PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

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Mr Corbyn is also wary of comparing himself with Marvel comic characters as Boris Johnson did and was then ridiculed as the Incredible Hulk.

The Labour leader said: “I’m no superhero but I hope my superpower is listening to people. You can learn a lot from listening.”

Mr Johnson described Mr Corbyn as a “superannuated Marxist” in an email to Conservative party members on Friday.

Mr Corbyn sniffed: “That’s ridiculously ageist. I haven’t got anything against him because of his age.”

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:08 (four years ago) link

Is this...another weird conspiracy theory?

Tom Watson: “It must be very lonely being the Lee Harvey Oswald of the Labour Party for Jon Lansman.”

— Michael Crick (@MichaelLCrick) September 22, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link

Slimfast is a helluva drug

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:17 (four years ago) link

he needs to remember Corbyn is teetotal/vegetarian/probably never done coke and in much better shape than him. And making ageist comments when you are knocking on 60 is not good!

calzino, Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:19 (four years ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EFFR7xRX4AASXV4?format=jpg&name=large

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:31 (four years ago) link

Mr Corbyn sniffed:

I'd say the choice of verbs here is rather loaded against Mr. Corbyn's favor. I assume it was deliberate.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:32 (four years ago) link

TBF he does sound sniffy during standard intakes of breath.

coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:38 (four years ago) link

(xxp) All for voluntary starvation in this case tbh.

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link

just imagine the underground schools of the future where children are taught the forbidden knowledge

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 22 September 2019 18:59 (four years ago) link

xxxp ia with how it sounds but feel in context of wider piece it might not be what they were going for
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/jeremy-corbyn-announces-plans-second-20139636

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:01 (four years ago) link

you love to see it

Asked if his plan for government was a socialist revolution, but a very British one, Mr Corbyn replied: “That’s a good way of putting it. We’ll build on past achievements.”

On a plan to introduce a four day, 32-hour week on the same pay he said: “Socialism is about advancing everyone’s freedom.

“Part of that freedom is having more time to spend with your friends and loved ones.”

On taxing private schools by abolishing their charitable status, making them pay fair business rates and charging VAT on fees he said: “Nurses, teachers, small business and everybody else have to pay their taxes.

“Why should elitist institutions be different?”

Is it true the star Beetle Juice is going to explode in 2012 (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link

Anyone have any idea how the "ensure universities admit the same proportion of private school students as in the wider population" bit could possibly work?

ogmor, Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:07 (four years ago) link

diktat iirc

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:14 (four years ago) link

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 29% (+1)
LAB: 27% (-)
LDEM: 21% (+1)
BREX: 13% (-)
GRN: 5% (-)

via @ComRes, 18 - 19 Sep

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 22, 2019

just calmly only posting polls that are flattering to Labour as i normally do. Sorry but that Opinium one last night really shit me up - while I was quite pissed tbf.

calzino, Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:39 (four years ago) link

i can't be bothered looking it up to link it so you'll just have to trust me, but i remember the line graph of polling averages from the 2017 election being a fairly unremarkable holding pattern with CON on what looked like a comfortable cushion, until essentially the beginning of the election period, at which point all the lines starting swinging wildly around, like a giant magnet had just appeared under the piece of paper, and some parties' lines were attracted to it and others repulsed

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 22 September 2019 19:47 (four years ago) link

EXCL: Labour set to give all foreign nationals living in UK right to vote in general elections for first timehttps://t.co/RxxOy9kKFq

— Benjamin Kentish (@BenKentish) September 22, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:17 (four years ago) link

aren't these voting rights for foreign nationals standard throughout other parts of central/northern Europe? just asking because I don't have a clue.

calzino, Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link

Depends...article mentions only Irish nationals being able to vote here out of all EU nationals but pretty sure Cyprus &Maltese nationals can too. Voting rights tend to be reciprocal, I don’t think they’re that widely spread in Europe for parliamentary level elections.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_of_foreigners_to_vote

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:37 (four years ago) link

Oh ok

Cyprus and Malta are already Members of the Commonwealth, so full voting rights have always been extended to their citizens living in the UK.

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:40 (four years ago) link

"Labour call to 'redistribute' private schools' assets"

Do you need scare quotes around 'redistribute' here?

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:53 (four years ago) link

(From the BBC headline)

Bidh boladh a' mhairbh de 'n láimh fhalaimh (dowd), Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:55 (four years ago) link

the speed at which British private school discourse goes zero-to-eugenics is a sight to behold pic.twitter.com/wX0vb1H2Fs

— Dr Charlotte Lydia Riley (@lottelydia) September 22, 2019

calzino, Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:56 (four years ago) link

Wait, so that means I could technically vote in a British GE as a Canadian?

xps

pomenitul, Sunday, 22 September 2019 20:57 (four years ago) link

aiui all(?) Commonwealth citizens have the right to vote here if they live here, but most require a visa to live/work here (easier for e.g. Canadians, harder for many) so the intersection of "can vote" and "can just move here without asking" is Malta and Cyprus, plus the special treatment for Ireland.

