Is Donald J Trump a psychopath?

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Other than that it’s flawless. The clues about his outfit and the rug color, which were also possible notes of discrepancy, weren’t convincing to me. I think he just took off his tie and jacket.

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link

Ashley Feinberg is a great reporter btw.

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:34 (four years ago) link

https://compote.slate.com/images/41a6d2d0-157a-4ef9-be74-a0a34f138794.gif

This is the water,
and this is the well.
Drink full and descend."

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:42 (four years ago) link

Yeah also the video is terrifying and lynchian

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

As is trump himself to be fair

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link

Lynchian (however worn out) def applies here.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 September 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

He is, to rephrase what Jimmy Breslin said about Giuliani, a little man in search of his own death squad.

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 September 2019 19:00 (four years ago) link

From NBC News about that Trump appearance before the staff of the UN Amb.

"A US official and another person briefed on the meeting by multiple people in attendance confirms the authenticity of the LA Times audio and what was said by Trump..."

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 26, 2019


"...this morning. The person briefed said that many of the diplomats in the room took particular offense because there were children in the audience and it was supposed to be a family-friendly event..."

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 26, 2019


"Instead, the kids there saw Trump talking ominously about treason and spies and how we need to be rougher on people."

— Chris Hayes (@chrislhayes) September 26, 2019

(•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link

an unsentimental education

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

Traumatizing children is all in a day's work for our president. Look at his own kids.

A is for (Aimless), Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:44 (four years ago) link

didn't his speech to the Boy Scouts include a line about the sex n' coke boat parties he used to go to

also didn't he tell a 7-year old "you don't still believe in Santa do you?" over Christmastime

I'd feel bad for Barron but somehow I doubt Trump could pick him out of a lineup

frogbs, Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

re: pee tape the renovation seems to close the case but both of these are pretty dumb

“The fact that his torso is completely motionless is a bit of a red flag that they purposely had an actor sit there motionless to easily composite a head back on"

excuse me have you seen the president before?

“filming a handheld video of another video playing on a screen absolutely destroys the quality, and is exactly the kind of thing you’d do to intentionally obscure detail and sell a fake.”

it's also exactly what asldkhfbldb oh nm

The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:54 (four years ago) link

He’s a human obscenity

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

I need to look more carefully to see how different the renovations are. If it’s just the bed facing the wring way, that’s not necessarily a dealbreaker. The hotel could have been playing with the decor—moving things around as they planned the next renovation. These 18k suites aren’t occupied every night.

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

I think it could still be real.

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

The body language of the guy in the video seemed like Trump to me. Whoever made this made a real effort to get the details right.

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:02 (four years ago) link

man you are a trip

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

All I’m saying is I accept the conclusions of Ashley Feinberg. It’s likely not real. But it’s a weirdly convincing fake.

treeship., Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:06 (four years ago) link

lol that is not all you are saying but whatev

A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

yeah that's a much more realistic video than what I expected to flow out. Good job, deep state!

akm, Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:10 (four years ago) link

It's not convincing.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:12 (four years ago) link

all we are saying is give peetape a chance

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link

i thought it was likely that some fake pee tapes would get made, and this is likely one of them. really well done though. probably shot in the same hotel.

wasdnuos (abanana), Friday, 27 September 2019 01:00 (four years ago) link

It appears that there’s a single soft white source directly above our subjects, somewhere on the ceiling between 45 and the buttocks,”

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 September 2019 01:29 (four years ago) link

lol that is not all you are saying but whatev

― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Thursday, September 26, 2019 5:08 PM bookmarkflaglink

All that he's saying... is give pee a chance

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Friday, 27 September 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link

I thought there was always the thought that the original peetape could be a fake itself and mainly a commonly shared hope taht there was a real genuinely recorded tape that would be in circulation at some unspecified point in the future.
THough not sure if somebody would make a fake and not circulate it shortly afterwards i.e. 2016ish though it has always been something that was supposed to exist so that they had something to dangle just out of t's reach.

JUst realised this week that the trip that the peetape was supposed to be made on was 2013. Thought it was thought to be later.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 September 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link

What was that quote from the Watergate era about a steady "drip, drip, drip" of new revelations?

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 27 September 2019 10:31 (four years ago) link

man you are a trip

'treeship's peetrip'. limited release soon.

