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thought the bump would be about robert hunter

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link

ok, the soundboard "seastones" that i've heard have always sounded like just the most awful crap, but i'm listening to the 1974-06-23 aud and i'm actually feeling the wall of sound from this. any other AUD tapes from this year that have some good "seastones"?

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:23 (four years ago) link

9/11/74

'phil and ned' into seastones is quite bonkers. some of the most far out stuff i've heard from them

https://archive.org/details/gd1974-09-11.sbd.unknown.4647.shnf

global tetrahedron, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link

xxp Yes, the lack of mention here about Robert Hunter's passing is surprising. His lyrics were the source of most Dead epigrams. RIP, RH.

doug watson, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link

We've been talking about it in the Robert Hunter thread.

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

OPO: Robert Hunter lyric

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:49 (four years ago) link

ah, thanks!

doug watson, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 13:53 (four years ago) link

man i tried that 1974-09-11 phil and ned -> seastones and it didn't grab me, either atonal wank or just bad space.

liked the eyes->dirt->space after it though, not a big eyes fan but thought that was a good one

next i think i'll start going through headyversion and exploring some wharf rats

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:21 (four years ago) link

5/28/77 is THE Wharf Rat imo, and 77 is far from my favorite year

J. Sam, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 23:53 (four years ago) link

Was just listening to Dicks Picks 20, September 25, 1976 at the Capital Centre. That's a nice laid back little show, at least until Lazy Lightning, which I can't get through.

☮ (peace, man), Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

I've always thought Lazy Lightning sounds like the theme song to a mid-60s sit-com

tobo73, Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link

hartford 1977-05-28 is nice (also not a '77 head), i didn't know donna could sing! also liking red rocks 1978-07-08.

Poody Mae Bubblebutt, Miss Kumquat of 1947 (rushomancy), Thursday, 26 September 2019 00:51 (four years ago) link

I listened to the first disc of Three from the Vault thinking about Robert Hunter last night. It's from the Capitol Theatre in Feb 1971. One of these days I need to check out the New Riders of the Purple Sage recording with Jerry on pedal steel from the same shows.

earlnash, Thursday, 26 September 2019 01:56 (four years ago) link

GRATEFUL DEAD: READY OR NOT

New Live Collection Features Nine Unreleased Performances From The Early ‘90s,

Presenting What The Next Grateful Dead Studio Album May Have Been

Available On CD, Double-LP, And Digitally On November 22;

Limited Edition, Colored Vinyl Version Available Exclusively At Dead.net

Unreleased Live Version Of “Lazy River Road” Available Now Digitally

The Grateful Dead may have released the band’s final studio album – Built to Last – on Halloween 1989, but that didn’t stop them from writing new songs for the following years, adding several new tracks to their live repertoire in the early ‘90s. Sadly, the group was unable to ever complete them in a studio before the death of singer/guitarist Jerry Garcia in 1995.

The world will never know what that album would have sounded like, but we do have a tantalizing idea thanks to a new collection curated by the band’s archivist David Lemieux. READY OR NOT features nine unreleased live versions of late-period Grateful Dead songs that debuted in 1992 and 1993. The collection’s tracklist reflects what might have been the band’s next official studio album following Built to Last.

READY OR NOT will be released on November 22 on CD, digital download, streaming, and as a 180-gram 2-LP set, limited to 10,000 copies. Dead.net will offer an exclusive coloured vinyl version of the 2-LP set with one red LP and one blue LP, limited to 2,000 copies. “Lazy River Road” live from Chapel Hill, North Carolina on March 25, 1993, is available now digitally.

“Ready Or Not has been a long time coming. It’s an album we've been working on for many, many years. This batch of ‘new’ Grateful Dead songs has never been compiled in one place and given its proper due as a huge part of the Dead's late-era legacy,” says Lemieux. “Many of these songs can easily stand alongside some of the Dead's oldest, most-loved songs as bona fide classics despite their short tenure in the repertoire. We've dug deep into the archive and listened to countless live versions of these songs to find the best, most definitive live performances. When the Grateful Dead were ‘on’ in their later years, their live concerts were as good as any era in their history. The nine songs on Ready Or Not exemplify how good the Dead could be in their later years of touring.”

