The article is from 2014
― flappy bird, Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:15 (four years ago) link
what do you mean ‘exhibit A?’ the John Waters movie?
― flappy bird, Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:17 (four years ago) link
nah toback’s distinguished list of credits
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
and?
― flappy bird, Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:52 (four years ago) link
idk you asked
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
like without getting into a big handwringing qu’est-ce que le cinéma discussion the notion that Marvel Studios has somehow appropriated multiplex screens that were otherwise destined to uplift us with quality pictures is risible.quel dommage the Two Girls and a Guyses of tomorrow will have to find an audience on Amazon Prime Video or Netflix Originals. And they will, bc as the article rightly notes they don’t require absurd budgets, and they don’t need big screens to tell their story.What does get squeezed out is previous-gen tentpole fare, but I guess I’m okay living in a world without Wilder Hogs or Armageddon 3 or The Day After The Day After Tomorrow.It may not be cinema - I mean, Scorsese has a point! - but it’s a step up from the alternative, and if you don’t believe that try sitting through Justice League. If you want cinema, there’s always Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse 😂
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 22:57 (four years ago) link
I don't agree, I miss an abundance of studio comedies and disaster movies and secret agents and book adaptations and more VARIETY... that's really what bothers me about Marvel and Disney's year round occupation of multiplexes, the alarming lack of variety. I go to the movies two, three times a week at least. I'm more invested in what plays than most because I go all the time. it's not like they flushed out all crap: stuff like Flight, Nocturnal Animals, Side Effects, even First Man and Ad Astra can't compete with these behemoths. it is a victory of market efficiency and the movie industry finally finding security in not only IPs but entire universes that can guarantee hits for decades. Maybe the bubble will burst just as did with disaster movies, zombies, and Bucket List ripoffs. I really don't think less of or judge fans of these movies, I reject snobbery and elitism. I do mourn the loss of variety in multiplexes because every movie benefits from seeing on a big screen in a room full of people. but that's just been my experience as a lifelong moviegoer.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:10 (four years ago) link
totally agree every movie benefits from the movie palace treatment... but man has the transition to streaming shown how few movies deserve it.still feel like the case against marvel is overblown - like in a sense their greatest crime is that at a time when it seemed like we’d seen the last shitty x-men movie (and to be clear even the “good” ones are turgid and ugly) Kevin Feige and John Favreau and RDJ came along and said “hey wait, I think it’s possible to make cape operas that lots of people will actually enjoy...” but even so there are only like 3 marvel movies a year and 52 weekends.that said, fuck pretending to care about any Star Wars movie released after 1983
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link
yeah I don't blame them, like I said the Marvel movies are generally well regarded and well received by fans. there are 3 Marvel movies a year that all play for at least 2 months, which is reasonable... but then you've got Disney. they are the real enemy because not only do they have year round remakes, they have yearly Star Wars now. so with Marvel and Disney playing in theaters 24/7 it drastically reduces space, and it got a lot worse in the past 2 years. the MCU started in 2008, but things didn't really change until The Force Awakens in 2015. looking back, that was the beginning of this situation.
― flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link
Scorsese utterly otm and watching MCU stans trying to own him on film history etc has been great entertainment
― Simon H., Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
Yea always a treat watching a legend go after low-hanging fruit
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link
"Taco Bell isn't real Mexican food"
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:29 (four years ago) link
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:31 (four years ago) link
I thought it was pretty funny how many people were tweeting that Scorsese "only makes movies in one genre"
― flappy bird, Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
Well that's obv nonsense.
But the average MCU dork probably just knows Goodfellas and Casino
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
I mean didn’t Scorsese say that in a response to a question in an interview? It seemed like a perfectly honest (and on point) assessment. Much less of an Old Man Yelling thing in the way someone like Friedkin soapboxes about it.
― circa1916, Sunday, 6 October 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
STOP FEEDING THE MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE FROM THE TABLE FROM THE PLATE ON TOP OF IT.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 6 October 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link
So does Joe Pesci still do the funny voice
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Sunday, 6 October 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link
a strange development
https://www.theverge.com/2019/10/7/20903107/netflix-the-irishman-martin-scorsese-belasco-theater-screening-award-eligibility
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 06:41 (four years ago) link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_wall_distribution
Adventures in modern four walling.
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 09:56 (four years ago) link
Love this idea of the Belasco, if it’s not $100/ticket.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:54 (four years ago) link
...and per Deadline:
Tickets for The Irishman at the Belasco will be priced at $15, on sale next week.
