NOUGHT BUT THE TRUTH: 2000-2009 albums & tracks VOTING (and campaigning) thread DEADLINE OCTOBER 11

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tough deciding whether i'm going to vote for 4 black dice albums or 5 black dice albums

ogmor, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 11:21 (four years ago) link

You should check this out, Pom and LJ.

I will, thanks. It's been on my list of pending albums for a while now.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 11:25 (four years ago) link

Will listen to that, but for now, let's keep this thread clutter-free (i.e. no Youtubes pls)

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 14:16 (four years ago) link

lurker of chalice is the same dude as leviathan, he is a deeply fucked up person but that record is p good yeah

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

Considering being a coward and sending unranked ballots

Simon H., Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:12 (four years ago) link

I'm almost ready to submit, but Monotony has got me thinking that I might need room for that wonderful Teedra Moses album.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

track campaign: Cortney Tidwell - Don't Let Stars Keep Us Tangled Up (Ewan Pearson's Objects In Space mix)

probably the greatest thing i've ever heard

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

I sort of assumed everyone had heard that already? but yes extremely good

Simon H., Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

i mean me too but i can’t assume anything on ilm

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:24 (four years ago) link

Don't Let The Stars is one of the songs that I wasn't aware of until it place in the 2005-09 poll. It's gorgeous.

kitchen person, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link

this is gonna be tough, i just hit 50 and i'm only at F alphabetically

ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:05 (four years ago) link

Hot Chip - One Life Stand (Jan 2010 release)
Oni Ayhun - OAR004-A
Robyn - Dancing On My Own

― nashwan, Monday, September 23, 2019 5:01 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

all zapped

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

One Life Stand was released digitally in November 2009, so please unzap it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_Life_Stand_(song)

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:12 (four years ago) link

unzapped!

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

Thanks!

Dan Worsley, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:15 (four years ago) link

if nashwan turns up with evidence that november 2009 was actually in this decade though, we've got problems

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:20 (four years ago) link

i got a bit more selective but still ended up with 127 albums on my first pass

ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:28 (four years ago) link

shortlist of 200 nearly ..

campaigning wise I hope people dont forget the albums by Isis and Agalloch on the noms list.

Also Yob - Catharsis which is the best album they made in the OG incarnation if not the best in both.

Zombi - Spirit Animal
And Emeralds - What Happened?
for the non metal synth fans on ILM

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:42 (four years ago) link

making sure everybody plans to vote for the meadowlands.

that is all.

Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link

Creeping up my album ballot: múm - Finally We Are No One.

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:57 (four years ago) link

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

that's in my 200
xp

Thus Spoke Darraghustra (Oor Neechy), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 19:58 (four years ago) link

i think it probably won't need the help but everyone please remember to vote for the magnolia electric co, the best album of the 2000s

ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

― ciderpress, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:58 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:04 (four years ago) link

Not to rain on anybody's parade but this:

Kaija Saariaho / Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Esa-Pekka Salonen / Kronos Quartet ‎– Du cristal …à la fumée / Sept papillons / Nymphéa

…is a reissue of a 1993 album with Sept papillons tacked on.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

ZAPPED

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

And didn't Sigur Rós's Ágætis byrjun come out in JUNE 1999?

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link

that one's a bit controversial

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

it was released in iceland in 1999, don't think it had a global release until 2000/2001

ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link

that's a totally acceptable year of impact thing imo

american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:25 (four years ago) link

i'm not zapping jon and his yelping

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:26 (four years ago) link

pitchfork, rolling stone, et al have already run 00s lists with it in there i think it's grandfathered in now

ciderpress, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link

Yeah we discussed Agaetis Byrjun earlier, din't get a release outside of Iceland until mid 2000.

This is hard. My longlist was about 200 albums. Cutting it down to 100 was not a big problem, but the hurting has def started.

Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:46 (four years ago) link

I've got about 100 too at this point and am afraid to go any further.

pomenitul, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:52 (four years ago) link

voted. had the albums list already like 99% thought out. winged the tracks voting but I feel strongly about it. lots of nostalgia when putting these together. thanks a lot for setting this all up.

gman59, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

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Simon H., Tuesday, 24 September 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

i plan to vote for the meadowlands

― ciderpress, Tuesday, September 24, 2019 12:58 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

― american bradass (BradNelson), Tuesday, September 24, 2019 4:04 PM (fifty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

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Le Bateau Ivre, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 21:27 (four years ago) link

Emeralds - What Happened?

well worth your time if you dig floaty space synth action with a bit of grit in the mix

sleeve, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:03 (four years ago) link

I’ll put some information on some of the more niche stuff I’ll be voting for up in phases. A couple of tracks:

Kapela Ze Wsi Warszawa- Maydow - Polish drone-folk. KZWW were early participants in Poland’s roots revival scene, taking near-forgotten trad melodies / styles at risk of disappearing in a country perceived as being indifferent to its cultural heritage and incorporating them into new songs. A lot of their stuff is fairly jaunty but Maydow has a strong folk-horror vibe that may appeal to fans of Espers or the Wicker Man idk.

Kasia Stankiewicz - Francuzeczka - I have vivid memories of going to Poland for the first time, getting to the hotel, switching on the TV and the video for this sprawling electro-pop marvel playing. I’ve been transfixed ever since.

The Konki Duet - Il Fait Tout Gris Released slightly before the Nouvelle Vague album but with a similar concept, it’s a French cello cover of Fade To Grey. There isn’t the same sense of ironic detachment you get with Olivier Libeaux’s project though, it’s played dead straight and works wonderfully.

Lady Saw - Five Star Hotel Probably a minor entry in her immense discography but the combination of Mario C’s bouncy Bomb-A-Drop riddim and Saw’s lyrics about precisely which hotels she’d let suitors take her to is enormous fun.

ShariVari, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:13 (four years ago) link

imago -- Brandy - "Full Moon" should be on the track list, not albums.

Doctor Hu (Leee), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 22:14 (four years ago) link

Maryanne Amacher's Sound Characters is on the albums list but was released too early for the poll.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:26 (four years ago) link

Brandy - Full Moon is on both lists - presumably the track is a title-track? It was nominated by Jeff W as an album too

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link

Maryanne Amacher is about to be zapped

imago, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 23:45 (four years ago) link

I voted. I was surprised that I got up to >50 albums and had to make cuts - most of my heavy album listening was in college (which excludes most of the 00s). But the last couple years I've been catching up on a lot of more recent albums. Tracks was TOUGH.

Vinnie, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:11 (four years ago) link

Ah ok! For some reason I didn't see it on the tracks (it is there) and assumed it fell into the wrong list.

Doctor Hu (Leee), Wednesday, 25 September 2019 00:12 (four years ago) link

imago, google docs is unfortunately blocked on my laptop so i have to send them over via my phone which loses all the 'special characters'
i'll try sort any ones out on my voting slips but apologies if i miss any

nxd, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 09:24 (four years ago) link

More tracks:

Raymond & Maria - Ingen Vill Veta Var Du Köpt Din Tröja - Raymond & Maria have cornered the market in sweet acoustic indie-pop songs about how capitalism can lead to a decent standard of living but is ultimately dehumanising (Jobs Where They Don’t Know Our Names, The Fish Are Swimming Slower Every Year, etc). Their best is Ingen Vill Veta Var Du Köpt Din Tröja, re-released a couple of years later in English as No-One Notices Your Brand-New T-Shirt. The chorus approximates to “no-one will be sad when you die / nobody will miss you / nobody even cares where you bought your shirt / even though you’ve done everything that you should / you’ve been polite and happy / and you’ve worked hard to lose that stupid accent”.

Calle 13 - Atrevete-te-te - One of the most popular reggaeton songs of the decade – poking fun at a girl who listens to “pop-rock Latino”, Green Day and Coldplay and is too snobby for Puerto Rican music. Good use of cumbia clarinets.

