PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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quick whip merchant i meant!

calzino, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link

Sadiq Khan remains quite popular and a lot of Londoners get protective of him as a result of all the shit that gets thrown at him. I have a feeling that Rory banally kumbayaying every time a teenager gets stabbed is probably going to evoke a backlash as well.


the thing that i find so galling is this supposed nemesis of the extreme, defender of centrism, is going after sadiq khan, about as centrist as you can get, presumably because RS wants to usurp labour in london? utter shit.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

he should join the tories if he feels like that.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:33 (four years ago) link

otm!

calzino, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:34 (four years ago) link

Khan doesn't really have any major achievements to speak of as Mayor but he doesn't have any have any significant fuckups either, and he does have the advantage of having led London through a genuinely traumatic summer in 2017 and responded well to events. Knife crime is a problem but the people who personally blame him for it tend to be Home Counties keyboard Nazis without a vote in any case.

Matt DC, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:38 (four years ago) link

I still remember when Khan used the word "power" about 87 times in a speech when he was elected, specifically to undermine Corbyn and underline how unelectable he was. It was some crude Labour Right internal politicking and I've never liked him since tbh.

calzino, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

Stewart's campaign might be worth it for the lols of watching Shaun Bailey finish below the Green candidate and maybe one of the other plucky independents as well.

Matt DC, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link

surely someone who is a perfect posterboy for not using unnecessary anti-ageing skin products can't finish below the greens!

calzino, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link

> sweet-moderation-heart-of-this-nation

does this phrase exist outside of a billy bragg lyric? (between the wars)

koogs, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

no, he's quoting billy bragg

mark s, Monday, 7 October 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

(but was billy quoting anyone? answer appears to be 'no')

koogs, Monday, 7 October 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link

my local MP boosting the is-it-a-majority-yet-no-not-quite-yet Lib Dem numbers: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/07/former-tory-mp-heidi-allen-joins-liberal-democrats

100% expected this to happen as the only chance she has to keep her seat

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Monday, 7 October 2019 21:21 (four years ago) link

Khan doesn't really have any major achievements to speak of as Mayor

No London Mayor has any major achievements tbf. Apart from Nazi Ken possibly?

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Monday, 7 October 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

my eyes did a ski-jump off the page when Prof D Edgerton described him as "one of the more interesting and intelligent people of the 80's left" or words to that effect in Rise and Fall of the British Nation

calzino, Monday, 7 October 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link

Was reading about Livingstone's bust up with John McDonnell, which I knew nothing about. Johnny Mac had the cunt's cards marked way back then.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Monday, 7 October 2019 22:49 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGTm-LJU0AAURo-?format=jpg&name=medium

lol even a broken clock .. etc

calzino, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 07:08 (four years ago) link

you secretly love the hitchenses!!

imago, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 09:37 (four years ago) link

definitely not! Dead Hitchens was a vile arsewipe and this bumptious tool thinks Blair was a Marxist and marijuana is at the root of all evil, but I still prefer him to Blair.

calzino, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

look there are members of the Nazi party that i prefer to Blair so

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:11 (four years ago) link

at least Speer served his time!

calzino, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:13 (four years ago) link

exackly, also admitted being responsible for slave labour

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:16 (four years ago) link

It's all kicking off this morning btw.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link

The news this morning where No 10 are briefing about a surely invented Merkel phone call (Germany could leave the EU 'no problem' but the U.K. can't because of Northern Ireland, 'Merkel said that the PM should tell Northern Ireland that it must stay in full alignment forever, but that even this would not eliminate customs issues') is weird in that it assumes that no-one reading has the ability to check with other sources.

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

No 10 source on a roll is it

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:30 (four years ago) link

Who to believe on the Merkel call: the Times’ well-respected, pro-Brexit longtime Brussels journalist or a Downing Street that frequently misleads us? It’s a three-pipe problem!

