he'll just continue doing this - ramping up the culture war with a bannon-style "let them call you racist, wear it as badge of honour" strategy. this could be effective if the opposition get sucked into the same 'sir have you no honour' trap the US democrats fell into - party needs to keep on hammering their transformative and inspiring policies
people will have a genuine choice at the next election. let's hope they don't choose the bunch of hard right head banging libertarian types with a prospectus for singapore-on-sea
― stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:04 (four years ago) link
Latest @Survation poll, 25 September (changes since GE17):Con 27% (-17)Lab 24% (-17)LD 22% (+14)BXP 16% (+16)[My seat estimate]Con 286 (-31)Lab 243 (-19)SNP 51 (+16)LD 45 (+33)BXP 1 (+1)Oth 24 (-)Tories & DUP: 296 (-31)All other MPs: 346 (+32)— Stats for Lefties đč đč (@LeftieStats) September 25, 2019
It may seem astonishing that Labour could outpoll the Lib Dems by just 2pts and win 198 more seats. But bear in mind that, in 1983, Labour won 26.8% in England. The SDP-Liberal Alliance won 26.4%.Labour won 148 seats. The Alliance won 14.
But bear in mind that, in 1983, Labour won 26.8% in England. The SDP-Liberal Alliance won 26.4%.
Labour won 148 seats. The Alliance won 14.
yeah! eat them fucking stats Swinson LibDems with pretensions of majority government.
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:07 (four years ago) link
Ian Murray: âIf he doesn't get a deal through this House, or a no-deal through this House, by 19 October, will he seek an extension from the EU to 31 January?âPM: âNo.â— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) September 25, 2019
― stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link
resigning then. good
― stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
Stats4Lefties predictions always seem ridic pessimistic to me but perhaps they should be.
― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link
dan hodges.... otm?https://mobile.twitter.com/lewis_goodall
― stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:21 (four years ago) link
I think the referendum result has to be respected. But at any price? Literally nothing else matters? The rule of law. Basic decency towards the family and friends of a murdered MP. Respect for our fundamental principles and institutions. By any means necessary now?— (((Dan Hodges))) (@DPJHodges) September 25, 2019
3 hours 46 minutes pic.twitter.com/ogqzrWPKakâ a a dril (@demarionunn) September 25, 2019
Life comes at you fast.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:22 (four years ago) link
xxp if you add the "coalition of chaos" seats from the SNP it looks a much more optimistic picture. Please please come to your senses and go back to voting for the tories Dan!
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link
ordinarily him resigning in humiliation would be that but all the laws of political gravity seem to be in temporary suspension. could still be quite a dangerous moment for the opposition - presume he would lead CONs into imminent GE, standing on an âI tried I really did but these frustrated us at every turn / I am brexit 4realâ platform. still donât see how that builds enough of a coalition but havenât looked at the numbers closely granted
― stoffle (||||||||), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:28 (four years ago) link
all the laws of political gravity seem to be in temporary suspension.
it's very unsettling.
'today the vice president threw the minority leader through a table and fractured her collarbone'
'yes, but ACTUALLY, i know it seems dramatic but has anything actually CHANGED as a result of this?'
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:48 (four years ago) link
I wonder if any letters went to the 1922 tonight. BH etc etc
― stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:53 (four years ago) link
It's weird how little you hear 1922 getting mentioned during such dramatic events etc.
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
well not weird .. just predictable.
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
Mail has buried more than one news line in its polls, these are some interesting numbers. https://twitter.com/sundersays/status/1176997880286130176?s=21
― stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:18 (four years ago) link
link doesn't work
― calzino, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:24 (four years ago) link
An distressing amount of this depends on the inside of Nigel Farage's head.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:32 (four years ago) link
I misread that, sorry 51% of voters think Johnson should resign (23% of Conservatives)41% of voters think he should not resign (73% of Conservatives)It does not feature in the news report writethrough https://t.co/ITU8kXWGSV— Sunder Katwala (@sundersays) September 25, 2019
― stet, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:42 (four years ago) link
James 'Genius' Cleverley explaining that all sides are using shorthand, the Labour Party are calling the bill the Benn Bill, which is not its actual name, and the Prime Minister is calling it the Surrender Bill. So that's all right then.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:27 (four years ago) link
ICONIC reaction shot here from âŠ@LaylaMoranâ© âŠâŠ@BarryGardinerâ© and âŠ@Sandbachâ© on @BBCNewsnightâ© just now (đ đđ studio director for catching it!) #newsnight pic.twitter.com/SxAVpG60XP— Maya Rostowska (@maya_rstw) September 25, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:42 (four years ago) link
It's started this morning, a succession of poor old middle aged male Tory MPs pointing out that the abuse they are getting is every bit as bad and distressing... apparently.
