The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

^sounds like a political hack job

Can’t be investigated for ‘corrupt deals in Ukraine’ if you turned up at the office too infrequently to do anything corrupt.

The Ukrainian official supppsedly quoted in the Daily Beast piece about being ready to investigate on request has clarified that he was just explaining the normal process for cross-border police investigations, though that should probably have been obvious.

NC Senate seat a possible Dem pickup?
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/462224-warning-signs-flash-for-tillis-in-north-carolina

― Οὖτις, Friday, September 20, 2019 12:16 PM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

politics are incredibly corrupt down here, worse than elsewhere imo, so I'd expect Tillis to hold his seat no matter what else happens

NEW stmt from @SpeakerPelosi on the whistleblower complaint: "If the President has done what has been alleged, then he is stepping into a dangerous minefield with serious repercussions for his Administration and our democracy. " pic.twitter.com/g08po9V6Kl

— Frank Thorp V (@frankthorp) September 20, 2019

its not a minefield if you're too much of a fucking coward to ever put any mines down

https://media1.giphy.com/media/aZRFv9yvH9Bok/giphy.gif?cid=790b76112532be2a213e77058252f405fd7c9b51e62cd678&rid=giphy.gif

why we might have to consider thinking about possibly responding!

"Stop, before we warn you again!"

i'm starting to think maybe Nancy's heart ain't in it.

Pelosi only has half a mine tbf

yeah she has the ability to be a great legislator but until we get a senate that shit means nothing. so in the meantime how has she been useful at all?

I had a great conversation with numerous people

Being reported that Trump spoke with Ukraine at least *eight times* about looking into Biden.

nasty man

investigation pest

so in the meantime how has she been useful at all?

McConnell's Senate has to compromise with her to pass bills

this thread is Perpetual US Civics 101

US federal govt, how does it (not) work?

That’s my point! With McDonnell there her talents are squandered so we don’t need her in that position.

congress passes bills? who knew

Good news, everybody! Our nuclear is tippy-top!

Pres. Trump: "Our nuclear was getting very tired..Now we have it in, as we would say, tippy-top shape. Tippy top. We have new and we have renovated and it's incredible. We all should pray we never have to use it." pic.twitter.com/JWhlN6CY3k

— Evan McMurry (@evanmcmurry) September 20, 2019

OUR nuclear? How about that! Thank you, Sir.

That’s my point! With McDonnell there her talents are squandered so we don’t need her in that position.

a worse Dem leader would be capitulating to McConnell to pass bills in the name of "bipartisanship". Nancy's first major step was to force a govt shutdown, which Trump lost, over his stupid wall funding

xp

wow imagine what a better dem leader could do

you tell me what a better Dem leader would do, I'm at a loss. She holds the caucus together and passes bills with or without GOP votes, that's the job.

i dunno maybe not approving funding for the child-murder camps would be a good start

Tippy Top Shape for October title.

impeach the clearly corrupt president, let all the senate republicans vote against it

xp to shakey

but that would depress Dem turnout, somehow!

it would cause anxiety for the undecided

all of the people who voted for trump in 2016 will see that the impeachment failed and then decide to vote for trump again. they were definitely going to vote for warren or sanders or biden, if the impeachment worked, instead of voting for mike pence or whatever wretched fuck they nominate

or, they could just impeach the clearly guilty man and spend the next several months talking about how he's clearly guilty, and then let the wretched fucks lose their last shreds of dignity by defending him all the way to the 9th circle of hell

you guys are hilarious

in a kinda sad way

^nasty man

impeach the clearly corrupt president, let all the senate republicans vote against it

I'm sure McConnell would find some pithy way to not even bring it to a vote but y'know, "because my FEEWINGS" is always a good position to legislate from

last shreds of dignity

I mean lol they don't have any shreds, what is this fantasy you have about the moral high ground being so wonderfully consoling

you tell me what a better Dem leader would do, I'm at a loss. She holds the caucus together and passes bills with or without GOP votes, that's the job.

― Οὖτις, Friday, September 20, 2019 4:16 PM (ten minutes ago) bookmark

how many other cardboard cutouts couldn't have done the same thing though ? like you said it's the basics of the job. I think though all this shit we could have used a little more than all that.

"because my FEEWINGS" is always a good position to legislate from

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how many other cardboard cutouts couldn't have done the same thing though ? like you said it's the basics of the job. I think though all this shit we could have used a little more than all that.

― (•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, September 20, 2019

I'm not totally on board with Shakey, but tell me how Seth Moulton and Tim Ryan would've held this caucus together. There was no one else gunning for the job.

anyway, cutting out all the bullshit that doesn't matter (eg focusing on me saying "last shreds of dignity", like that matters a fucking bit), your argument is they can't impeach because mcconnell won't let it come to a vote

what a fucking cowardly position to take

lol true i shouldn't be overestimating any of the goons waiting in the wings xp

when feelings coincide with illegality i think theyre cool

so did anyone ClimateStrike today?

your argument is they can't impeach because mcconnell won't let it come to a vote

what a fucking cowardly position to take

this is not my argument, my argument is probably buried in the 10000000th rehash of this stupid argument somwehere upthread, I'm not going to bother reposting it

https://www.cakenknife.com/peach-mint-moscow-mule/

anyway, cutting out all the bullshit that doesn't matter (eg focusing on me saying "last shreds of dignity", like that matters a fucking bit), your argument is they can't impeach because mcconnell won't let it come to a vote

what a fucking cowardly position to take

― Sally Jessy (Karl Malone)

i mean fucking hell we had a great win in 2018 of what ? lets gain the house to pass bills that will never go anywhere and golf clap at this corrupt pos president

one benefit of impeaching - not having this stupid argument again. the reason it comes up AGAIN and AGAIN is because it is something obvious that needs to be done and should have been done a long time ago.

"why are we having this stupid argument about playing Metal Machine Music at top volume for nap time at the orphanage? we've been through this over and over again, all of you think it's a bad idea, but i love metal machine music."

i mean fucking hell we had a great win in 2018 of what ? lets gain the house to pass bills that will never go anywhere and golf clap at this corrupt pos president

― (•̪●) (carne asada)

what did you expect when it looked like the Senate was out of reach? I expected one chamber of Congress to not pass shit that McConnnell and Trump wanted.

so did anyone ClimateStrike today?

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Friday, September 20, 2019 1:35 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

i did! it ruled tbh

kids at the school across the street emptied out around 3pm and circled the block with chants of HEY HEY HO HO CLIMATE CHANGE HAS GOT TO GO which was somewhat heartening
but then a subgroup started chanting PLUTO IS A PLANET PLUTO IS A PLANET and then a smaller subgroup started chanting OPEN AREA 51 OPEN AREA 51 so i question their overall commitment