Delfin - Vesna - Maudlin Russian electro-pop is very much my jam and Delfin’s glittering Vesna with its single verse (forgive me / it’s spring where I’m going / can you find me?) repeated like an incantation is one of the most affecting things of the decade.

B-Jeans - Ei Saa - Estonian Italodisco packed with twinkling synths and rolled consonants. Estonian pop of the era was still a strange cottage industry where almost everything seemed to be written or produced by one guy – Sven Lohmus. I’m 99% sure this was one of his.

Capleton - Long Time - Almost everything on South Rakkas’ infectious Bionic Ras riddim is good but Capleton’s Long Time is a standout. He’s probably marginally better known for conscious reggae these days but excelled at being silly as well.

Sammi Cheng - 808 - Sammi is probably best known in the West for her acting (Blind Detective, Everlasting Regret, etc) but has sold tens of millions of albums at home. Most of her records are fairly boilerplate Cantopop ballads but 808 has a wonderfully woozy charm.

ShariVari, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 11:17 (four years ago) link

Not to rain on anybody's parade but this:

Kaija Saariaho / Los Angeles Philharmonic Orchestra / Esa-Pekka Salonen / Kronos Quartet ‎– Du cristal …à la fumée / Sept papillons / Nymphéa

…is a reissue of a 1993 album with Sept papillons tacked on.
Oops, sorry, I nominated this based on the release year, didn't realise it was an reissue.

I already sent my ballot with that album included, is it okay to resend a corrected one?

Tuomas, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 11:42 (four years ago) link

I'm sure it is.

imago, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 11:46 (four years ago) link

I quite like the Lurker of Chalice, LBI. It's less metal-oriented than I expected (in a good way), almost d&b/trip-hop-ish in parts, and much better than the couple of Leviathan albums I've heard.

pomenitul, Wednesday, 25 September 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link

i think trying to carefully preserve the integrity of the ideal object doesn't acknowledge how music functions. all sound is queer. i want to specifically vote for a milli as played through my old desktop pc speakers

I probably won't read an article with that title but it is possible to recognize the mutability and subjectivity of sonic experience (and to have taught remixing for a few years) and still think that remixes should be recognized as distinct pieces of work in their own right. No beef with imago's decision, though.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:55 (four years ago) link

The problem is knowing the names of things. We make our own prisons. In Greggs I say "one of those"

saer, Sunday, 13 October 2019 17:57 (four years ago) link

Would anyone object to us doing 10 tonight and 10 tomorrow?

imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:04 (four years ago) link

Sounds great! Is it still going to be albums first?

jmm, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

no

imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:16 (four years ago) link

I didn't vote in this, just was not in touch enough with the broad spread of music in that decade, but super excited to see the results and learn!

Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link

Are We Having Fun Yet? ILM's Top 100 Tracks Of The 00's

imago, Sunday, 13 October 2019 18:50 (four years ago) link

top tracks of the '70s?

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:08 (four years ago) link

Still holding out for 20s

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:16 (four years ago) link

This is news to me. I hope you all like low image resolution

― tangenttangent, Sunday, October 13, 2019 7:06 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Please tt don't hurt 'im!

Le Bateau Ivre, Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link

Still holding out for 20s

Bill Griffith was born in 1944

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Sunday, 13 October 2019 19:25 (four years ago) link

Er, just clicked on the link now and saw that that article was written by an ilxor I respect and one of whose albums I voted for. Sorry about that:(. If it helps, I was feeling annoyed by the argument on here more than anything else.

All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Monday, 14 October 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link

Also can I be churlish and point out that 'The Magical World of the Strands' was relaased in 1998 and definitely doesn't count here?


My mistake, no idea how I didn't check. But won't matter in the overall results because no one else will vote for it.

lefal junglist platton (wtev), Monday, 14 October 2019 05:53 (four years ago) link

coulda ruled out Dead Prez for being first released in early '99 too

nashwan, Monday, 14 October 2019 07:57 (four years ago) link


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