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:44 (four years ago) link
tfw fred b does a post
Giffed it pic.twitter.com/W6KWIFgYj8— Ed Brown (@Edsbrown) September 25, 2019
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 06:45 (four years ago) link
I'm not buying any of this "we need to be nicer to each other" rinse from Brendan Cox earlier. Politics has been adversarial and tribal in this country as far I can remember and that isn't the issue. The issue is a conservative government that has gone to the far right and courted extreme elements of the far right with their policies, tone, language etc being civil to nazis doesn't solve anything.
― calzino, Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:07 (four years ago) link
yes - melt. next
DA disappointingly cautious when quizzed re new immigration position
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:09 (four years ago) link
wonder if cummings has seen some internal polling after this intervention thatâs driving this strategy
Totally unprecedented to see a Conservative Prime Minister blaming their own failures on specific MPs using a poisonous and wildly irresponsible public vs Parliament framing. pic.twitter.com/yEtz23ewtC— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) September 25, 2019
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:12 (four years ago) link
Letâs pause to remember Brendan Cox has a few boundaries issues with women, too. In future we should probably seek comment from Joâs sister, who stepped up to run the Jo Cox Foundation when he had to stand down.
― coup de twat (suzy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:13 (four years ago) link
(xp) No doubt about it, I would have thought. "It worked for Trump, Boris is doing the right thing" according to an unnamed Tory MP (according to a Sky correspondent).
― Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:14 (four years ago) link
either berger has completely drunk the kool-aid or the LDs have some properly EXTRAORDINARY internal polling for finchley
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:53 (four years ago) link
looks like it will make the seat a labour gain tho so thatâs good
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 07:54 (four years ago) link
I wouldnât bet against her tbh.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:00 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFX3kL-XUAAM8Iv?format=jpg&name=small
that would take a huge swing
― calzino, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:03 (four years ago) link
xxxp Jewish chronicle says the latter
― gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:06 (four years ago) link
presumably take 6k off each CONS and LAB which would put it solidly in three-way horse territory - could also bring out some personal vote due to her treatment (ie bullying) in recent times. might be right - def must be in play else she wouldnât be parachuting in
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:10 (four years ago) link
She could get the swing, imo.
A lot of the Tory voters are fairly well-to-do Asians who are likely to be suspicious of Johnson but not likely to flip to Labour. There's a large (20%+) Jewish community that may be receptive to a young Jewish 'campaigner against anti-semitism'. There's also an increasing gentrification which probably serves the LDs well.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:12 (four years ago) link
The responses to this story are from angry voters worried sheâll take votes away from the Tories and let Labour in. Idt itâs fair to say sheâs âparachutedâ in when sheâs got a home in the area and was raised in London, not to put scare quotes around âcampaigner against antisemitismâ.
― gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:26 (four years ago) link
fair
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:30 (four years ago) link
Sheâs from Wembley. I think sheâll take Jewish Tory votes for sure, because they are not Brexity.
― coup de twat (suzy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:31 (four years ago) link
an aside: https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/25/wrightbus-goes-into-administration-1400-jobs-routemaster-northern-ireland
(maker of the boris bus)
― koogs, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:37 (four years ago) link
she'll take Jewish Tory votes for sure, because they are not Brexity
not in my wembley-adjacent jewish family, unfortunately
― Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:41 (four years ago) link
She's also now fairly recognisable and popular among the electorate, certainly by CUK standards. Depends on who the other parties put up against her but I wouldn't bet against her getting that swing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 26 September 2019 08:52 (four years ago) link
3rd govt source: âIâve renamed my imaginary dog âLabour support the surrender actâ. Unfortunately heâs gone missing so Iâve spent the morning running around east London having to shout âLabour support the surrender actâ. I do hope they donât find this offensiveâ— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) September 26, 2019
Good lord theyâre clearly mining ILX for memes.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link
Normal country
This is truly disturbing.These ads promoting Brexit & Boris Johnson were beamed onto the digital noticeboards of primary schools across the country today, apparently by a private contractor. Who made/paid for them? How is this remotely acceptable?https://t.co/0jSp20d8CT pic.twitter.com/OaKzELuPDf— Tom Scott (@Tom___Scott) September 25, 2019
― gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:34 (four years ago) link
Baggymp is now listeninghttps://www.last.fm/user/baggympHave we discussed his shoutbox? Cos itâs amazing
― gyac, Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:35 (four years ago) link
The adverts are completely nuts but itâs also fairly alarming there are digital notice boards run by private advertising contractors in primary schools in the first place.
― ShariVari, Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:38 (four years ago) link
xp he makes me want to stop liking music that i do like :(
― Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:40 (four years ago) link
fucking hell, bring back the old duster and chalkboards ffs!
― calzino, Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:41 (four years ago) link
donât want to think about baggympâs shoutbox
― stoffle (||||||||), Thursday, 26 September 2019 09:42 (four years ago) link
extremely otm on both counts, this is seriously dystopian shit
― Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:24 (four years ago) link
Children of Klan
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:36 (four years ago) link
Truly appalling stuff last night. Just catching up before I'm off to the dentist but the extraction of a molar is a doozy compared to BJ's new lows.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 26 September 2019 10:38 (four years ago) link