https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/state-dept-intensifies-email-probe-of-hillary-clintons-former-aides/2019/09/28/9f15497e-e1f2-11e9-8dc8-498eabc129a0_story.html
“This has nothing to do with who is in the White House,” said a senior State Department official
― j., Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link
Yes I’mSure it doesn’t
― akm, Sunday, 29 September 2019 02:19 (four years ago) link
MEA CULPAI regret any time I spent enabling the establishment's incrementalism rather than pushing for systemic progressive change.— Peter Daou (@peterdaou) September 29, 2019
lol
― j., Monday, 30 September 2019 05:12 (four years ago) link
im gonna say dud
Hillary Clinton Defends Joe Biden After Controversy About How He Interacts with Women and Girls: 'Get Over It' https://t.co/S1V6YvTCQe— People (@people) September 29, 2019
― flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:42 (four years ago) link
whoa re daou
― k3vin k., Monday, 30 September 2019 05:55 (four years ago) link
legit astonishing
― Clay, Monday, 30 September 2019 05:58 (four years ago) link
I guess he finally surrendered himself.
― JoeStork, Monday, 30 September 2019 06:28 (four years ago) link
yeah chairman daou has been good for a while now, you love to see it tbh
― Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 30 September 2019 06:46 (four years ago) link
so he's endorsing Beto?
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 September 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link
hillary defending joe b should be surprising to exactly no one
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 30 September 2019 21:47 (four years ago) link
the Peter Daou thing is incredible to me, you never see people deeply entrenched like that just see the light so...suddenly
― frogbs, Monday, 30 September 2019 22:12 (four years ago) link
xp Sure but the way she did it 😂
― flappy bird, Monday, 30 September 2019 22:58 (four years ago) link
“We can pick apart anybody. I mean, that’s a great spectator sport. But this man who’s there in the Oval Office right now poses a clear and present danger to the future of the United States. So get over it,” Clinton said. “Look at the candidates, look at what they’ve accomplished, look at what they have fought for — and vote for anybody to get rid of Donald Trump.”
this faction is still so outraged that primaries exist
― difficult listening hour, Monday, 30 September 2019 23:00 (four years ago) link
yup. she sees only 'the good man I know' and looks right past the testimony of women who say otherwise. "get over it" could not be more dismissive.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 30 September 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link
Dauo was on some podcasts a few months ago talking very progressive stuff. The hosts were kind of like are you for real?
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 12:38 (four years ago) link
Hillary Clinton is probably the best candidate liberal democracy has to offer.
― Calpico Girlfriend (rushomancy), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
al gore
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
yeah, he was great too. picking joe lieberman as his veep was a classic consensus-building move.
― Calpico Girlfriend (rushomancy), Tuesday, 1 October 2019 15:07 (four years ago) link
https://www.out.com/transgender/2019/10/14/hillary-clinton-says-we-must-be-sensitive-transphobia
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:41 (four years ago) link
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/ComplexFatKitfox-size_restricted.gif
― NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
At first glance I thought maybe that was just another out-of-context twitter gotcha, but this is the kicker:
“There are women who'd say [to a trans woman], ‘You know what, you've never had the kind of life experiences that I've had, so I respect who you are, but don't tell me you're the same as me,’” Hillary said. “I hear that conversation all the time.”
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
"I hear that conversation all the time...in my head."
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link
she did go on a listening tour
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:56 (four years ago) link
she did essentially summarize a terf argument yes. i hear it all the time too
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 14 October 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link
wow I wonder if Hillary will survive getting cancelled
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Monday, 14 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
huge lol at this all coming out during a discussion about ‘the book of gutsy women’
― NEWS Giant penis frog didn’t have a giant penis after all (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 14 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
I mean, I hear a lot of things all the time
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 14 October 2019 20:00 (four years ago) link
people are saying
― Οὖτις, Monday, 14 October 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
Fuck off, Hillary
― Conceptualize Wyverns (latebloomer), Monday, 14 October 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
had a big fight about my wife about this, despite neither of us having any particular clue about what it was she actually said. argument turned out to have little to nothing to do with what she actually said, because, you know, what does it even fucking matter these days.
whatever, i can't even get upset at her at this point. oh god no some boomer trying to sell a book is engaging in mealy-mouthed equivocation! fine, she can be the voice of her generation's sickness, and chelsea can just shoot out death glares like "why the fuck are we even talking about this, jesus".
yeah i could be mad at her like i could be mad at my mom or i could just, you know, cut them both out of my life. and that's more what i'm trying to do.
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 01:57 (four years ago) link
At best, it looks like she’s admitting that trans issues are something boomers have ignored historically ignored and that she’s suddenly being asked to learn/have a position on something that’s new to her. Except that’s not the case: as the Out article explains, she made trans-inclusion a part of her 2016 campaign and now appears to be staking out a middle ground in order to please....who, exactly?
