PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

https://waterfordwhispersnews.com/2019/10/02/british-soldier-has-no-idea-hell-soon-be-screaming-at-elderly-belfast-woman-to-get-out-of-the-fucking-car/

oof

Saw that the other day, lolled, ground teeth

Gordon Bennett, would you Adam and Eve it?

The contents of government documents released in a Scottish court have shown the prime minister will seek a Brexit extension from the EU if no withdrawal deal is reached by 19 October.

Boris Johnson said he would rather be “dead in a ditch” than seek a further delay, and the revelation in court appears to be in direct contradiction of that statement.

profiles in courage

all those ex-UKIP headbangers who joined the party just to vote for boris will want a refund now.

oh what we'd rather

'Twas a metaphorical ditch and a metaphorical death

o rly

A source confirms all this means is that Government will obey the law.

It does not mean we will extend.

It does not mean we will stay in the EU beyond Oct 31.

We will leave. https://t.co/LuVt45rMAr

— Steve Baker MP (@SteveBakerHW) October 4, 2019

Maybe he would rather die in a ditch than request an extension but he would definitely rather request an extension than go to prison.

I'm told the ditch is also in a prison.

Shit I made the mistake of reading the comments to that tweet

You mean the succession of cretins saying they will vote Brexit Party if we don't leave by October 31st? Sweet music to my ears tbh.

so is baker saying that the plan to ask for an extension, receive it, and then blow a big fat raspberry in donald tusk's face and hurl the nation off the no-deal cliff anyway?

never try and predict what a wild and dangerous Brexit Hardman is going to do next, pardner.

Get the Hungarians to veto an extension?

Yup, my colleague reckons there's some sort of secret deal with Orban, based on not sure what exactly

Jacób Rees-Mőgg is on it.

Seems to be a possibility

Alternatively does "give us an extension you garlic-smelling cunts" count as a request compatible with the law?

My guess is that he'll ask for the extension, yes, but sarcastically.

The Hungarian foreign minister’s motorcade was seen in town, and they went to a meeting inside the cabinet office while BJ was in the building. Though it’s a high-risk strategy because it counts as collusion with a foreign power to undermine Parliament.

Collusion with a fascist foreign power, Brexiteers love to see it

Was about to say, that wouldn't bother a Tory.

Orbán just loves his country, you know?

what's in it for orban tho? he can't get any kind of a special trade deal with the UK bcz being in the EU doesn't allow this -- and he can piss off his EU neighbours who he actually he to carry on working with?

(the great cross-europe bannonite awakening has really not developed to its own advantage to date)

There is no law against collusion with a foreign power, etc.

It would be an incredibly high risk strategy for Orban though, both in terms of his position with the rest of the Visehrad group and burning bridges with the EU26.

xps

Baldrickian.

Is Orban going to publicly state he will veto? Because it seems like a bad idea for planning-purposes to create a scenario where UK is thrown into Brexit-without warning anyone.

alternative reality where hungary boris is the follow up to boris goes scheming

a+

lol!

Fine work

Yeah why would Orban stick his neck out other than in a vague Nazis-gotta-stick-together way?

The EU vetoing a parliament-ordered extension because of Hungary seems like one thing that would make a GNU with orders to revoke A50 more likely than not

Alternatively does "give us an extension you garlic-smelling cunts" count as a request compatible with the law?

― Goose Witherspeen (Noodle Vague), Friday, 4 October 2019 13:10 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

tbh, one of the major flaws of the benn act is that its seemingly inherently contemptuous of the eu. the text is pretty dismissive and the intent is largely to relegate the european project to an effect of uk internal political strife. this, to me, seems a pretty bad idea. In addition, it doesn't contain afaik any convincing reason *why* the eu27 should grant an extension, it includes no bargaining chip such as calling a general election etc that might conceivably relieve the blockages caused by deadlocked parliament etc. By all rights, the EU sortof *should* reject the Boris request as it is not in good faith even if he does it with a smile.

I mean i'd rather they didn't but it does seem that the eu's position was little considered by the architects of the benn act which, to me, seems very much cut from the same arrogant and contemptuous cloth as much of the brexiteer posturing with respect to the expectation that other countries are just there to do the uk's bidding

I suspect that the eu27 will accept another extension but its not really under ideal circumstances and i think it really reveals a gap in the remainer spirit with respect to the value they attach to the eu

As such, you're right (and the impossibility of some of the press framing this is any other terms than "can this deal pass the HoC?" is grating), but considering that a lot of the EU will have seen Corbyn visibly hovering his hand over the VONC button, it's not like they'll think that this extension will return exactly the same result in six months or whatever.

Also these extensions are burning future-relationship negotiation time, which is to the EU's advantage if we ever get past WA stage.

Wow, Arcuri's good value: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnsons-pal-claims-men-20399064

Am I right in thinking it's a bit more complicated than 'every EU country has a veto'?

Seems legit.

“I had the best f***ing flat in East London. The reason why Boris would stopover was because of the clusterf*** of emails.
“And he was like, ‘Jen, what the f***’s a Google hangout? Where are you at three o’clock, I can, you know, stop over.

Because, obviously, as Mayor of London, he had no-one else to ask.

“I don’t like boozers. I’m a pret a manger xunt” - rory on channel 4 news

Am I right in thinking it's a bit more complicated than 'every EU country has a veto'?

― Matt DC, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:20 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

can only report on all ive seen and this does appear to be the case tbh

"i spend my time going to pret a manger" -- rory speaks to the voters* with this one

*me

protip: keep your Pret loyalty card neatly stashed in the grosgrain ribbon of your gold top hat:p

they have a loyalty card??!

They do them in Pret A Mangy

Proof if ever you needed. It’s a bad idea for Corbyn to stand down for any temporary period. https://t.co/7TfpJUI72m

— The Trashies (@TheTrashiesUK) October 5, 2019