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SPIT HAPPENS

ogmor, Monday, 7 October 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link

SPIT SPAT SPARKS JET BRAWL

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 7 October 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

SPIT SPAT SPARKS FLIGHT FIGHT

weatheringdaleson, Monday, 7 October 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link

A+ the both of yous.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 14:55 (four years ago) link

teamwork!

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 7 October 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

hol jet gob scrap

mark s, Monday, 7 October 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

SKY SALIVA SHENANIGANS

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 7 October 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link

as a verb spit can be transitive and intransitive, so i think the issue is simply that the object of the transitive form is what gets spat (the ejecta if you will) rather than the target of the spitting

mark s, Monday, 7 October 2019 15:19 (four years ago) link

yes, that makes sense.

Fizzles, Monday, 7 October 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link

SPIT SPAT IN FACE IN FACE SPIT SPAT

mick signals, Monday, 7 October 2019 15:49 (four years ago) link

The same problem as with "Queen Elizabeth to be evacuated in case of Brexit unrest".

The Pingularity (ledge), Monday, 7 October 2019 15:53 (four years ago) link

looking all this up i got distracted by the fact that ejecta and object have the same latin root (jaceo, I throw)

ejecta comes from ejicio, also meaning throw or cast (but i think in a more urgent way)
object come from objaceo, which means "i lie at the mercy or "i lie blocking the way" (of whatever, in each case) -- so a object is a thing chucked down in front of you blocking yr way which is at yr mercy, good work everyone

mark s, Monday, 7 October 2019 15:56 (four years ago) link

DE SPUTUS DISPUTANDUM EST

mick signals, Monday, 7 October 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

de sputo, but yes

mark s, Monday, 7 October 2019 16:10 (four years ago) link

Thank you

mick signals, Monday, 7 October 2019 16:12 (four years ago) link

shuttle spittle battle

too many cuckth thpoil the broth (darraghmac), Monday, 7 October 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link

fox in socks, my game is done, sir

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 7 October 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link

CABIN JABBIN' AFTER SPEW STEW

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 7 October 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

this just arrived through our front door and inflicted grievous internal injuries upon me, please send an ambulance

https://i.imgur.com/9yeCgug.jpg

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 17 February 2020 13:47 (four years ago) link

Creasing at the multiple indignities of 15% of for oaps

hyds (gyac), Monday, 17 February 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

excuse me, that's oap's

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 17 February 2020 13:50 (four years ago) link

Lol my fucking phone is STILL spelling the piss diamonds as Lib Dem’s but it literally overwrote my authentic spelling

hyds (gyac), Monday, 17 February 2020 13:51 (four years ago) link

u love 2 see it as we sub-editor's say

mark s, Monday, 17 February 2020 13:53 (four years ago) link

Same business, elsewhere on the web. Consistent!

We do jet washing for
Roof's patio's lock block drive's Concrete drive's wall's

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 February 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link

there's at least one thing wrong with literally every line, it's almost too completely incorrect to be real

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 17 February 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link

Hmmmm... Something tells me this positive feedback on bark.com could be an inside job:

KevIn weir
3 December 2019

Great bunch of lads that alway’s do a first class job at the right price, thank’s again boy’s 👍

Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 17 February 2020 13:57 (four years ago) link

big 'leaving your wallet at the scene of the crime' energy

Homegrown Georgia speedster Ladd McConkey (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 17 February 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link

"alway's" is radical and indeed breakway stuff in this context tbf

(esp. just two words after "lads") 👍

mark s, Monday, 17 February 2020 14:10 (four years ago) link

lad's

mookieproof, Monday, 17 February 2020 20:53 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

so a colleague asked me to read through a customer email she was sending and I queried the fact that she'd put a timeframe as 6a - 10a. My query consisted of me saying er shouldn't this be 'am'?

Response:

"I’ve increasingly seen it called it “6a” instead of “6am” in the US (to be efficient? no idea). Anyway, that’s how they referred to it on our call the other day so I thought I’d play along."

US ilxors - is this actually a thing?