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link
― Maria Edgelord (cryptosicko)
oh, that's an easy one. people who want to carry the torch for "liberal democracy" and "respecting other people's opinions", who are the bulk of her target market at this point. i mean, who but hillary clinton is speaking to the struggles of the poor put-upon white cishet boomers? we all know they're the real victims of trumpism.
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 13:21 (four years ago) link
I increasingly think she is just a fucking idiothttps://www.axios.com/hillary-clinton-tulsi-gabbard-russia-d963ab0c-cd57-4f14-875b-65e63ea1781a.html
Like an idiot in the sense of a smart but non-exceptional A student who has always played by the rules and maximized every advantage she had in life and never really proven herself.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
russia could at least pick someone who has a chance to win ffs, really disappointed in putin and his team tbh
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link
an idiot in the sense of a smart but non-exceptional A student who has always played by the rules and maximized every advantage she had in life
iow, she'd make an above-average US senator.
― A is for (Aimless), Friday, 18 October 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department has completed its internal investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s use of private email and found violations by 38 people, some of whom may face disciplinary action. https://t.co/jXePKf0VuU— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) October 18, 2019
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
"absent 3rd party candidates" - you know that Gary Johnson got 3x as many votes as Stein, right? - were those votes rightfully HRC's? https://t.co/WzeDQBIMe8— Doug Henwood (@DougHenwood) October 18, 2019
― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 October 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
WASHINGTON (AP) — The State Department has completed its internal investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton’s use of private email and found violations by 38 people, some of whom may face disciplinary action.
wasn't it reported early on in the trump admin that numerous officials (including whatever Ivanka is?) were insecurely using private email as well? shouldn't they start by disciplining whoever is currently doing it? this email shit is very serious, of course
― It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 18 October 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link
russia could at least pick someone who has a chance to win ffs
― expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara)
wait, there's a lottery for facial feminization surgery? how do i enter?
i think hillary clinton is very smart but is also a boomer and for some reason almost all of the boomers are all fucking insane right now
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Saturday, 19 October 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link
almost all of the boomers are all fucking insane right now
hey, I resemble that remark!
― A is for (Aimless), Saturday, 19 October 2019 02:08 (four years ago) link
ok, it's a hacky lazy generalization (even moreso because i really just meant _white_ boomers), but over time those of who aren't boomers are slowly coming to believe it: something is just bad wrong with white boomers, something i've never seen an explanation for that i believe. sorry for my part in the latest overblown Generation War but i can't see a way to recuse myself.
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:17 (four years ago) link
I think there are lots of ways to explain why boomers are so fucked up in America. I am sure there are loads of articles on this.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:25 (four years ago) link
Yes, there are, millions, and I don't believe any of them!
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
generation of sociopaths by bruce gibeney (warning: a techbro and most likely a shitlib) is pretty instructive on this topic
(no offense aimless; lots of good boomers obv)
― A-B-C. A-Always, B-Be, C-Chooglin (will), Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link
you don't believe how vietnam fucked up so many boomers? or how women were financially and reproductively crippled before the 70s fucked them up? There are so many of of these factors. xpost
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 October 2019 00:48 (four years ago) link
i mean at some point it just became a Fall of Rome question where everybody has their reasons and hobbyhorses some of which are perfectly plausible but maybe don't explain the depth of the fucked-up-ness and some people have "novel" solutions like lead poisoning or some shit and some people say "well, actually, rome didn't fall at all, they just collectively decided they'd rather all go back to foraging and die of starvation at the age of 20", and all the answers say more about the people explaining the problem than they do about the problem, viz: white boomers are, as a generation, uniquely fucked up and dangerous.
― Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:06 (four years ago) link
oh, I am sure it's always easier to blame an earlier, not so distant generation because there are always better records documenting the triggers, like civil rights, and real life experience to relate.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:25 (four years ago) link
i don't think I responded correctly to your post on re-read. I have no clue what you are saying besides people are stupid and believe stupid things.
― Yerac, Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:29 (four years ago) link
generational talk is false consciousness encouraged by those who seek to divide you from your boomer comrades, the majority of whom suffer as you suffer; it's just not useful to think about. so it's a pity that they are already destined to be remembered forever as the genocidal narcissists who tried to take the world with them. oh well
― difficult listening hour, Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:42 (four years ago) link
btw, having witnessed society as run by the so-called Greatest Generation, they also fucked things up a fair bit, including very large amounts of racism, sexism, homophobia, and widespread, staunch support for the Vietnam War. not all of them were race-baiting, VFW, 'better-dead-than-red' types, just a considerable swath of them. You look at the March on the Pentagon and there were tens of thousands of middle-aged activists against the Vietnam War; they just weren't in strong enough numbers to win many elections.
― A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 20 October 2019 01:45 (four years ago) link