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
I'm whipping through the source book, I Heard You Paint Houses, and it's a barnburner -- I can imagine Marty salivating over it on first read. Either Sheeran was a top-notch mick raconteur (as several of my family members of that generation were) or the author did a helluva job polishing the transcriptions.
It starts with the leadup to the Hoffa disappearance then goe into Sheeran's life chronologically. His WW2 experience (411 combat days, including Anzio and 2 other invasions) is dealt with relatively quickly but brutally -- Sheeran kinda persuasively makes the case that PTSD killed off his morality. I also am reminded of how I learned a number of these gang/labor names reading the papers in grade school...
I doubt they had the CG tech to film the scene where Sheeran gets his ass kicked boxing a kangaroo.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:21 (four years ago) link
I want to see Robert DeNiro boxing a kangaroo
― flappy bird, Friday, 11 October 2019 16:41 (four years ago) link
he missed his chance in the late '70s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaE8gZUzwNA
(amazing how fast Elliott Gould's career went into the crapper)
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 11 October 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
marty says more things, sounds more like old man yelling at cloud. awaiting his further befuddlement in the face of demands for a thorough explanation of why he, Scorsese, an American cinema director of Italian descent, would cast an American actor of Italian descent in the title role when Liam Neeson was available.
still really looking forward to this.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Sunday, 13 October 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link
Was going to say maybe Neeson was too tall but Sheeran was 6’4”
― omar little, Sunday, 13 October 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
Sheeeran was Philly Irish, not Irish Irish
lol yeah casting scandals about a buncha white guys, v likely
icymi, DeNiro is part Irish
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 October 2019 01:54 (four years ago) link
idk I hold out hope that some day they will find a jewish actor capable of playing Jesus
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 October 2019 03:22 (four years ago) link
A hit, a very palpable hit.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 14 October 2019 03:47 (four years ago) link
De Niro is as Irish as he is Italian iirc
― Seany's too Dyche to mention (jim in vancouver), Monday, 14 October 2019 06:22 (four years ago) link
Almost as if we discussed that at the beginning of this thread. Morbs even insulted someone
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Monday, 14 October 2019 06:29 (four years ago) link
The Frank Sheeran book, as Morbs said above, is a great read. I'm racing through it but that's not tough going at all. Excited to see how Scorsese approached this material. In my mind's eye I see Sheeran played by Holt McCallany rather DeNiro but, hey, nobody's complainin' here.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 14 October 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
*rather than
Yes, he's American.
― Michael Oliver of Penge Wins £5 (Tom D.), Monday, 14 October 2019 10:29 (four years ago) link
uh guys this does not need to be re-litigated.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 October 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
rogermex sees this film as necessary anti-union education
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 October 2019 14:04 (four years ago) link
ffs
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Monday, 14 October 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
just havin' a little fun, rog
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Monday, 14 October 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
Lol from now on movie characters must be played by their real life counterparts
― plax (ico), Monday, 14 October 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
anyway the deNiro-Pesci dynamic should be different this time as Pesci is playing Russell Bufalino, ie Sheeran's "godfather." Also, Bufalino described as softspoken!
otoh Sheeran said Hoffa threw a tantrum twice a day to keep his temper in shape, so in Pacino's wheelhouse.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 15:47 (four years ago) link
Pacino and Pesci screamed their lines on set and they dampened them in post
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 15 October 2019 17:01 (four years ago) link
E Howard Hunt shows up in the book, Nixon AG John Mitchell even moreso. And a 2-page cameo by Joe Biden!
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link
The Brandt book has many respectable skeptics re Sheeran's veracity, but for the movie, who cares?
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
Yes, "who cares?" indeed.
― Pauline Male (Eric H.), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
sez the JFK fan!
David Ferrie is in the book briefly but apaprently not the film; too bad, Pesci could've done a dual role.
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
AFI Silver has just announced a run starting November 15. Landmark E Street has the film on its Coming Soon page, but no start date.
― Anne Hedonia (j.lu), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:25 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j1T5xjwGJQ
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 19 October 2019 12:32 (four years ago) link
THE DAILY BEAST’S OBSESSEDDoes Anyone Care If Marvel Movies Are ‘Cinema’?Kevin FallonSenior Entertainment Reporter
Does Anyone Care If Marvel Movies Are ‘Cinema’?
Kevin FallonSenior Entertainment Reporter
I'm gonna say...Kevin Fallon, Senior Entertainment Reporter?
― Suggest Banshee (Hadrian VIII), Friday, 25 October 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link
let's keep that M*rvel madness outta this thread
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:14 (four years ago) link