— Stephen Bush (@stephenkb) October 8, 2019

calzino, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

Arlene Foster says that Angela Merkel's comments have revealed the 'real objective of Dublin and the EU'

'The PM's proposals have flushed out Dublin's real intentions Northern Ireland in the EU customs union forever

'We will not accept any such ultimatum or outcome'

I can paraphrase that for you - No Surrender Ya Fenian Bastards.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:32 (four years ago) link

banter heuristic now demands that germany leave the eu with no apparent effort while forcing the uk to remain

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:45 (four years ago) link

Khan

having led London through a genuinely traumatic summer in 2017

What was this about? I'm afraid I can't remember, though I was in London the whole time.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:47 (four years ago) link

Oh - you must mean Grenfell Tower. Yes. I had thought it must be a terrorist attack.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

things continuing to go well I see

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:48 (four years ago) link

xp

The EU to become just the UK, Ireland and former Warsaw Pact territories

Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

see the gov are planning to bury the report on grenfell by releasing it on 30/10

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

I would think that the trouble with Stewart is that he takes far more votes from Cons than from Labour and thus is actually likely to make Khan's reelection easier -- like Ross Perot in 1992.

I really don't see a lot of Labour voters voting for this ex-Con, whereas Cons who don't like Brexit, and Lib Dems, will.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:49 (four years ago) link

Peter Hitchens often says things I agree with - he is generally against foreign military intervention, for instance.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 10:50 (four years ago) link

yes same, and he was the only right wing conservative columnist who was correctly scathing about the causes of the Grenfell trajedy. But I won't get too carried away!

calzino, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:00 (four years ago) link

Poor old Farage has woken from his slumbers and started frantically tweeting as he's realized the Tories have comprehensively outflanked him.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:02 (four years ago) link

bit of strategic ineptitude* that the backstop was cast as a piece of UK compromise. as opposed to the UK diplomatic success and EU compromise that it actually was. means now that BJ is trying to water it down, any pushback from the EU is seen as intransigence on their behalf.

*perhaps genius depending on your bent

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:28 (four years ago) link

can this clown even pass a queen’s speech

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 11:33 (four years ago) link

Pinefox - there were four terrorist attacks in London in 2017. Westminster Bridge, Borough, Finsbury Park and Parsons Green. And then Grenfell on top of that obviously.

Surely Johnson can only pass a Queens Speech with the help of Tory MPs and it depends on how generous they're feeling (and how scared of Corbyn).

Matt DC, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:00 (four years ago) link

Isn't passing a queen's speech also a prerequisite for the session of parliament to start and any further attempt to copper-bottom the Benn bill?

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link

Angela Merkel's demand that Britain leaves Northern Ireland to rot inside the Customs Union is reprehensible and shows the true colours of our supposed "European allies".

Enough of this nonsense, we walk away as an independent, self-governing nation in three weeks' time! 🥳🇬🇧👍

— Leave.EU (@LeaveEUOfficial) October 8, 2019

They're ready

Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link

"kraut" fuck off, is this really what passes for officially branded political discourse in 2019?

and of all the ways Britain has left NI to rot, the Customs Union is... not on the list at all actually?

rargh *bristles*

a passing spacecadet, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:36 (four years ago) link

At least they didn't say two World Wars and one World Cup.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:37 (four years ago) link

BXP should adopt that as their election slogan. they’d well and truly split the tory vote then

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:44 (four years ago) link

they can't be as deranged as this. so they're lying. but to what end?? it can't all be about disaster capitalism can it??

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

It depends on your definition of lying. Did she actually say it? Whats that got to do with anything?

She COULD have said it, she most likely thinks it, and sne probably says it all the time. So we have to wait around for her to say it conveniently within earshot?

Whether she said it on any particular occasion or not ia pernickity and officous in the extreme. Its the underlying truth that matters, not the tangential

anvil, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:03 (four years ago) link

i wish i has your faith tbh xp

to regain his mental focus, he played video-game golf (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:04 (four years ago) link

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

.@BorisJohnson, what’s at stake is not winning some stupid blame game. At stake is the future of Europe and the UK as well as the security and interests of our people. You don’t want a deal, you don’t want an extension, you don’t want to revoke, quo vadis?

— Donald Tusk (@eucopresident) October 8, 2019

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link

That Sienkiewicz reference is A+ given the addressee.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link


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