US Politics, October 2019 — I guess statement you could say with thread. I made a thread. The thread was PERFECT.

There are some similarities. The buildup to the Iraq invasion was a similar inept sleight of hand where data critical of the existence of WMDs was shut down as essentially "fake news"

Main diff is he was nowhere near as ascerbic towards the press so they helped him with his spin.

The George W. Bush Mind Wipe Project began in 2007. I've never seen a president disappear so abruptly after goddamn ubiquity.

the great thing about the breitbart poll image is that it indicates trump himself voted in it

("return to poll")

yes, but you have to vote in the poll in order to see the very scientific results

It looks like the Department of Justice will intervene in a fight between President Trump and the Manhattan District Attorney over the president’s tax returns https://t.co/jzRNcMwEXq

— POLITICO (@politico) October 1, 2019

The Trump call suggested he has conflated three separate ideas (that Ukraine was acting against him, that Crowdstrike had an inherent pre-existing bias and that the DNC server was never analysed by the FBI) into one easily disproved conspiracy theory (that Crowdstrike has the DNC server hidden in Ukraine). Idk whether that says more about Trump’s inability to process information than it does about his broader team’s ability to come up with consistent attack lines.

I can’t imagine Trump disappearing in 2021, not with 90% approval from Republicans. Already more and more right-wing media is pushing the narrative that he’s a victim of a coup attempt by the deep state because he’s so devoted to battling corruption - QAnon but a little less goofy. If he loses it will be all due to the deep state, the Democrat will be an illegitimate president no matter the margin of victory.

that's going to happen no matter what

we've been through all this before, both on ILX and also in real life. even before the 2016 election, trump was pushing the line that he was cheated out of a victory. and afterward, when he was farting all over the chairs of the oval office with every breath, he couldn't stop talking about how millions of votes had been stolen from him. no matter what happens, whether the margins are razor-thin or a blowout, whether he "wins" or loses, trump will say he was cheated and take that to the grave, and he'll have uncountable people who believe him. they will probably have their own tv network for this (like NRAtv, but tackier)

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sleeve said it more concisely :)

Trump will be in the news long after he is gone - from the presidency, and from the earth.

Fascist Elvis

are you loathsome tonight

it's not even 2pm

it's crime o'clock somewhere

the Department of Justice will intervene in a fight between President Trump and the Manhattan District Attorney

Impeach Bill Barr.

seriously, he is quickly elevating himself to supervillain status

same with pompeo

here's one basic thing i'm struggling with right now. i do believe that the republican senate won't vote to convict trump. i've come to accept this. but now, it's becoming clear (to me at least) that barr and pompeo deserve to go down for this as well. will the republican senate prevent them from being impeached as well? the result of that would be devastating, i think, for this country. seeing not just trump wiggle his way out of it once again, but also an expanding group of fucking goons. but would the republicans ever split their impeachment vote between trump (not guilty) and barr/pompeo(guilty)? it's hard to imagine that, either. all of the outcomes seem either unlikely or unthinkable

GWB didn't (technically) lose any elections; I know you meant "slinked out of office"

oops yeah, sorry, my mind created a locus of satisfaction where none existed

when you're a Jet you're a Jet all the way, Karl

> locus of satisfaction

new board title

is. but now, it's becoming clear (to me at least) that barr and pompeo deserve to go down for this as well. will the republican senate prevent them from being impeached as well? the result of that would be devastating, i think, for this country. seeing not just trump wiggle his way out of it once again, but also an expanding group of fucking goons.

https://www.politico.com/story/2018/12/24/bush-pardons-iran-contra-felons-dec-24-1992-1072042

powerful people getting away with shit is nothing new, but the scale of the current thing is something not seen since watergate, and perhaps surpassing it.

trying to imagine Trump declining to show up at conventions so he won't hurt the GOP candidate like GWB

He's defeating corruption by becoming corruption

Like Jesus

well played

I think Trump loves attention so much that he will demand to speak at GOP conventions after leaving office (and no one will dare stop him for fear of the red hatters).

And he will repeat his performance in the Roy Moore campaign - place one smarmy tentacle around the next R nominee. And when he or she loses, immediately claim that he or she was a weak candidate who wasn't Trumpy enough.

also after losing in 2020 he will spend the next three years teasing another run for President

Hopefully from a jail cell

It’s wild to me how people crawled over my 60 mins interview with a fine-toothed comb to find any word or reason to claim I’m unfit for the job, yet here Kevin McCarthy (the GOP Leader!) is a bumbling, sloppy, dishonest mess & his mediocrity is accepted as a matter of course. https://t.co/zx7qlhW9dh

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) September 30, 2019

YES

Damn!

hard bigotry of high expectations

the way mccarthy says 'the defense of what?' and thinks he's clever

the phrase "snake-filled moats" just popped up on my NYT alerts
welcome to 2019 i guess

even by 2019 standards, this is a tour de force

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/01/us/politics/trump-border-wars.html

The Oval Office meeting this past March began, as so many had, with President Trump fuming about migrants. But this time he had a solution. As White House advisers listened astonished, he ordered them to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border with Mexico — by noon the next day. The advisers feared the president’s edict would trap American tourists in Mexico, strand children at schools on both sides of the border and create an economic meltdown in two countries. Yet they also knew how much the president’s zeal to stop immigration had sent him lurching for solutions, one more extreme than the next.