The collection focuses on the best unreleased live versions of these late-period gems, all mastered from the original digital soundboard tapes. Recorded live between 1992 and 1995, READY OR NOT spotlights performance by the final Grateful Dead lineup: Jerry Garcia, Mickey Hart, Bill Kreutzmann, Phil Lesh, Bob Weir, and new keyboardist Vince Welnick.

Four of the album’s nine tracks originally debuted during a two-day period in February 1993, including “Lazy River Road,” “Liberty,” and “Eternity,” a song that Weir wrote with Rob Wasserman and blues legend Willie Dixon. Another was “Days Between.” This grand and achingly nostalgic Robert Hunter and Garcia composition closes the album with a version that was recorded in December 1994 at the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum.

Hunter – who worked mainly with Garcia – began writing with Weir again during this period. Two of their collaborations are featured on READY OR NOT: “Corinna” and “Easy Answers.” The album also includes “Samba In the Rain,” a song by Welnick that features Hunter’s lyrics. The album’s two remaining songs – “Way To Go Home” and “So Many Roads” – made their live debut in February 1992, just a few months before the live versions included on READY OR NOT.

READY OR NOT

CD Track Listing

“Liberty” – Madison Square Garden, New York, NY (10/14/94)

“Eternity” – The Pyramid, Memphis, TN (4/2/95)

“Lazy River Road” – Dean Smith Center, University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill, NC (3/25/93)

“Samba In The Rain” – The Omni, Atlanta, GA (3/30/95)

“So Many Roads” – Star Lake Amphitheatre, Burgettstown, PA (6/23/92)

“Way To Go Home” – Deer Creek Music Center, Noblesville, IN (6/28/92)

“Corrina” – Madison Square Garden, New York, NY (10/14/94)

“Easy Answers” – Spectrum, Philadelphia, PA (9/13/93)

“Days Between” – Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum, Oakland, CA (12/11/94)

van dyke parks generator (anagram), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:04 (four years ago) link

Interesting concept, but I'm now on Archive listening to "Samba" (a song no one ever liked) in the echoey Omni and it's dreadful, sorry.

A breezy pop-rock feel fairly typical of the mid-'80s (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

In slightly more exciting news (and far better artwork), Dave's Picks 32 will be 3/24/73 at The Spectrum.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link

I don’t get why anyone would spend $$ on that collection of new songs. If you really need to hear them they are widely available online. And several of those songs are undeniably terrible. I guess it’s cheap to produce and see who bites?

tobo73, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

aside from "days between" (and maybe "so many roads") this stuff isn't very good ... and sometimes it's very bad!

tylerw, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 19:22 (four years ago) link

In slightly more exciting news (and far better artwork), Dave's Picks 32 will be 3/24/73 at The Spectrum.

― soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, October 8, 2019 1:14 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh HELL yeah, this show has my favorite version of He's Gone, among numerous early 73 highlights

J. Sam, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:06 (four years ago) link

its a stone cold classic, for the Phil solo alone

tobo73, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:10 (four years ago) link

that ready or not album art... yikes

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Fjq0-8DUL.jpg

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link

hahaha

https://i.imgur.com/jTSYC5q.jpg

That's much better.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 20:24 (four years ago) link

yeah reminds me of the other DP with the aliens. the one with the 'close encounters' intro to st stephen. still love that one

global tetrahedron, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link

i didn't know donna could sing!

I once mistook her for Kate Bush when a housemate was playing a Dead show

sleeve, Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:26 (four years ago) link

DaP 23! Eugene 1/22/78! One of my favorite entries in the series.

(xpost)

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

I once mistook her for Kate Bush when a housemate was playing a Dead show

― sleeve

ts: donna's version of "babooshka" versus her version of "escape (the pina colada song)"

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:49 (four years ago) link

Lol

Beware of Mr. Blecch, er...what? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 00:50 (four years ago) link

Those were good. I loved the 19 cover with the wheat field.

My unofficial ranking of the Dick's art:
lightning bolt (19-24)
tape box (1-6)
mailers (26-30)
cosmic moving fractals (31-36)
fractals (13-18)
one off Dick plaque (25)
flying carpet (7-12)

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 13:59 (four years ago) link

Agreed!

☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 9 October 2019 15:33 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

The new Dave's Picks 32 confirming that there are still loads of great '73 shows to be mined. You know it's a good show when Phil pretty much nails the "Box of Rain" vocals.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 8 November 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link

My parents were at the vol 24 show. It was their wedding night.

brimstead, Saturday, 9 November 2019 05:31 (four years ago) link

haven't gotten to it yet but 30 from earlier this year fuckin knocked me over. one of the best shows ever.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:16 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

I've just bought Dick's Picks vol 36 for a high, but reasonable price.

Duke, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:13 (four years ago) link

Hesitated because I've got lots of 72 Dead. But went for it because I love 72 Dead

Duke, Thursday, 30 January 2020 21:14 (four years ago) link

Hell yeah, September 72 might be their single best month

J. Sam, Friday, 31 January 2020 02:25 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Listening to the first set from Get Shown the Light from 5/5/77 and I've rewound the guitar solo on "Peggy O" three times now.

Revolutionary Girl Utrenja (Tom Violence), Wednesday, 29 April 2020 23:25 (three years ago) link

i was spinning "the eleven" from 1970-04-24 for a couple friends just now (those of you who can't fuck with AUDs are missing out, that performance is fire) and it has me thinking again that i really am curious as to what a "power trio" dead would have sounded like, just jer, phil, and billy

of course they never played in that performance but it does make me wonder if the stems are out there of any of the multitrack shows from back in the day, if anybody's tried it, just mixing out bob and keith or tc or whoever else was with them that day

like, uh, you know, if you've ever heard the raw mix of "maggot brain" and there's a really prominent vibraphone part, or the way david cross is basically mixed out of the "red" version of "asbury park"

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 01:25 (three years ago) link

There are some interesting '74 single drummer shows on the Archive where the sound mix is jacked such that you can hear different incarnations of the band, like the Bertha from https://archive.org/details/gd74-06-16.sbd.fink.17701.sbeok.shnf/gd74-06-16d1t01.shn is basically just Jerry, Bill and Keith, not sure if there are any from this era that just capture Jerry, Bill and Phil though.

BrianB, Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:07 (three years ago) link

Yeah, I've heard some weird mix shows and I definitely like hearing them. Half the time the Dead sound good it just seems like an accident! With all the tapes out there, there's so much room for fucking around... What Oswald did was interesting but it was all based on 2-track mixdowns, and it was 25 years ago now, and I'm tantalized by how much more is possible!

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 16:21 (three years ago) link

Lotta soundboards from this period sound wonky for the first 1-3 songs because they were just dialing in the sounds, people ever actually listening to these was the furthest thing from their mind (as opposed to Betty Boards and audience tapes)

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 30 April 2020 18:11 (three years ago) link

like, here's an AI trying to do "king solomon's marbles": https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787978798

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 30 April 2020 20:21 (three years ago) link

happy anniversary

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/417X2A5X0EL.jpg

mookieproof, Saturday, 2 May 2020 18:55 (three years ago) link

Wow man! Must check. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick%27s_Picks_Volume_8

dow, Saturday, 2 May 2020 19:12 (three years ago) link

like, here's an AI trying to do "king solomon's marbles": https://jukebox.openai.com/songs/787978798

― Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, April 30, 2020 4:21 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Lol, sounds like The War on Drugs!

He Ain't Heavy D, He's My Brother (PBKR), Sunday, 3 May 2020 03:40 (three years ago) link

Anyone been listening to the 36 From the Vault podcast? I find it's been pretty useful for me contextualising different time periods for the band as I've only just been getting into them over the last year or so. Also made with the assumption that people who listen to Dead live shows have a lot of patience for fucking around, which is probably fair.

in twelve parts (lamonti), Sunday, 3 May 2020 08:06 (three years ago) link

The out of tune guitars in the acoustic set of Dick's Picks 8 make me wince.

Duke, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:41 (three years ago) link

I love the Dead, but I struggle with their acoustic sets.

Duke, Sunday, 3 May 2020 12:42 (three years ago) link

So now https://www.jambase.com/article/grateful-dead-workingmans-dead-50th-anniversary--skipping Live/Dead" bummer, and what the Hell, man?? I realize we already had the Beyond-Deluxe Complete 1969 Fillmore Concerts or whatever the exact title may be, but can't afford that! Just the reremasted orginal and a bonus show would be fine.

dow, Thursday, 7 May 2020 03:51 (three years ago) link

I love Vol 8. The Viola Lee Blues on that slays.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 7 May 2020 04:14 (three years ago) link


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