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So Sanka rhymes with Tonka.

Also just noticed that I say Sank-uh, but also San-tuh.

pplains, Monday, 30 September 2019 22:01 (four years ago) link

The combover

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LqhvJrcMV9c

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Monday, 30 September 2019 22:06 (four years ago) link

new fella at my barbers seems to be tryin to push me in this or a similar direction i dunno how to break it to him that i had a bald patch before he was born ill be ok like

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Monday, 30 September 2019 22:29 (four years ago) link

So apparently disgusting Americans pronounce "flaccid" with a hard C

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 05:41 (four years ago) link

I've never heard anyone pronounce it like that.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 06:44 (four years ago) link

Wtf

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 07:10 (four years ago) link

Both pronunciations exist on both sides of the pond, it seems. I agree that the hard C is gross.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link

oh right, looks like the trendy haircut is spelt as 2 words.. Still sounds the same when said though. Foun dit odd when it was said in a class I was in last week as a haircut the teacher was giving people.

https://haircutinspiration.com/comb-over-haircut/

https://media.haircutinspiration.com/photos/20181204005531/comb-over-blackfishbry-500x649.jpg

Stevolende, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 08:17 (four years ago) link

we were talking coffee and wondering if Sanka was still around. it is. and for the first time i wondered about the name and realized it was a portmanteau for sans caffeine. the (american) pronunciation of sank-uh threw me all these many years.

I never know how to say "sans" as in "sans serif" out loud, like in Comic Sans or whatever. If I (try to) pronounce it in a French manner it sounds kind of like... just a weird meaningless sound in an English sentence. If I say "sanz" I feel like an uncultured barbarian. Help!

Are we counting the x (-ks-, hard then soft) pronunciation of flaccid as hard? It always sounds weird to me because I usually hear it to rhyme with "placid" but iirc it's technically correct and I can't think of any other -cci-/-cce- words which don't use that sound. Well, not since I finally realised how to pronounce e.g. Occitan and occidental a few years ago at an embarrassingly old age.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 08:33 (four years ago) link

All the letterpress people I hang about with say sanz, and I just copy them.

Thinking about it, though, comic sans pronounced to rhyme with Fonz would be excellent.

Tim, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 08:56 (four years ago) link

I know one letterpress person and they're the opposite of an uncultured barbarian so I'll go with that, then. Hooray.

Rhymes-with-Fonz seems theoretically more comprehensible than a nasal sound with a silent final s, but I think that's the compromise I've ended up with after chickening out of the silent s at the last moment, and can confirm that nobody has ever known what the hell I've been talking about.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link

https://forvo.com/word/sans_serif/#en

TopQuark otm

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:33 (four years ago) link

GraB otm

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:37 (four years ago) link

Shit, I pronounce it sonn suh-reef, I am a pretentious twat. Not sure I've ever had cause to say it loud though so I've probably got away with it.

Stockhausen Serves Empirical Jism (Matt #2), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link

how else would anyone say it? that's literally the way to say it

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link

mind you, i say 'Comic SANZ' so... bully for me

frame casual (dog latin), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 09:49 (four years ago) link

In French, “sonn”. In typography, “sanz”, even if you are a French typographer. No exceptions.

an incoherent crustacean (MatthewK), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:14 (four years ago) link

Hmm…

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:17 (four years ago) link

son exception

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:19 (four years ago) link

yo is it true frogs got sonned by a typo kid after a sans sebeef??????

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:20 (four years ago) link

Pretty sure Shakespeare pronounced it "sanz"

honk hunk blue (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:44 (four years ago) link

Those alternative forms are delicious:

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/saunz

pomenitul, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 10:52 (four years ago) link

sanz kant danz

L'assie (Euler), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link

Saying Comic SANZ ... actually sorta fits the zany, anything-goes vibe of that font.

pplains, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:21 (four years ago) link

did somebody say "comic sanz"??

http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Horatio+Sanz+Celebrity+Guests+Visit+VMA+Style+4Bdj9FbbwB1l.jpg

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:26 (four years ago) link

The thing is, it's a word that comes from French, just like many English words do, but if you are speaking English to other English speakers, there's nothing wrong with giving it an English (or American) pronunciation.

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link

I don't know, most direct loan words from French involve at least an attempt at a French pronunciation. Don't they?

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link

I pronounce it ‘sans serif’ and ‘fucking awful typeface that should never be used’.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 13:01 (four years ago) link

2 more cool options for flaccid:

ch sound. fla-chid. quite the flaccid bocce bowl, my friend.

k-si sound. flak-sid. i'm accidentally flaccid!

andrew m., Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:21 (four years ago) link

most direct loan words from French involve at least an attempt at a French pronunciation

I would give you carte blanche to think that, meanwhile I will wear lingerie in Baton Rouge, Des Moines, and Coeur d'Alene. I will eat hors d'oeuvres in Paris, Texas, while painting in a trompe l'oeil style, for that is my brusque genre and my nonchalant milieu.

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link

How is Baton Rouge pronounced? I knew Americans would fuck up the pronunciations, that goes without saying.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:30 (four years ago) link

like....which of those words aint pronounced frenchlike, save paris which yknow is fairly commonly accepted either way

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

Bat'n rooj

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link

Des Moines = d'moyn

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

duh moyn

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:33 (four years ago) link

I know that one.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:34 (four years ago) link

ok imma have to hear ye say it obv

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:35 (four years ago) link

Americans do not have a monopoly on pronouncing French proper nouns and loanwords in a different manner from the source language.

Ask a British about Belvoir, Beaulieu, Beauregard, Beaufort, renaissance...

Oh but do let's hear more about American boorishness, that is such a fresh topic that one sees so rarely in the ilxosphere...

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:36 (four years ago) link

As a topic, it is pretty fresh fwiw.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:37 (four years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5doRuDeQPM

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link

now in my head i can only hear it over beats and like ‘flaCIEEEED!’

Hunt3r, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:39 (four years ago) link

but like ymp, i kinda think thats what we're saying?

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

the british are second only to the french in not pronouncing half the letters in words, imo

mh, Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

Shit, I pronounce it sonn suh-reef, I am a pretentious twat. Not sure I've ever had cause to say it loud though so I've probably got away with it.

― Stockhausen Serves Empirical Jism (Matt #2), mercredi 2 octobre 2019 04:43 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

how else would anyone say it? that's literally the way to say it

― frame casual (dog latin), mercredi 2 octobre 2019 04:48 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's how I say it too, maybe without enunciating the "n". I've heard "serif" pronounced the way the guys on Forvo do but it would never occur to me to say "sans" like "sanz" tbh.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link

waitll ye here about what words based on irish should actually sound like

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

(slurred)

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:42 (four years ago) link

The American pronunciations of names like Maurice, Bernard and Gerard are noticeably less boorish than the UK/Irish ones, for a bit of balance.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link

wait how dyou say those then

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

baurice jeansonne

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link

Pompatus

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 October 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link


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