Drink full: The TWIN PEAKS 2017 spoiler thread, part 2

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my only prediction is that if there is indeed a new season, I wouldn't be surprised if Mark Frost wasn't involved this time around

Simon H., Monday, 30 September 2019 22:42 (four years ago) link

It’s wild that, with FWWM as the connective tissue, The Return fully encapsulates and extends the original series. FWWM started that, having Cooper and Laura in the lodge together, teasing out the thread of s3.

mh, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link

https://i.redd.it/yupcdvl3wtp31.jpg

Dan I., Tuesday, 1 October 2019 04:27 (four years ago) link

Honestly if Jennifer Lynch really is the source then I'm suddenly much less sure of all this lol

Simon H., Tuesday, 1 October 2019 05:35 (four years ago) link

Re Horse’s post, I think sometimes ppl overestimate how clued-in cast members are. Remember when the return was airing and josh fadem, who played dougie’s coworker Phil in like 3 scenes, tweeted a pic of himself at some red room popup & said something like “tonight’s ep is gonna rock” - & a bunch of geniuses convinced themselves this meant official confirmation of another part 8-style event, Cooper waking up, all sorts of craziness? & then delightfully the ep in question turned out to be part 12 (one of the best) and was mainly a series of long slow dialogue scenes, and maclachlan was only in it for 2 seconds, and people lost their minds

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 06:13 (four years ago) link

Also, there is apparently a twin peaks vr game/“experience” in production and Lynch is involved in some unknown capacity, so the exciting news could be him filming some new footage for that

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 06:16 (four years ago) link

Love this dapper suit, but definitely thinking about…donuts this morning 💭🍩 pic.twitter.com/mmutiMc75N

— Kyle MacLachlan (@Kyle_MacLachlan) October 1, 2019

OneSecondBefore, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

remember richard and linda

mh, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

jeez, what year is this

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 17:00 (four years ago) link

would be down for anything back in that universe. he wuldn't need to do a full series. look how impactful FWWM was; he could realistically do an amazing 2 1/2 hour movie. How much it relates to what happened before is kind of beside the point to me.

akm, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link

the misadventures of dr. amp

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link

one rumor is that there is still tons of shit that was filmed for season 3 that may be leveraged.

akm, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

Definitely need a Russ Tamblyn dance number with a golden shovel

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:46 (four years ago) link

remember all the great music in this

treeship., Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdszDlp7GE4

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

(yes)

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:55 (four years ago) link

I think I revealed that I love the Freddie-BOB punch-up but I don’t think I ever revealed that I love the limo sequence with that corny viva Las Vegas cover, which may be more controversial

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

(actually the viva las vegas scene leaves me breathless and floating-- flying thru a dream city to meet your murderers who will miraculously last-second realize you're people in a desert who share each others' dreams. attaches intense emotional weight+meaning not just to the sentimental feeling evoked by chintzy muzak but also to the fact of its chintziness) oh xp

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:00 (four years ago) link

i haven't reached it on this rewatch but previously the freddie-bob punchup has been harder for me to enjoy except on a once-removed "lol they really just did this" level-- hoping to be ravished by it as such this time

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

i do think freddie's story is hilarious, with the wholly uncryptic giant

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:05 (four years ago) link

Wholly uncryptic giant iirc in the same episode where we see andy meet him in similar circumstances and his only spoken dialogue is “I am the fireman”

It’s been a while but I really find the BOB attacks to be peak high-anxiety lo-fi digital action, to me the whole sequence flows perfectly out of the reprise of the part 8 moonlight sonata and into the we live inside a dream. I’m wholly on board with Freddy but that’s almost beside the point

YouGov to see it (wins), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

freddy was the low point of the series for me, no one is ever going to convince me otherwise. that's sub season-2 stuff.

akm, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link

Agreed. Doesn’t Lynch have people to distract him when he gets obsessed over YouTube stars?

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:24 (four years ago) link

one rumor is that there is still tons of shit that was filmed for season 3 that may be leveraged.

― akm, Tuesday, October 1, 2019 2:46 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

you mean shoveled

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link

I really find the BOB attacks to be peak high-anxiety lo-fi digital action

i can see this-- despite more absurd trappings it is a lot like the boss fight in inland empire.

unrelated and possibly eisegetic thing i recently enjoyed is that the last thing we hear an instant before cutting to our very first glimpse of audrey is "THE NINTH CIRCLE OF HELL WILL WELCOME YOU!!!!"

