PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

just the one, mind

actually i'm sure boris has read lots of books, he's just failed to understand them

Incidentally, wasn't Prometheus chained to a crag in the Caucasus rather than in the underworld (Tartarus)?

Johnson likes to say sentences 'with striking imagery' and vocab (olden days words, vivid adjectives) to compensate for the behavioural idiocy. Kinda like if Trump if he'd read a book.

― nashwan, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 08:41 (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

:/

Back when Occupy was a thing I remember our classicist mayor BJ failing Ancient Greek Stuff 101 when he didn’t accept that ‘agora’ was a marketplace of ideas and not just goods.

his awful shtick is strictly for people who find Richard Curtis joints so hilarious, most of the struggling proletariat from the shitholes think he's a horrible posho twat and a crashing bore short of a good fucking shoeing. Hence his well documented difficulties campaigning in northern marginals recently.

When Prometheus brought fire to mankind. In a tube of fennel, as you may remember,

Is there a name for this rhetorical device? It's kinda passive aggressively (?) reminding us that he's more intelligent than we are (?) - i.e. of course most of us don't remember, as didn't learn about Greek mythology at school.

The Oxbridge aside iirc.

that’s not to say that he doesn’t come out with genuine word salad - cognitive and verbal - sometimes, but most of the time he does *communicate*.

― Fizzles,

Trump is a highly effective communicator. A lot of the stuff he is picked up over is irrelevant (shades of that "your going to the camps" tweet). Then some walking sheet of paper comes on and you can't remember a single word they said because the communicated nothing.

Trump also knows how to read a room. Pretending he doesnt have these skills is the dumb thing

Classical Greek is his primary area of academic expertise, so it's a very specialised and easily seen-through play if so xxp

telegraph was an amusing read this morning columnist after columnist lined up to say that 'the people' won't stand for this etc etc always a balm to dip into its pages after a time away just when i'm starting to get annoyed at remain media almost handwaving away the result of the referendum and get reminded that in telegraph land they genuinely seem to think leave won with 80% of the vote.

isn't there some Aesop fable about a showboating bore who get's beaten to death with a lump hammer?

telegraph land they genuinely seem to think leave won with 80% of the vote.

― oscar bravo,

Leave won with 80% of the Telegraph vote

When he did the speech about painting buses as a hobby everyone thought it was deranged but it turned out to work to deflect search engines from his awful Boris buses and by extension other mayoral disasters so maybe there’s something similar happening here.

xps to self
I was thinking of The Fox and the Stork(er)!

he's a human chaff grenade

A people's vote you say? I thought you were for revoke? This is very confusing. Someone explain to me in three words. https://t.co/B8JtMBH1al

— Sinan Kose (@TheSinanKose) September 24, 2019

Trump is literally being impeached over a phone call he failed to explain away, so I'd say we should probably hold off the 'effective communicator' judgments just a little bit. There is a reason most politicians sound like a piece of paper.

Yeah all this stuff is entirely about firing up the right-wing/Brexit ultra/gammon vote, in his mind it doesn't matter how it looks to anyone else.

Unfortunately for him it does matter because you can't win an election with those voters alone, and it's impossible for any PM to actually do their job when they're pissing off virtually everyone they need to deal with.

nothing confusing at all about the LibDems "cancel a 50/nah people's vote instead/maybe government of national unity?/just anything but corbyn's evil labour because ppl with cystic fibrosis shouldn't have access to affordable medicine" stance

Just before the madness we're all stoked for:

Meeting of Labour Against the Witch-hunt with Jackie Walker, Ken Livingstone and Chris Williamson is packed pic.twitter.com/4UwC8c5BGV

— Rachel Wearmouth (@REWearmouth) September 24, 2019

pom correct abt the caucasus and bojo is wrong abt tartarus -- tho having said if i recall my robert graves greek myths correctly,
(a) very often the myths had variant or overlapping versions*
(b) several mythological spaces were located more geographically than madey-uppily in some of the versions

*e.g. the wikipedia entry on tartarus mentions a giant called tityos whose liver was eaten by vultures (for attempted rape, at hera's behest, of zeus squeeze leto, mother of apollo and artemis) -- i doubt BJ is misremembering this, but i think he is mentally misfiling filing prometheus alongside e.g. sisyphus and tantalus

that's his main shtick and he can't even get it right, that's what too much stella artemis does to you kids.

and as we all know, prometheus should be filed alongside your alien quadrilogy blu-ray box set

in the bin

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Trump is an extremely effective communicator and there’s no point pretending he isn’t. He knows what will grab attention and divert it from whatever he doesn’t want being talked about, his ideas are awful but they’re conveyed simply enough to be instantly memorable, and he is extremely good at Twitter.

