Vice Principals with Danny McBride and Walton Goggins

Just to reiterate, I like this new show! Just hard to get a handle on. Dark crime family drama heist comedy satire?

BTW, I know he's getting older, and playing a character, and has lost a lot of weight, but Goodman just seems so kind of last-role tired in this. Like, literally tired. Hope he's ok.

It’s called acting

I think, outside of making everything over the top, what the McBride/Hill shows do is a caricature of excess that is ridiculous on its face rather than crafting an intricate plot about white collar crime or an intrigue about minutiae. And then they smash all the caricatures together. Do megachurches do things to lure people away to their own congregation to the point of sabotage and rumor? Sure, but that’s not nearly as obvious in screen as just smashing things, or as ridiculous and funny

The theory posited elsewhere that their shows have a deeply Protestant feel, that all sins are forgiven if you repent (or repeatedly have to repent) or that you’re one of the chosen because you’re moneyed, works for me. It’s like a guy in a hole who isn’t getting any closer to the surface but occasionally runs into a gold nugget as he burrows deeper. You can’t be both successful and wrong.

def lacks fred flintstone exuberance

well, yabba dabba fuckin’ doo

i thought the make up on goodman was pretty impressive in the flashback episode. his neck looked 20 years younger.

I liked the detail that his office staff called him “doctor”

got his yabba dabba fuckin' doctorate

ehh it’s a living

I'm gonna wait in the car. You stay here and make yourself cum.

the surfing line jesus christ

also Tiffany's piano repertoire

i fucking love this show

a deeply Protestant feel, that all sins are forgiven if you repent

surely this is more a Catholic point of view?

Luther believed that redemption was already baked into humanity. Jesus died on the cross FOR you. Calvin believed in predestination. doesn't matter how much you repent.

I do like the idea of ott caricatures doing regular things. Usually in shows and movies it's regular people doing silly stuff. In this it's silly people doing serious stuff. Like, McBride is innately funny and funny-looking and his arrogant line readings are funny, so when you see him waving a gun you expect it to be funny, too, but it's not, not really. Same with Goggins, a kind of goofy looking dude on a good day magnified to 100 in this, but then his behavior, while still ridiculous, is nowhere near as ridiculous as the way he looks. Or Kelvin, that character is such a cartoon, but he's (so far) almost the most sincere of all of them, and Keefe (!), for being a big weirdo, is at least something of a real success story in this preacher world.

And yet even beyond that the show has no problem with good old dumb humor, too, like making fun of Mrs. Baby Billy's teeth, which is a real Farrelly Brothers thing to do.

Re: religion, this world is straight up prosperity gospel, right? Which is Protestant.

(Back to Goodman, btw. Yeah, acting. I hope! Because when he was overweight and breathing heavy in every scene, that sure wasn't acting.)

xp I think it's more that the "repenting" involves public self-flagellation and has absolutely nothing to do with personal moral clarity. Catholic repentance is between you and God, with a priest as a mediator in confession. The more evangelical position is that you have to do it in front of everyone.

"Why do you want to shave your pussy?!"
"So I can surf faster, JESSE!"

shit, Misbehavin is a *serious* earworm

Loved her in VP but Edi Patterson is simply amazing in this.

I liked the detail that his office staff called him “doctor”

Loved her in VP but Edi Patterson is simply amazing in this.

yeah she's a highlight, interesting to see the female version of the standard McBride sputtering and delusional/blustering failure sorta character

while simultaneously implying all manner of disrespect when they’d refer to a black church’s “””Bishop”””

fuck can we just tax all these motherfuckers like yesterday

xpst

really want an anigif of Goggins clogging tbh

yeah she's a highlight, interesting to see the female version of the standard McBride sputtering and delusional/blustering failure sorta character

lol yes Misbehavin slaps

Nice to see Patterson is also a writer and producer

starting to think this might be the best thing McBride & co. have done yet tbrr

Direction is definitely a bit showier, and the plot construction seems more deliberate and complex with all the flashbacks and shifting focus around the various characters. A bunch of Scorsese-esque tracking shots and flashy camerawork (lol'd at the vomiting-on-the-viewer/inside-the-toilet shot)

should this be split off? I could c&p the thread

it's too damn good to not have it's own thread.

agreed

"but Mr. Baby Billy..."