bit much but i accept that he won and kaleidoscope dream and blackSUMMERS'night lost or whatever lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:33 (four years ago) link

"nikes" is great. "weed crumbles into glitter.... rain.... glitter" is one of the best moments on the record

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:34 (four years ago) link

i just hate the melody, and the helium makes it worse.

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

frank ocean is muzak

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:35 (four years ago) link

but dawn richard is not on this list at all and i'd rank blackheart over blonde in terms of abstract r&b masterpieces where the songs flow into each other

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

the songs absolutely do not flow into each other on blonde and that's a real problem with it

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:36 (four years ago) link

dawn richard is awesome but a bit too weird for these basics

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:37 (four years ago) link

i def agree that body talk is wildly overrated, its placement here is the "robyn fans sing 'dancing on my own' on subway platform" of decade lists

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

what this board needed was two snrubs

― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:31 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I hope this wasn't directed at me, Brad.

jaymc, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:39 (four years ago) link

I actually thought Miguel and Maxwell would break through in a way impossible to conceive in 2012, but I guess they lack a "narrative."

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:41 (four years ago) link

My post wasn't intended as an indictment of Pitchfork, just maybe a reflection of how I've become a bit alienated from some of the prevailing critical orthodoxy that my tastes once felt more aligned with.

jaymc, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link

But I turned 40 this year, so I get it.

jaymc, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

kaleidoscope dream was on the half-decade list, i'm pretty surprised that it and wildheart both didn't make it this time

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:43 (four years ago) link

I hope this wasn't directed at me, Brad.

― jaymc, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 6:39 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

directed at paul ponzi who sucks. you don’t suck

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:44 (four years ago) link

I never realised until now how far Ariel Pink had fallen from grace in P4K's eyes. I would've assumed Before Today would at least place. That record is still a damn front to back classic.

triggercut, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:45 (four years ago) link

Right now the most surprising inclusion to see on here is Alabama Shakes.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

gorguts robbed

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link

probably the biggest surprise for me is The Pinkprint because my memory of the general reception of every Nicki Minaj album has been "this is a bit underwhelming"

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:48 (four years ago) link

Also Ariel Pink's "Round and Round" did place at #31 on the tracks list. So he's not completely forgotten.

MarkoP, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

Glad to see Malkmus in the top 5

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

Right now the most surprising inclusion to see on here is Alabama Shakes.

― MarkoP, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 8:46 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

One of my favorite inclusions, tbh. That album is excellent

flopsy bird (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:51 (four years ago) link

if dj rashad (who was obviously great) was still alive he wouldn't have crashed that top twenty, but his death gives just enough discourse for him to nose in amongst the royals

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:55 (four years ago) link

i do not understand any ldr record that is not ultraviolence or honeymoon and i’m still a little baffled that the discourse around the new one insists i should think she’s a good lyricist. she isn’t

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

she is the queen of american folk though *eyes roll out of head*

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link

No Culture :(

Frederik B, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:58 (four years ago) link

ariel pink's stock has gone way down after how terrible and obnoxious he was around the time of his last album. that album was his best in a long time though, except for him saying tr*nny on it which combined with his other antics make me never want to listen to him again really

its kinda weird that ldr has so instantly gone from critically underrated to overrated to this degree but i like the album well enough that i'm not really bothered

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

I read an essay about it in Frieze. They were pretty enamoured of her wry yet gloomy take on Americana, especially—the writer said—her understanding that Anerica isn’t ending, but already over. From that it seemed like it was more of a Pop Art homage thing tailor made for people who tead Frieze more than it was an album made for music listeners.

However, I haven’t listened to it yet. I will though—I mostly like her work.

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:01 (four years ago) link

xp that post was about LDR

treeship., Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

oh what is with burn your fire for no witness placing quite high but not my woman, which is much much better

ufo, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:02 (four years ago) link

Going from "Round and Round" as the best song of whatever year to reviewing Miranda Lambert albums counts as a victory for something or other, I must admit.

TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:03 (four years ago) link

oh what is with burn your fire for no witness placing quite high but not my woman, which is much much better

― ufo, Tuesday, October 8, 2019 7:02 AM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

they did this too early. all mirrors is better than both

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link

i hated that frieze piece

maura, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link


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