Rolling European Politics Thread

just found out meades did a franco building doc last month that I missed, perfect!

it was good and scary and angry

Supreme Courts are on fire today.

yeah everything I know about the valley of the fallen makes it seem like a nightmare

i'd prefer desecrated but downsized will do for now i s'pose

Yeah, good day for Supreme Courts. I need to see that doc.

https://www.politico.eu/article/jan-jambon-flemish-parties-toughen-migration-stance-in-coalition-agreement/

Flemish parties toughen migration stance in coalition agreement
Flemish nationalist Jan Jambon announced the three-party deal Monday.

In the UK there are gammons, in Belgium there is Jambon itself.

Great that we all learned the right lessons from the last crisis and that the EU is showing skeptics what for by pulling together in solidarity!

https://www.politico.eu/article/virtual-summit-real-acrimony-eu-leaders-clash-over-corona-bonds/?fbclid=IwAR1ewCarJ_y_3h2oiCiE1a0GIooHMbm4wINPxrhQSOXwIM4Si7h80dxPM_g

This is playing with fire. Can't see the EU surviving this.

It'll survive it, but it's another idiotically selfish move that's bound to decrease its life expectancy in the long run.

Unlike you to be so positive Pom.

But yes it won't collapse overnight, but it gives the anti-EU forces more ammunition. All little steps along the way.

seems that germany is going to be the death of it

Next Bundestag election will be held some time next year. A proper shift to the left is still possible, but I'm not exactly getting my hopes up.

Merkel seemed to be the only thing keeping the fascists at bay, so I'm worried.

I've said before here that I can't imagine Portugal ever going full euroskeptic, despite having been dealt a very rough hand during the last crisis, because the prospects of economic survival outside the EU are just so grim. But if this carries on that just might do it.

Same in Romania, but we're expendable anyway.

Hungarian parliament has made Orban dictator

Hungarian Parliament passes bill that gives PM Orbán unlimited power & proclaims:

- State of emergency w/o time limit
- Rule by decree
- Parliament suspended
- No elections
- Spreading fake news + rumors: up to 5 yrs in prison
- Leaving quarantine: up to 8 yrs in prison#COVID19 pic.twitter.com/5ScZCbF4yv

— Balazs Csekö (@balazscseko) March 30, 2020

We briefly touched on this in the outbreak thread. The EU is afraid of seeming dictatorial and encroaching on the autonomy of its member states, at the risk of condoning a bona fide fascist dictatorship. This is simply not a risk worth taking, even if the usual suspects – starting with Poland – will undoubtedly side with Orbán in order to safeguard their own Blut und Boden bullshit.

The EU seem to be dictatorial when it comes to budgets and issuing bonds though..

As long as Germany continues to call the shots…

European governments who think that a massive shock in the range of 12 to 20% of GDP can be absorbed with a few new loans from the European Stability Mechanism (whose total available capital is a paltry €410bn–just 3.4% of Eurozone GDP) are deluding themselves. https://t.co/i3RnVqAlxe

— Nicholas Mulder (@njtmulder) March 30, 2020

"The Dutch" is trending on twitter, so you know what that means... I think their stance is appalling, it's entirely inappropriate posturing during the worst crisis imaginable, by both Rutte and Merkel.

This otm basically: https://www.theguardian.com/world/commentisfree/2020/mar/31/solidarity-members-eurozone-coronavirus-dutch-coronabond

the arguments against this are arguments against the EU

It has been argued (in the last crisis) that the half-dozen northern countries opposing fiscal expansion should split as a bloc and I can see that road being mapped out this year.

what would france do?

An interesting one for Macron, a guy who has very little ideology.

what would jupiter do?

The EU put out a statement condemning the abuse of emergency powers - that stopped short of explicitly naming Hungary. Hungary has just endorsed it.

It felt so empty without us ... So we joined the statement. #European #values are common to us all. https://t.co/0Wz8rXJduM

— Judit Varga (@JuditVarga_EU) April 2, 2020

57-year-old Romanian man, one of 40,000 flown in from Eastern Europe to work on farms during the lockdown, dead from Corona he picked up in Germany.https://t.co/hFB2hwlUTS

— Greggs Truther (@invisibleste) April 17, 2020

appalling

Big surprise in Berlin state elections, where exit polls show the Greens of mayoral candidate Bettina Jarasch outperform predictions to come out top pic.twitter.com/CVSBOUYzQC

— Philip Oltermann (@philipoltermann) September 26, 2021

Initial results indicate that Berlin voted to expropriate and socialize around 11% of the apartments in the city from mega-landlord 😭 https://t.co/IK2f1nRUyE

— nathan ma (@nthnashma) September 26, 2021

and Graz just elected a Communist mayor. https://t.co/0jaji2HSYx

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) September 26, 2021

Germany's first openly trans MPs, both Greens 🇩🇪💚🏳️‍⚧️ https://t.co/IYMYyLzUFy

— Ross Greer (@Ross_Greer) September 26, 2021

The SPD has scored a very modest success in this election, if one can even call it that. And it is NOT some kind of youthful Corbyn-surge but a lurch towards SPD of older ex-Merkel voters. Old voters, bulk of electorate, are decisive in explaining small gains. https://t.co/CNtAKpGmYk

— Adam Tooze (@adam_tooze) September 26, 2021

You are a refugee, desperate, on a stranded boat on the Mediterranean. Do you let yourself and your family drown or starve or die of thirst, or do you try to steer the boat - and face 146 years in prison? https://t.co/I6XXhCbEFc

— James B (@piercepenniless) September 29, 2021

https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2022/09/22/italian-election-italy-turns-to-the-right-with-fdis-georgia-meloni.html

Wonder if the EU will survive the recession we're going into.

We are staring down the first global recession not led by US since World War II. It’s near impossible US doesn’t follow and it’s nearly certain we are making it worse. https://t.co/YWEvsazHtl

— Claudia Sahm (@Claudia_Sahm) September 22, 2022

I wrote for @thenation about the Italian election, how rising energy prices could upset the far right’s agenda in government, and the surprising (partial) recovery or the Five Star Movement https://t.co/bCSAZC1zD5

— David Broder (@broderly) September 22, 2022

Meloni will call the pope a globalist and cut off the church like how Florida taxed Disney… then the pope will make a Netflix deal where he’s interviewed by Michelle Obama who will ask if there will ever be a woman pope and the pope will respond “stranger things have happened”

— Don Hughes (@getfiscal) September 26, 2022

Deutsche Bank is warning of German deindustrialization as a result of the gas crisis. Unlike in the US or UK, there is no world leading financial, service or digital sector to fall back on. The gas question is the question of the future of this economy. pic.twitter.com/AQFOKY92WC

— Isabella M. Weber (@IsabellaMWeber) October 17, 2022