Otm. Guardian is a fucking mess for even caring about publishing more right wing opinions tbh, when most right wing publications will never publish anyone left of Hugo Rifkind.
― gyac, Monday, 23 September 2019 22:23 (four years ago) link
the "comforting carbon monoxide leak" vibe that center right commentators give off to center left people is a huge practical problem in the US (where i live now). it's perhaps a bit less of a problem in the UK, and the danger of platforming the further right opinions might be more salient in that context.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 September 2019 22:36 (four years ago) link
"comforting carbon monoxide leak"
^ this is in quotes because i said it. sorry i can't write.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 23 September 2019 22:37 (four years ago) link
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek),
Its a big problem in UK and a major contributory factor in fracture between public and media. Over-representation of "Tory Remainers", or socially liberal / economically conservative, or whatever you call them - inverse of actual centre ground. Illusion of this group being larger than is actually the case, and having to cater to it, this
Its like the creation of a 'palatable opponent' that you can have polite disagreement with, but to what end? what is the point of this? Give us the real deal or don't bother
― anvil, Tuesday, 24 September 2019 00:23 (four years ago) link
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EHzWolWXUAIEtbp?format=jpg&name=large
― gyac, Saturday, 26 October 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
oh lord
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 26 October 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link
I'm never more aware of my working-class origins than when I remember my mother doing a cleaning job whilst heavily pregnant and then getting very ill and having a miscarriage that nearly killed her.
― calzino, Saturday, 26 October 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
For the Evening Standard, not the Guardian, but Grace Dent wrote the most cringeworthy paragraph of all time. pic.twitter.com/8BUbiHrYcY— Dril Kafka (sicko mode) (@RuairiWood) October 26, 2019
― be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
that's..... incredible.
― What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
That's not even the most cringeworthy paragraph in that piece:
I am working class. Oh yes I am. Don’t make me play Working Class Top Trumps with you because I’ll win. I’ve owned a Staffordshire bull terrier (Bess), I’ve holidayed in Tenerife, I have silver fillings. My godfather was a Geordie called Uncle Bob who sold sewing machines. I went to a comprehensive school — OK, when I could be arsed. There was no literature in my home aside from Jackie Collins smut from car-boot sales and a News of the World part-work on the Moors Murderers. In my youth I dated hot boys who lingered in young offenders’ institutions (oh, come on, those were the best ones). My teenage schoolfriends had babies with lads called Teabag, Gozzy and Bello.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:32 (four years ago) link
you don't reckon grace dent is probably in on the joke here?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
what does it mean to be in on a really shitty jokerly makes u think
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
it reads differently if it's supposed to be 'in character', i have never got what she's about tbh
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
people moan about Mao murdering too many people, but at least he worked out that if there ain't no food then all the restaurant critics die as well!
― calzino, Saturday, 26 October 2019 21:43 (four years ago) link
petition to get calzino onto the guardian's writing staff
― imago, Saturday, 26 October 2019 22:17 (four years ago) link
Morrissey says
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2019/oct/27/morrissey-performs-in-la-wearing-fuck-the-guardian-t-shirt
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 27 October 2019 18:25 (four years ago) link
Puzzled by the Dominican Republic line. Where is that anyway?
I met Grace Dent once. She was very bad - mendacious, secretive, tricky. Probably not the way her writing seeks to come across.
― the pinefox, Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:31 (four years ago) link
Lol I read the guardian way more than I would like and have never heard of grace dent before, nor have I noticed a single story about Morrissey except the occasional "great British albums" boring bollocks they do. Certainly not any "anti Morrissey" stories. Also the smiths are really boring.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:45 (four years ago) link
Oh right she does the restaurant reviews.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
Who are the only good restaurant critics, or former ones apart from Meades?
― calzino, Sunday, 27 October 2019 19:53 (four years ago) link
bought £1 pack of Haribo Starmix. Worst weets ever in history of my life, rubbery, tasteless, disgusting. "Happy world of Haribo" Bollocks— Michael Winner (@MrMichaelWinner) June 24, 2012
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:01 (four years ago) link
that one guy left twitter always retweets
rayner/o'loughlin are rightly lauded but maybe too fbpe for current ilx?
― imago, Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
riphttp://www.anorak.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/tumblr_inline_mgzn1gvBZY1r2qscg.gif
― non-euclidean lenin (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:03 (four years ago) link
Jay Rayner is a mensch, and Marina O’Loughlin is generally spot-on (and -bonus- is a Glaswegian Italian).