Privately, the president had often talked about fortifying a border wall with a water-filled trench, stocked with snakes or alligators, prompting aides to seek a cost estimate. He wanted the wall electrified, with spikes on top that could pierce human flesh. After publicly suggesting that soldiers shoot migrants if they threw rocks, the president backed off when his staff told him that was illegal. But later in a meeting, aides recalled, he suggested that they shoot migrants in the legs to slow them down. That’s not allowed either, they told him.

“You are making me look like an idiot!” Mr. Trump shouted, adding in a profanity, as multiple officials in the room described it. “I ran on this. It’s my issue.’’

Ms. Nielsen, a former aide to George W. Bush brought into the department by John F. Kelly, the president’s former chief of staff, was in a perilous position. She had always been viewed with suspicion by the president, who told aides she was “a Bushie,” and part of the “deep state” who once contributed to a group that supported Jeb Bush’s presidential campaign.

Mr. Trump had routinely berated Ms. Nielsen as ineffective and, worse — at least in his mind — not tough-looking enough. “Lou Dobbs hates you, Ann Coulter hates you, you’re making me look bad,’’ Mr. Trump would tell her, referring to the Fox Business Network host and the conservative commentator.

The happiest he had been with Ms. Nielsen was a few months earlier, when American border agents had fired tear gas into Mexico to try to stop migrants from crossing into the United States. Human rights organizations condemned the move, but Mr. Trump loved it.

We can close the border, she told the president, but it’s not going to fix anything. People will still be permitted to claim asylum.

But Mr. Trump was unmoved. Even Mr. Kushner, who had developed relationships with Mexican officials and now sided with Ms. Nielsen, could not get through to him.

“All you care about is your friends in Mexico,” the president snapped, according to people in the room. “I’ve had it. I want it done at noon tomorrow.”

so what was the cost of a snake moat? asking for a friend.

the president is a racist eight year old

https://media.makeameme.org/created/strategy-you-gave.jpg

“Sir, I know you’re really frustrated,” she told him. The president invited her to meet with him on Sunday in the White House residence.

Ms. Nielsen knew that Miller wanted her out, so she spent the flight huddled with aides on a strategy for getting control of the border, a Hail Mary pass. She called it the “Six C’s” — Congress, Courts, Communications, Countries, Criminals, Cartels.

Unbeknown to her, Ms. Nielsen’s staff started work on her letter of resignation.

When Ms. Nielsen presented her plan to Mr. Trump at the White House, he dismissed it and told her what he really needed was a cement wall.

“Sir,” she said, “I literally don’t think that’s even possible.”

sorry: meant to say an insane racist eight year old

should've just added a seventh C

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Cell?

Calum?

IN THE NAVY!

https://howmuch.net/costs/wall-block-install
i'm sure it's the same cost no matter where you put it of course.
1,954 miles = 10,317,120 Feet divided by 350 = 29,478 multiplied by $20,061 = $591,358,158
let's assume the laws of physics clearly don't apply and you don't need to provide additional support so just multiply that times 6 and bingo bango you got a 36 foot tall, 2,000 mile long border wall for 3.4 billion
SO DON'T TELL ME I'M KIM POSSIBLE

the president of the united states demanded that his staffers look into the cost of digging a moat along the mexico/us border and filling it with snakes and not only are you not surprised, it doesn't make you feel any differently toward him than you did before you had that information
truly the stupidest universe

how many snakes would it take to fill a 2000 mile moat?

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that photo--it's like Trump has become the orb

L'orb c'est moi

very cool theocracy u have there

Hands on a Soft Body

what do you win?

Are Christians okay?

rarely afaict

That picture was from a few years ago, wasn't it?

Yes, all of those people died shortly after making physical contact with President Trump.

US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.

i mean, if you can call being absorbed into the throbbing mass of gelatinous flesh that humans call donald j trump 'dying', then sure xp

has this bimbo ever told the truth?

Having called around some, reassured in my judgment that those House Republicans open to voting for impeachment simply decided to stick with the party yesterday, and to save their dissent for the real vote. No point telegraphing the jail break to the prison guards ahead of time.

— Bill Kristol (@BillKristol) November 1, 2019

Hie thee to the nov thred but I think he has had a few weirdly accurate tweets recently? It was presented with some grand statesman smarm, sure

US Politics, November 2019: These people are truly sick.