Frederik B, Friday, 27 September 2019 11:36 (four years ago) link

Ok new theory: Team Trump created a deepfake themselves, so as to sow disinformation and doubt if the real tape ever surfaces. If there are multiple tapes in circulation no one will be able to say which is real.

Sort of an "I am Splurtacus" situation.

Instant Carmax (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 27 September 2019 14:51 (four years ago) link

eesh trip

all over bar the shouting (im here for the shouting) (darraghmac), Friday, 27 September 2019 14:59 (four years ago) link

that’s basically what ashley feinberg’s slate article proposes xp

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 27 September 2019 15:01 (four years ago) link

Yeah. The story is—the fake was weirdly good. They even filmed it in the same hotel room.

treeship., Friday, 27 September 2019 15:04 (four years ago) link

Sort of an "I am Splurtacus" situation.

Not Spartapiss?

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 27 September 2019 16:00 (four years ago) link

Ok new theory: Team Trump created a deepfake themselves, so as to sow disinformation and doubt if the real tape ever surfaces. If there are multiple tapes in circulation no one will be able to say which is real.

do we really think they're smart enough to do this? have they been able to lie convincingly about anything?

frogbs, Friday, 27 September 2019 16:03 (four years ago) link

I think this was made in 2016 by the russian government and that this is the tape steele was told about. All the russiagate nerds used to talk about how Putin would make fake “kompramat” all the time.

treeship., Friday, 27 September 2019 16:19 (four years ago) link

My intuition suggested that the tape was made by Team Trump themselves, but I was too embarrassed at the extent of my conspiracy theorizing to feel comfortable about expressing it here.

It might seem to make zero sense, except for this reason: the issue with Peetape was less that "Donald Trump might be into piss stuff" and more that "Putin has leverage here"; getting a fake tape out to non-credible sources would obfuscate the situation significantly and also remove any "Putin has leverage" narrative.

fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link

getting a fake tape out to non-credible sources would obfuscate the situation significantly and also remove any "Putin has leverage" narrative.

Evidence suggests that the sophistication of Trump's idea of protecting himself from outside threats has never risen past the level of sending threatening letters from his shyster lawyer or else sending hired goons to threaten physical violence. I'm not sure why he'd suddenly get so much more cunning, devious and sophisticated about it.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 27 September 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

I was wondering what story would be on a totally fabricated peetape since the leverage thing is central. Presumably means you would need to show it to a limited audience who would leak out word of its existence. Since you wouldn't be able to rely on the memory nagging on the film subject's mind.
Rumour needs to get out to such an extent that weight of rumour outweighs 'victim's chance of dispelling its supposed existence.
& everybody already wants to think the worst of Trump which might undermine the weight of the threat since he's got little good name to besmirch.

Stevolende, Friday, 27 September 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link

you could just make a second peepee tape, Trump is absolutely dumb enough to get caught again

frogbs, Friday, 27 September 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link

Oooh like a sequel?

fgti (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

a peequel

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link

There's a reason they're so horny to depress voter turnout. They know that if all the dems actually show up and vote for dem candidates, they're toast.

Steampunk wasn't in my vocapulary 6 days ago. (Old Lunch), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

I swear to god I am going to Lawnmower Man my through through the internet and manifest in the room of the next person who makes a pee tape joke so I can drop elbows

brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:49 (four years ago) link

(I'll save the impeechment joke for another time then)

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:50 (four years ago) link

wait a minute, dip, I'm a peeceful man

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link

djp (fucking autocorrect)

☮ (peace, man), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:54 (four years ago) link

it doesn't take a whiz to know that trump's looking out for number one

(The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 27 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

To show you how dishonest the LameStream Media is, I used the word Liddle’, not Liddle, in discribing Corrupt Congressman Liddle’ Adam Schiff. Low ratings @CNN purposely took the hyphen out and said I spelled the word little wrong. A small but never ending situation with CNN!

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 27, 2019

hyphen? does he think an apostrophe is used after something to indicate it's cutesy or misspelled and not shortened? Liddle?

so much and so little going on here

mh, Friday, 27 September 2019 20:05 (four years ago) link

I just remembered that he is a rapist

treeship., Friday, 27 September 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link

Wish he could be impeached for that

treeship., Friday, 27 September 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link


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