even more quiddities and agonies of the ruling class - a new rolling new york times thread

these underwears don't feel good to touch should i buy themmmmm

And while jeans tend to come in heavier fabric weights...

... than t-shirts?? This whole article is just bananas and amazing, i think it was written and edited by undercover Martians and is just a front for some kind of invasion

link stopped working. Maybe they realized "this is the stupidest shit ever" and took it down?

no it's live.

On average, each American produces about 75 pounds of textile waste per year.

I guess a few times a year we take a couple of garbage bags worth of clothing to salvation army, and that could easily add up to 75lbs or more, but that's a family of four with two growing kids.

i probably threw out four pairs of underwear and three pairs of socks last year

i'd like to see the median, but "on average"...

https://harmony1.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/textile-recycling-issues.png

I likely could go the rest of my life without having to buy any new clothes or shoes.

these underwears don't feel good to touch should i buy themmmmm

"sometimes things that are expensive... are worse"

Guys what the fuck is the Times doing publishing any information about the whistleblower, and what the fuck is the Times doing making articles about “swing voters” who they’ve interviewed before about being Trump voters

You’re wrong. NYT does pay attention to subscriber cancellations. It’s one of the metrics for “outrage” that they take to distinguish between “real” outrage and superficial outrage. What subscribers say can back up dissenting views inside the paper about what it should do and be.

— sarah jeong (@sarahjeong) September 27, 2019

cancel your subscription!

i regret that i have just one subscription to cancel (and did so six weeks ago)

I took the opposite perspective (on Twitter) and attempted to offer a positive spin:

Fire Dean Baquet, Maggie Haberman, Maureen Dowd, David Brooks, Ross Douthat, Bret Stephens, Bari Weiss, and Frank Bruni and I'll consider a subscription.

you forgot james bennet

Reasons for cancelling: "It will genuinely be a relief to read news other than 'incredibly wealthy people wear rat dresses/think they're middle-class/are confused by jeans.'"

counterpoint to cancelling via columbia journalism review

Yesterday evening, the picture shifted. The Times reported that the White House knew the whistleblower was a CIA officer before the paper published that fact. The idea that the paper had “outed” him to his bosses seemed suddenly to have been mistaken. As CNN’s Brian Stelter noted in his newsletter, the new information “takes some of the heat off the NYT, for sure.” The words “We also understand that the White House already knew he was a CIA officer” have been appended to Baquet’s quote in the Times’s story. (The timing seems murky, though, as that line is absent from the Reader Center version of his statement.) The case for publication looks stronger now than it did before that detail was shared. Other arguments against the paper’s decision—for example, that the whistleblower’s identity isn’t newsworthy—don’t add up.

The debate over what the Times published yesterday is nuanced and complicated—far more so than an outraged reaction on Twitter allows. By the end of the day, the hashtag #CancelNYT, now familiar, was trending. It seems likely that the uproar stemmed more from a general sense of rage at the Times, and less from genuine concern for the whistleblower’s wellbeing.

and an argument for subscribing to Dagens ETC instead
https://www.etc.se/ledare/swedish-newspaper-dagens-etc-now-we-will-reject-all-fossil-fuel-ads

I agreed with this in the Guardian though: Danielle Brian, the executive director of the not-for-profit watchdog Project On Government Oversight, argued that the move was unnecessary because the whistleblower’s credibility “was already stabilized by the Inspector General and the Department of National Intelligence”, which recognized the complaint as urgent and credible. “We didn’t need the New York Times to tell us what agency this person came from,” Brian said.

the White House being able to deduce the individual's identity and react isn't the only way harm can come to a person?

exactly! what a weird take

Other arguments against the paper’s decision—for example, that the whistleblower’s identity isn’t newsworthy—don’t add up.

i'll guess I'll take your word for it??

not nyt but you have to be fucking kidding me
https://pix11.com/2019/10/05/if-this-queens-woman-stays-off-her-phone-for-an-entire-year-shell-win-100000/

god this is bleak https://t.co/NazYIJ70pD pic.twitter.com/opFU9HGDu4

— b-boy bouiebaisse (@jbouie) October 17, 2019

Some hit their number and some went bust, but Silicon Valley is more than ever a showcase for the unfettered capitalism of 2019.

