I probably have "I don't sleep, I dream" as my own #1 or #2 track on this, to me it bridges the band's past and present effortlessly.
― campreverb, Monday, 7 October 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
Pretty sure I just saw the spine of Monster in the CD racks belonging to McNulty in his office cubicle in the first series of The Wire.
― Maresn3st, Monday, 7 October 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
It and a Pogues album are the only ones he owns.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 October 2019 19:03 (four years ago) link
I’m gonna bash the fact that the 2-disc version of the anniversary set consists of the original album + remixed album, and not the outtake disc (which you need to buy the 6-disc set to hear).
Exactly, I'm really annoyed by this move. Especially since it also breaks with the run they've had going of the 2-disc version either being packaged with a disc of demos or a live set. I have no desire to have the 2019 mix.
― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 October 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
so this seems like a p radical remix? This clip has me excited
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19hhctlleNo&feature=youtu.be
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 October 2019 22:31 (four years ago) link
ugh, well Scott Litt on nixing altogether the staccato guitar on the choruses to WTFK
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 October 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
These remixes are both fucking terrible. I feel like one of those people that bash's Giles Martin's Beatles remixes (which I personally like); WTF is Litt thinking? These sound like boosted rough mixes where he looses almost every little touch that made the songs remotely palateable in the first place (I like this album more than most people but I'm not pretending it's one of their best ones. The remix seems to be aching to make it even worse).
― akm, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
Yeah, just did an A/B listen to "Let Me In" and... I don't think the new version does either the song, or Stipe's vocal, any favors.
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Friday, 11 October 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link
(The new version is here.)
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Friday, 11 October 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link
The new "Let Me In" is silly.
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 11 October 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
i'm iffy on listening to the remixes since the original album is so fixed in my mind production-wise, and it was an album i loved right off the bat. i thought it was wildly successful in what it intended to do, and its tepid reception had more to do with it not being the R.E.M. people wanted. Similar to what happened w/a lot of U2 fans in the '90s; both groups of disappointed fans missed out on some of their best work.
― omar little, Friday, 11 October 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
there was definitely a distancing effect on the rock tracks where the vocals were buried under layers of guitar overdrive. I can understand how that may have turned people off, but I thought it was pretty cool. "Fixing" the mixes now, just comes across as very unnecessary second guessing.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 October 2019 17:39 (four years ago) link
What will be your look this season?
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Friday, 11 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
https://i.imgur.com/WSy9a6j.jpg
― pplains, Friday, 11 October 2019 18:23 (four years ago) link
haha, the Special Editions were exactly how I felt about the songs on the recent Stereolab reissues that had different fade outs or mixes or whatnot. I'm sure it applies here as well. The need to tamper with original works and "improve" them is frustrating, especially when the original gets erased.
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Friday, 11 October 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link
Wait, is this new version replacing the original?
― Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 11 October 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link
no
― american bradass (BradNelson), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link
ok I can see tweaking levels on some of these tracks to get more separation or whatever but negating the whole point (drenching guitars) of something like Let Me In is just laughably stupid
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 11 October 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link
nothing will ever replace the original because there are hundreds of copies of it in every retail establishment in the world, enough to last millions of years
― akm, Friday, 11 October 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
I do kinda want to hear the remastered version of the OG mix.
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Friday, 11 October 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link
See more of a point to the "Let Me In" mix than the Kenneth one. I like it OK.
― timellison, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:17 (four years ago) link
the remaster has been on streaming services since they announced this. it sounds pretty good.
― akm, Saturday, 12 October 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link
> nothing will ever replace the original because there are hundreds of copies of it in every retail establishment in the world, enough to last millions of years
Is anyone buying those hundreds of copies? CD stores have closed across the developed world, CD sales have plunged even online, and more and more people today don’t even own a CD player. As the world moves to streaming, it is certainly possible for remastered and reworked versions to obscure the original releases.
― Melomane, Saturday, 12 October 2019 06:20 (four years ago) link
One of the best things around the original Let Me In mix was the extent to which Stipe's vocal sounded like it was drowning in the guitars. That and the organ line at the end. Obviously the remix dispenses with both those elements.
― Matt DC, Saturday, 12 October 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link
smdh
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Saturday, 12 October 2019 13:05 (four years ago) link
in the future all home will be insulated with copies of Monster
― akm, Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link
xpost exactly what I said before. everything good about the song got ditched in this! well not everything, the song itself is actually a good song. but everything good about the production. this just sounds like an unmixed version. it's stupid.
― akm, Saturday, 12 October 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
I like hearing Stipe's performance on it clearer. It's kind of like a Husker Du song. Very sad song.
― timellison, Saturday, 12 October 2019 18:56 (four years ago) link
Also: maybe it's just that one guitar on the original, just more processed.
― timellison, Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link
Mills on guitar iirc
Buck on Farfisa
― timellison, Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:02 (four years ago) link
Berry on Heineken
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
Tambourine!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19hhctlleNo
― timellison, Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:06 (four years ago) link
Haha, I thought so (but couldn’t resist the joke)
― drunk on hot toddies (morrisp), Saturday, 12 October 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link
Stipe’s comments about the song at the time have always stuck with me, that he felt that if he too had become super-famous at a younger age, that he wouldn’t have survived it. R.E.M. were nice guys.
― timellison, Saturday, 12 October 2019 21:48 (four years ago) link
I'd like to hear Document with a little less of the eighties production, that's for sure.
― Maresn3st, Saturday, 12 October 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
xp xref “How to Disappear Completely”
― an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Sunday, 13 October 2019 00:13 (four years ago) link
lmao wait til y'all hear the "king of comedy" remix
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 20 October 2019 22:11 (four years ago) link
make your money
― billstevejim, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 03:28 (four years ago) link
nothing will ever replace the original because there are hundreds of copies of it in every retail establishment in the world, enough to last millions of years― akm, Friday, October 11, 2019 10:04 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
― akm, Friday, October 11, 2019 10:04 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol seriously. there were always 3-4 copies of this album and new order's republic in every used CD bin in the late 90s.
― officer sonny bonds, lytton pd (mayor jingleberries), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 16:07 (four years ago) link
And it's in 50% of the charity shops in Britain right now, alongside Free Peace Sweet, Onka's Big Moka and every Robbie Williams record.
― Maresn3st, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
SPICEWORLD
― kinder, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 20:43 (four years ago) link
the Best Of Bread of the digital era
― valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
New interview, some good lines: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/entertainment-arts-50206491
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 03:50 (four years ago) link
I like how they’re basically — “Scott’s new remix is whatever, we had nothing to do with it....”
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 03:55 (four years ago) link
The band built an app so you can A/B the two versions: https://www.engadget.com/amp/2019/10/29/rem-monster-25th-anniversary-remix-compare-web-app/
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link
All these years later, I'm finding that "What's The Frequency, Kenneth?" not a highlight for me at the time, has totally held up for me. I want to sing along with it at the top of my lungs whenever I hear it.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 14:56 (four years ago) link
In the vernacular of the era: "Could the vocal BE any drier and more upfront?"
https://66.media.tumblr.com/1ab7daff8828955c68405b62752224d5/tumblr_p4trcpBLJD1x4bi9zo6_250.png
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
I'll admit it's interesting to actually hear (parse) the lyrics of "Star 69" for the first time.
― dracula et son fils (morrisp), Tuesday, 29 October 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link