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link

there's thousands of miles of woods out there, audrey.

difficult listening hour, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:34 (four years ago) link

I liked Freddie/Bob fight because it was so thoroughly ridiculous and over the top. It was a perfect way to end the fantasy world of Twin Peaks, only to dump you into the real world hell of Richard, Linda, and Carrie.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

The size of Truman's office in that scene only makes sense if you have to accommodate about 20 people there at once. I could picture that being the Fireman's doing as well.

Chris L, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 23:02 (four years ago) link

9 hour supercut with most of the Dougie content excised.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 23:15 (four years ago) link

The size of Truman's office in that scene only makes sense if you have to accommodate about 20 people there at once.

There might be 20 people in the scene but hardly any of them are actually on set "at once". That's one thing that makes the silliness of the fight hard to take: that it keeps cutting to different individuals or groups of people apparently shot several months apart.

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link

That extremely wide doorway tho

Chris L, Tuesday, 1 October 2019 23:38 (four years ago) link

should I get DUGE LV vanity license plates

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link

anyway the potential for this is currently the only good thing in the US so I'll hope for it fervently

akm, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 01:27 (four years ago) link

If you are hungry for Twin Peaks content, I highly recommend the Access Guide to Twin Peaks.

Way better than the recent Frost books.

Maybe not as important as the Diary of Laura, but more fun.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:06 (four years ago) link

yeah I read that multiple times. it's cute I guess. the Frost books were irritating, like bad X Files novelizations.

akm, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:07 (four years ago) link

at this point I think TP is better the more obscure and less sense it makes. attempts to force structure and sense on it just come across bad.

akm, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link

yeah lol at the idea that there is some masterplan the series only show glimpses of, and it can be deduced from clues. Lynch works so instinctively that this is the opposite of the truth. The "real" Twin Peaks is right there on the screen in front of you, and the world-building is pursued only as far as is needed to give the images cohesion and power.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:20 (four years ago) link

Diary > Access Guide > Autobiography of Coop >>>>> Secret History >>> Final Dossier

Access Guide is fun and enjoyable because it's not trying to be important, but had some legit LOL moments. I reread the Autobiography of Dale recently and liked it a lot more than I expected. Not great literature by any means, but much better than it needs to be.

The Frost books are just... so much effort. In their production and the reading of them. Whenever they did have some interesting tidbit, it didn't seem to amount to much because it didn't feel "real." I can imagine Lynch rolling his eyes at a lot of that stuff. Not to discredit Frost's contribution to the show.

Currently reading the Wrapped In Plastic book, which collects John Thorne's stuff from WIP magazine. Not nearly as many half-baked theories as I was expecting and the episode guides are nice to read after a re-watch. A lot of info on deleted scenes that show different directions TP could have gone in.

Got a set of Blue Rose magazines which I have yet to really dive into.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:28 (four years ago) link

I really love Lynch/Twin Peaks but you guys seem completely mad

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:30 (four years ago) link

I mean that as a joke, I love these posts

Dan S, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:44 (four years ago) link

Reflections: An Oral History of TP is pretty good too.

Yeah, the wife started looking at me funny when the magazines began showing up.

Cow_Art, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 02:51 (four years ago) link

The speculation about who the girl that was occupied by the moth/frog thing seems silly when it’s very close to the episode where Sarah flips her lid and fucks up that dude

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 03:38 (four years ago) link

The Freddie story I took as Lynch's superhero MCU sendup. It's tonally jarring but I think it's funny.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 03:56 (four years ago) link

Probably got the idea from those Hulk gloves that were popular a few years back.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:01 (four years ago) link

Lynch said the green glove was an idea he originally had for Jack Nance.

Chris L, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 04:50 (four years ago) link

Can confirm that a #TwinPeaks production member whose name appears in the opening credits told me that they "don’t comment on rumour". And followed that statement with a WINK emoji.

— TwinPeaks S4 podcast? (@TPSeason3) October 3, 2019

YouGov to see it (wins), Friday, 4 October 2019 09:59 (four years ago) link

A lot of info on deleted scenes that show different directions TP could have gone in.

― Cow_Art, Wednesday, October 2, 2019 3:28 AM

Any particularly interesting ones?

Robert Adam Gilmour, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

In case anyone is stuck for a way to close out the decade, I reckon starting pt17 at about 22:05 would get you “what year is this” at around midnight

Baby yoda laid an egg (wins), Tuesday, 31 December 2019 21:49 (four years ago) link


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