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:00 (four years ago) link

@pom: yes https://www.gov.uk/elections-in-the-uk

britain's secret sauce (seandalai), Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:01 (four years ago) link

xxp get in there https://www.gov.uk/register-to-vote

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:03 (four years ago) link

Thanks.

I entered the UK as a EU citizen, but I doubt it matters in this regard.

pomenitul, Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link

om wokkin ate thi dower uh free mon

provisional ilx (darraghmac), Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:09 (four years ago) link

you also don't need to be a british citizen to be PM...

ogmor, Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

Whilst @GdnPolitics and @BBCPolitics tell the public Labour are having a civil war over brexit or Tom Watson or anything else, this is what's actually happening. John McDonnell is on a stage with @novaramedia deciding what industries to nationalise with a big wheel. pic.twitter.com/jHue78aDBW

— Mat Flusk 🌹 (@MatFlusk) September 22, 2019

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link

politicians (even lots of nominally left ones) are mostly just a lot of slimeball trash, but I feel genuinely privileged to be living in the age of McD!

calzino, Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:57 (four years ago) link

There’s video
https://youtu.be/IETjveIxnN8 1h 58, don’t think it’s been clipped yet

gyac, Sunday, 22 September 2019 21:59 (four years ago) link

Wait, so that means I could technically vote in a British GE as a Canadian?

We've had a Canadian Prime Minister before, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonar_Law

Let them eat Pfifferlinge an Schneckensauce (Tom D.), Sunday, 22 September 2019 22:16 (four years ago) link

Holy fuck:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/22/thomas-cook-in-last-ditch-talks-to-avoid-collapse

Thomas Cook was heading into insolvency on Sunday night as the world’s oldest holiday company faced a collapse that will strand 150,000 UK holidaymakers overseas and put 9,000 British jobs at risk.

The government and the aviation regulator have triggered the UK’s largest ever peacetime repatriation – codenamed Operation Matterhorn – to bring holidaymakers home.

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:33 (four years ago) link

The foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, said on Sunday that the government had contingency plans in place for passengers and sought to reassure holidaymakers that they would not end up stuck overseas. The company had appealed to ministers for a bailout but Raab said the government did not “systemically step in” unless it was in the national interest.

“We would wait to see and hope that [Thomas Cook] can continue but in any event, as you would expect, we’ve got the contingency planning in place to make sure that in any worst-case scenario we can support all those who might otherwise be stranded,” Raab told the BBC.

lol they're all going to die

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:36 (four years ago) link

apparently Matterhorn will cost more than underwriting Thomas Cook for the £200m they need.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

maybe underwriting is the wrong word.

What a ridiculous clusterfuck of totally uncool jokers (jed_), Sunday, 22 September 2019 23:50 (four years ago) link

The USA steadfastly refuses to let any corporation die, no matter how corrupt or incompetent. I am not sure this is a better approach.

A is for (Aimless), Monday, 23 September 2019 02:56 (four years ago) link

Anyone have any idea how the "ensure universities admit the same proportion of private school students as in the wider population" bit could possibly work?


you can do grades as a percentage of each school’s entrants. so top 10% of each school gets an A etc.

it’s not obvious to me how you avoid just preferential treatment *because* someone went to private school.

Fizzles, Monday, 23 September 2019 06:51 (four years ago) link

You could do quotas with financial penalties tied to not hitting them, too.

ShariVari, Monday, 23 September 2019 07:12 (four years ago) link

tbf abolishing private schools is a good first step to improving the education system, not an end goal

Fox Pithole Britain (Noodle Vague), Monday, 23 September 2019 07:18 (four years ago) link

you can do grades as a percentage of each school’s entrants. so top 10% of each school gets an A etc.

Leading to middle-class parents moving into the catchment areas of terrible schools? Ha!

fetter, Monday, 23 September 2019 07:20 (four years ago) link

They already live in those places, particularly in Central London (some of my well-off local friends have/had kids at Bedales, City of London Boys, Westminster, St Pauls).

coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 23 September 2019 07:26 (four years ago) link

I was hoping it was something we could implement for ilx

ogmor, Monday, 23 September 2019 07:48 (four years ago) link

xp state schools in London are much better than the national average (there's a "London effect" on school quality apparently to do with the type of teachers who work in London), so if you live in e.g. Hackney or Tower Hamlets you are likely post-abolition to be able to send your children to a school that is good by any measure, even if it's not Westminster

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Monday, 23 September 2019 07:58 (four years ago) link

apparently the London effect is more down to the make-up of the children being schooled: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/mar/29/real-reason-why-london-schools-do-better-than-the-rest-of-the-country

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Monday, 23 September 2019 08:00 (four years ago) link

Most of the people I know who send their kids private are sending them to board because of how much time they spend away on business (arguably the fees cost as much as having the live-in childcare to cover absences).

coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 23 September 2019 08:04 (four years ago) link

the state holding-pens will take care of that when we are in Crumbyn's Red Dictatorship

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Monday, 23 September 2019 08:07 (four years ago) link

Feel like in the shakeout this policy will end up being tax on private school fees, which is what everyone saying this is outrageous is posing as more reasonable alternative, and what they were all shitting themselves about last time.

gyac, Monday, 23 September 2019 08:34 (four years ago) link


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