What he REALLY meant is that the crag is Tartarus-like, you allegorically-challenged pissant peasants. Another win for our philosopher-king.

The fact he might be impeached over a phone call (he probably won't) doesn't mean Trump isn't effective at cutting through to people.

Trump is a reliable goalscorer capable 25-30 goals a season. The fact he got dispossessed over this phone call thing doesn't change that, regardless of whether the impeachers even get anywhere with it, which seems unlikely

Good at playing to a crowd, bad at intrigue. I don't see a contradiction there.

Now that everything is a metaphor for Brexit, take a minute to enjoy Thomas Bernhard's story Disappointed Englishman from The Voice Imitator (1978). pic.twitter.com/vN0Ah7Whar

— Andy Miller (@i_am_mill_i_am) September 25, 2019

All these things he's effective at are because he finds them very easy to do without much work required. That's the difference.

Raw talent, you can't coach it

The remaining motions are being moved at Labour conference today, including the immigration one.

Cllr Dora Dixon-Fyle speaking in favour of the immigration motion at #Lab19: there are "legitimate concerns" about immigration - people are concerned about being locked up, denied basic social care and a basic democratic voice because of punitive immigration policy 👏👏👏👏

— Maya Goodfellow (@MayaGoodfellow) September 25, 2019

katy balls w the blistering take that BJ’s humiliation is good actually

good re labour immigration motion - let’s end the dog whistle triangulation on that please

FFS at that labour against the witch hunt event

chuck a grenade into that witch hunt event, pure trash the lot of them.

I see Sky are running helicopter coverage of Boris’s convoy, like he’s OJ or something

white bojo

All this and Grant Shapps on Thomas Cook too

There will be five oral statements today on:

1) Thomas Cook update - Grant Shapps
2) Brexit readiness and operation yellow hammer - Michael Gove
3) Iran Update - Dominic Raab
4) Update to Parliament - PM
5) Business Statement - Leader of the House

Awaiting news in UQs

— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) September 25, 2019

And

Two UQs:
1) Joanna Cherry to ask @Geoffrey_Cox to make a statement on his legal opinion on the advice given to Her Majesty the Queen to prorogue 2) Layla Moran to ask S/S DCMS on payments made by her Dept to Hacker House, and on how her Dept manages possible conflicts of interest https://t.co/35GMwenPvK

— Labour Whips (@labourwhips) September 25, 2019

This is good not bad:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/sep/25/labour-green-new-deal

The reality is the science demands a pathway to net-zero emissions by 2030. If that isn’t possible within the current system, then it’s the system that needs to go, not the target.

so fucking glad to see this finally being discussed in the media

Move over Ugandan discussions

The American businesswoman who received thousands in public money after becoming close friends with has insisted to friends that he only visited her flat for private ‘technology’ lessons.

Jennifer Arcuri, 34 is said to have denied she had a relationship with the former mayor.

The pole-dancing ex-model explained his repeated daytime visits by saying he just wanted to ‘be hip’ and learn about computers. Married Mr Johnson, 55, faces demands to justify the public grants and favours given to the entrepreneur.

sounds legit

Labour conference passed the free movement motion!

This was the full text for anyone who hasn’t seen

Here is the final version of our motion which we are hoping to pass at #Lab19. Vote for composite 20!

👇👇🏽👇🏿 pic.twitter.com/HM0YZTFhfh

— Labour for Free Mvmt (@labfreemvmt) September 24, 2019

Excellent

That's very good.

Good! And it's not like the bigots were voting Labour anyway

*applause*