Yet no one seems to talk about their number anymore,

I have an acquaintance who's a CEO and is rich. He talks about his number plenty, and plans to sell and retire in his 50s. I feel like article is determined to evade the fundamental fact that the particular slice of rich people they're talking about actually care about and value the work they do, well beyond its at-this-point-minimal effect on their ability to consume. Why does Lady Gaga keep writing and recording songs? I guess it's... because she still has songs she wants to write? I have friends who are highly-paid doctors and they seem to truly see their skills as valuable and useful and want to keep operating on people. The hedge-fund dudes, they're just playing a game they like playing. Asking "why don't they quit?" is like asking why people don't quit playing Fortnite.

While for people like my friend, who work jobs that generate money but are not particularly meaningful to them, it's the same as always; you do the work to get the money, and when you have all the money you'll ever need, you quit.

I'll bet there are more rich people like my friend than like Lady Gaga.

Stock Broker #1: If I ever made $10 million, I'd quit.

Stock Broker #2: That's why you'll never make $10 million.

But... stockbroker #2 is just wrong, right?

Occurs to me that I have another friend who made her money in tech -- cashed out her stock a decade ago and she's been retired ever since, does what she likes, travels a lot, etc. I just don't believe the article's assertion that this is something that doesn't happen anymore, or even something that's gotten rarer!

Yet no one seems to talk about their number anymore

key word: 'seems'. it tips you off that the writer did zero research to back it up.

best line about this from succession

“You can’t do anything with five, Greg. Five’s a nightmare: You can’t retire, not worth it to work.” https://t.co/PaSyh2XPTC

— choire 🚲 (@Choire) October 17, 2019

man i wish i could eat transcendent meaning

peyote iirc

wow for his new book tour Joel Stein has apparently subsumed every infuriating story in this thread and emerged with superpowers of insufferability

complete w "satirical" monocle and smoking jacket (actually!) to throw you off the stench

subhed of today's story about haiti: "political struggle brings violence and stagnation to impoverished haiti"

really? it was the 'political struggle' that did that?

midway through the story American involvement is sketched: 'During the Cold War, American governments supported - albeit at times grudgingly - the authoritarian governments of François Duvalier and his son, Jean-Claude Duvalier, because of their anti-Communist stance.'

really dog???

BREAKING

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHhz0EpXUAAjl5l.jpg

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/027/463/Screen_Shot_2018-10-24_at_11.08.29_AM.jpg

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/21/realestate/how-to-be-an-expatriate-in-2020.html

I take satisfaction in knowing that the NY Times will probably preserve its links for a long time, and that even if everything beyond the first graf of this article ^ gets hidden behind a paywall that is really all you need

we should seize the domestic jobs of all expats

i am shocked - SHOCKED - that they are a comms specialist and a graphic designer

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ESMj9gQWkAEfY8G?format=jpg&name=large

wow

What a pose xp

from his firm's site :

Venky believes strongly in giving back to the community. He is the former chair of the National Venture Capital Association (NVCA), was a Trustee of Keys School, and past President of the Indian Community Center in Milpitas.

lonely venture capitalist just thinking baout socialism

He hasn't made it totally to life coaching/financial advice book deal yet where he has his arms fully crossed.

The National Venture Capital Association (NVCA) empowers the next generation of American companies that will fuel the economy of tomorrow.

As the voice of the U.S. venture capital and startup community, NVCA advocates for public policy that supports the American entrepreneurial ecosystem.

when you talk about giving back to the community, you must talk about the NVCA

#inspiring

#community #ecosystem #empowered

As I threw, I started to understand the appeal, and why competitive ax-throwing leagues had grown across the country in the last few years. Ax-throwing is social, uncomplicated and therapeutic, and beginners are folded in with encouragement.

Entry isn’t expensive, or demanding (Mo’s charges $35 a person for an hour and 15 minutes of throwing time, with optional instruction included).

https://nyti.ms/2x3WOOa