Replacements Albums, Best of the Worst: Don't Tell a Soul vs. All Shook Down

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Too Liberal To Function

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

Kidding aside, I guess artistic, kind of shy, earnest, partial to granny dresses and thrift stores.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

Manic Pixie Song Character

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

Kidding aside, I guess artistic, kind of shy, earnest, partial to granny dresses and thrift stores.

So he WAS singing to little 14 year old me?? Whoa

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:16 (four years ago) link

"She's kind of like an artist, and kind of like a movie, but mostly Saoirse Ronan is... ACHIN' TO BE"

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

There’s a little part in the recent oral history of Lilith Fair where Liz Phair remembered having water splashed in her face by Natalie Merchant that made me lol
It made me think Natalie Merchant had/has more impish spirit than I gave her credit for!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 5 October 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

I very distinctly remember the Natalie Merchant connection coming from this article in Spin where the writer says Achin' To Be is about a "girl who you know looks like Natalie Merchant." (Totally recommend flipping through that issue btw)

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:05 (four years ago) link

I'm pretty sure in the book it specifically says it was about his sister but maybe I'm misremembering

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:11 (four years ago) link

That issue had a reasonably significant impact on me. While Sex Machine isn’t quite as great as they make it out to be (though an un-futzed-with version is coming out next month), many of the other lists sent me on investigating scurries.

And the Winger ad is all-time.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:13 (four years ago) link

> That issue had a reasonably significant impact on me.

Me too! I still have my copy

j.o.h.n. in evanston (john. a resident of chicago.), Saturday, 5 October 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

three years pass...

- Tim (probably the most poorly produced album of all time)

- Hey, have you ever heard of a band called Hüsker Dü? Because...

Tim is notoriously a poor sounding record, but it's never been a deal-breaker for me, partly because it sounds poor in a familiar way: it reminds me of the Spot-engineered Hüsker Dü records and even some Ramones albums.

- I'm finally listening to the expanded edition of Don't Tell A Soul. "We Know The Night" is a killer. It's a solo acoustic take, but dig this line:

"In the afternoon, my mind ain't sleepy, it's preoccupied"

look I don't need to explain to any of you what he means but it's naked rock and roll.

It really is a highlight. (FWIW, it was remixed for Dead Man's Pop with a spoken intro left in.) Wallace mentioned that he recorded a full-band version of the song too - not the sloppy one with Tom Waits but presumably a proper recording that could've been used for the album. Unfortunately, when the band erased a bunch of tapes in a rush of bootleg paranoia, Wallace said the original multi-track was one of the casualties, and that was all they had since it hadn't mixed it yet. Hard to see how it would've beat the solo version we do have though - the spare guitar-and-piano arrangement really enhances the mood.

- i love "asking me lies" and many variations thereof

Count me in as another fan of this track. I didn't even remember how it sounded on Don't Tell a Soul, but it's fun stuff here, especially on the bonus cassette sent with Rhino direct orders:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oW5_LDOwfo

With the rhythm guitar mixed up, the classic Jackson 5 connection becomes clearer and more evident. It's every bit as charming as one of the J5's better deep cuts.

- I've heard the Tom Waits stuff is awful

Fun to hear once, but that's it. "Date to Church" really is the only thing worth returning to. I like how they remixed it though, it sounds like they double-tracked the harmony vocals to make it sound more like a parody of a choir.

- one quandary: "Portland" should have been on the album and would have been one of the best songs, but then Westerberg would have had to drop one of the best songs Talent Show because he recycled the chorus of "Portland"

"Portland" totally should have made it - I would've used it to replace side two's opener, "Back to Back." And repeating the chorus doesn't sound like a problem - it actually gives the album a welcome bit of thematic unity by having those lyrics appear on each side's opening cut.

- Oh, here's a downgrade on the new version, imo: I think "I'll Be You" is slower.

True, but I still would use the Wallace remix for the album as it would be too jarring to keep one of CLA's mixes intact. In hindsight, Wallace told Mehr that he should've asked Sire to let him mix the LP and let CLA mix the singles, and Mehr pointed out that such a move would have a strong precedent as Jimmy Iovine was brought in to mix the single release of Pleased to Meet Me's "Can't Hardly Wait."

birdistheword, Monday, 28 November 2022 03:35 (one year ago) link

Weird revive; I’ve been listening to Dead Man’s Pop and DTAS all week. For my money, honestly, the best Replacements album in either configuration, though I give the nod to the Wallace mix.

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 28 November 2022 06:06 (one year ago) link

It would have been very cool and po-mo if they had kept Portland on and been like “so the look out here we go part is in both songs; deal with it.”

What they did to “They’re Blind” on DTAS was a fucking crime. In retrospect. Although it’s a gorgeous song in either presentation.

an incomprehensible borefest full of elves (hardcore dilettante), Monday, 28 November 2022 06:11 (one year ago) link

Yeah, very cool - I definitely would have kept in both tracks as-is. It would've been interesting to see the response to having a hook/lyric repeated like that too - not a new idea at all, but the best-known precedents in rock would've been stuff like Yes or Wings' Band on the Run. (Although the 'Mats did start off playing a lot of Yes before Westerberg joined.)

birdistheword, Monday, 28 November 2022 14:42 (one year ago) link

My memory of Don't Tell a Soul is tied up with my having seen them for the first time on that tour, at the Aragon Ballroom in Chicago. I caught them on a really good night, and it's one of the most memorable concert experiences I've ever had--the buckets of beer the venue was selling notwithstanding.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 28 November 2022 14:50 (one year ago) link

Natalie Merchant types . . .

Natalie and Michael came into the record store I was working at in Boulder, CO in, I guess, about 1986 or 87. I didn't realize who they were until they left; I thought they were a couple of homeless people.

A buddy of mine saw 10,000 Maniacs early on. Natalie was huffing markers all night. By the end of the show, her upper lip was multicolored.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 28 November 2022 14:55 (one year ago) link

shiver in my bones just thinkin
bout the Sharpies

a (waterface), Monday, 28 November 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link

what's the marker here?


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