I’ve never met Grace Dent and never want to, because she has a big ‘puts on airs’ vibe that may once have been ironic, and is now evinced by Botox and an underbite. Disclosure: my mum, a single parent, hired her older friend Una to come in one morning a week to do the cleaning jobs (floors etc) she couldn’t manage herself after working 60-hour weeks. Una worked full-time as a cleaner and my sister and I did have to tidy before her visits.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:20 (four years ago) link
i've never ready anything by jay rayner but i know what he looks like and he beat me to a lovely cast iron skillet at a stall in the lambeth the country show and for that I will never forgive him.
― plax (ico), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
It's half of a Caribbean island. The other half is Haiti.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link
JR is good mates with a friend of mine from high school, and she invited us out for drinks to meet one another a few years ago. I like him a lot - he reminds me and my school friend of guys our age from our town - sorry he beat you to a good skillet.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:41 (four years ago) link
it was very unusual and reasonably priced
― plax (ico), Sunday, 27 October 2019 20:42 (four years ago) link
At an event once I told someone 'Jay Rayner' was a pen name and his real name was 'Ray Jayner' and he overheard me and told the person that it was true. Legend— JC (@jmsclee) April 25, 2019
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Sunday, 27 October 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
Jay Rayner often reviews restaurants local to me (he lives round here) and it’s a very useful service.
― Madchen, Monday, 28 October 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link
Jay Rayner looks like Lawrence Llewellyn-Bowen. If there's one aspect of broadsheet journalism that the internet should have killed off it's restauarant criticism.
― fetter, Monday, 28 October 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link
this is the first time I've ever heard anyone say they didn't think he was a revolting cunt
― ogmor, Monday, 28 October 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link
He lives locally so I see him walking around -- always seemingly out of breath -- about once a month.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:39 (four years ago) link
― ogmor, Monday, 28 October 2019 08:38 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
tbf i get the feeling you'd say this about each & every member of a certain media caste, namely the 'flamboyant speaker of one's truth'
which is kind of ironic because
― imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:43 (four years ago) link
xplife is tasty, brutish and short for the professional high-class bon-viveur :p
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:45 (four years ago) link
I know a lot of ppl who hate(d) a a gill as well its true
― ogmor, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:47 (four years ago) link
this is some of the worst music in the world.
seems v much of a piece with the more recent wave of post-takoma guitarists who show their cloth-ears by treating the new age copycats & originals as being much of a muchness. sure there's a lot of detail which can be hard to concentrate on, but if you unfocus your ears it all blurs into a sweet mellow vibe. it's utopian in the way a show-home is utopian, bland and featureless.
if ppl's anhedonia has rendered them numb to all but the most cartoonishly saccharine & they retreat into this mush as an act of self-care then they have my sympathies. mb ppl will find the strength to engage more intensely when the political climate improves, or mb it's just indicative of ppl tending to be at their most boringly self-involved and incurious between 30 & 50. in any case I'm managing fine with solids, ta
― Jay Rayner, Monday, 21 May 2018 13:08 (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link
if lj thinks i'm flamboyant tho i think it's time to call it quits
― ogmor, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link
This is probably the only Jay Rayner piece worth reading btw.
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2009/sep/06/chinese-restaurant-silk-road-london
Years before Uighurs became more known to the west. It's got that awkwardness that liberals trade in when trying to write about other cultures.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:48 (four years ago) link
tbc i have time for both JR and ogmor and long may persist their distinct but equally lavish reviewing styles
― imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:50 (four years ago) link
can you kill me before you go fuck yourself pls darling
― ogmor, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:57 (four years ago) link
^the bracing turn of phrase we all need more of
― imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 09:58 (four years ago) link
itt ogmor resists assimilation into the southern private school wordsmithery mafia
― imago, Monday, 28 October 2019 10:10 (four years ago) link
A a gill was a cunt, and it's good he's dead
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 28 October 2019 11:48 (four years ago) link
I think the only time i agreed with an a a gill piece was when he said billy connolly is an overrated unfunny cunt, stopped timepieces and all that ...
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 12:11 (four years ago) link
aa gill spoke to me when I worked in a call centre for a credit card company, sorry to report that he was basically polite and respectful so not really a good anecdote tbh
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 28 October 2019 12:20 (four years ago) link
aa gill and amber rudd are such distinct types of cunt that its very strange to picture their marriage. hard to imagine it wasn't always snowing though.
― plax (ico), Monday, 28 October 2019 12:45 (four years ago) link
When he left her for someone young enough to be his daughter naturally he had to write some gloating articles about what is like to sad odb.
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 12:56 (four years ago) link
I used to hate read him when I didn't even think about hate reading as a concept. My fave one was the umbrage taken when a girl in the supermarket told him off for calling his daughter after a brand of margarine
― calzino, Monday, 28 October 2019 13:09 (four years ago) link
i can't believe it's not bertha gill
― mark s, Monday, 28 October 2019 13:18 (four years ago) link