Fizzles, Monday, 30 March 2020 09:00 (four years ago) link

no

mookieproof, Monday, 30 March 2020 09:02 (four years ago) link

in the my adventures developing similar shortcuts i moved to "6-10am", based on the assumption that (contextually) as nothing routinely being promoted was going to be "6pm-10am" no muddle was likely. (if/when "6pm-10am" was need then put that in full, till then no need).

so i can't complain that someone has invented a new compacting on a similar principle! what else is it going to be before or after except midday?

but i highly favour the compact in these circs so

mark s, Monday, 30 March 2020 09:08 (four years ago) link

to answer the question tho, i've not seen it but i don't read to proof off the clock so may have skimmed it w/o noticing

mark s, Monday, 30 March 2020 09:20 (four years ago) link

6-10am is good I think. 'a' by itself seems like an unhelpful letter to increase the frequency of its use in isolation. More, I was just surprised, as I hadn't come across it at all.

Fizzles, Monday, 30 March 2020 09:47 (four years ago) link

I was thinking "that looks familiar" but I've realised it's just similar enough to the way fount size is expressed when you buy a small amount of type: the size of a small fount (not point size but number of actual separate letters) is expressed in a number of a or A, and then the other letters are in set ratios to that. So you might buy a fount that's 5A-13a or whatever.

Tim, Monday, 30 March 2020 10:03 (four years ago) link

Since your colleague admits to knowing no reason why this construction would be more useful or helpful, it seems safe to err on the side of adding back one fucking letter to make one's communication more universally clear. btw, I've never seen "a" used to denote "a.m." by anyone. if it's a thing, it's a very limited thing.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 30 March 2020 16:07 (four years ago) link

well my colleague is great, so i perhaps wouldn’t do it with the same level of vituperation, but would be v happy to say “no one(*) in the USA has heard of this, in your face, colleague” to her, as she would take it in the right spirit.

(*by which i mean the totally authoritative aimless of ilx.com, no i will not be taking questions at this time)

Fizzles, Monday, 30 March 2020 17:02 (four years ago) link

obviously management/executive types in US corporations hatch all kinds of weird internal jargon for nonsensical reasons, and I am not intimately involved with their multiform communication foibles, but I'd say the chances are very high that this particular idiomatic use is confined to a tiny local tribe and has not spread to anything resembling ordinary use.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 30 March 2020 18:12 (four years ago) link

broadcast media r&d in atlanta is the micro-climate here.

Fizzles, Monday, 30 March 2020 20:56 (four years ago) link

four months pass...

Hello. I'm trying to write something in the present tense and I'm stuck on a conditional clause:

What is correct?


"That's amazing!", he says...

- If he could, he would have clapped John around the shoulder.
- If he could, he would clap John around the shoulder.

doorstep jetski (dog latin), Thursday, 30 July 2020 14:38 (three years ago) link

they're both correct but for different situations:

the second belongs in a context like the following:
he told the others that when he found him, if he could, he would clap John around the shoulder

the first is more like:
if he could, he would have clapped John around the shoulder -- but the crowd was too big and he never reached him

mark s, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:05 (three years ago) link

so i think you want the second, the first suggests something that might well still happen if conditions turn out right

mark s, Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:06 (three years ago) link

I think the second would be correct, but very awkward. You may be able to recast it into something more present: He feels a desire to clap John around the shoulder, but understands this is not possible.

the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Thursday, 30 July 2020 15:08 (three years ago) link

feels like there's a suppressed 'have' in the first one i.e. 'If he could (have), he would have..' but that's repetitive, so you leave it out and allow the 'have' in 'would have' to do all the work

so i think actually the opposite of what mark s has said?? i do not say this lightly

i.e. the first is narrating something that happened in the past; the second feels of the present

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:05 (three years ago) link

I agree with Tracer; the second one is in the present so I'd go with that.

Lily Dale, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Very much with TH and Lily on this, with the obvious caveat that I'm a non-native speaker.

pomenitul, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:25 (three years ago) link

I'd change the clause entirely to "wishing he could clap John around the shoulder", which gets across the fact that he wants to but can't.

joni mitchell jarre (anagram), Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

i agree about the suppressed "have" and can't work out how tracer's is "opposite" to mine?

mark s, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:33 (three years ago) link

As a thought experiment, 'He would clap John around the shoulder if he could' sounds more idiomatic to me than 'He would have clapped John around the shoulder if he could'.

pomenitul, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:35 (three years ago) link

it's not an issue of more or less idiomatic really, you'd use them in different contexts

mark s, Thursday, 30 July 2020 16:38 (three years ago) link


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