King Crimson: Classic Or Dud

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what do you mean by "out"

brain dead operatus (FlopsyDuck), Friday, 20 September 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link

They definitely sounded like a jazz-rock version of themselves when I saw them two years ago, and the more I think back on that performance, the more positive my feelings are about the direction they've been going. I'm seriously thinking about buying that 5CD live set that has one disc each of performances from 2014-2018.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 20 September 2019 15:03 (four years ago) link

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what do you mean by "out"

I mean leaning toward free jazz -- not some rock guy's usually simplistic idea of what "free jazz" sounds like but the actual thing. I was legitimately surprised last night how comfortable the band sounded stretching out this way. Tony's cadenza solo on the upright stuck somewhat close to the melody of the song ("Moonchild," I think) but was far more inventive than his "pro's pro" reputation would lead you to expect. Collins walked the line between free, Brotzmann-esque riffs and post-Coltrane solos. Stacey, as mentioned, was fabulous. And Fripp busted out chops and a sound he hasn't really explored for nearly a half-century -- it was actually kind of shocking that a 72-year-old man can recall how he played in his early twenties.

I like this group enough that I probably would've been satisfied with pale-if-faithful imitations of past glories. This wasn't that at all.

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 20 September 2019 20:07 (four years ago) link

I must have lost all of that sitting in the nosebleed section. I'll await the next live recording in that case.

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link

Aaaaand now I've ordered the 5CD box, and the 3CD Radical Action to Unseat... set.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, 20 September 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

I've got the earlier 4CD version of the 5CD live compilation; you won't be disappointed. It's my favourite KC album tbh.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 21 September 2019 07:41 (four years ago) link

Does that Audio Diary thing have a release date?

Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 21 September 2019 13:56 (four years ago) link

Don't know; I got the earlier 4CD set nearly a year ago, having bought "Courtier's Package" seats for their Manchester gig (birthday treat for the boyfriend). We got one each, so I flipped the spare on Discogs for £££.

I'd never been a fan of classic period KC, and only bought the gig tix as an act of love. But I've since discovered that the current live line-up is easily my favourite incarnation of the band - and it seems to be Fripp's, too. Saw one of the 50th anniversary shows at the Albert Hall not long ago, and it was equally brilliant.

mike t-diva, Saturday, 21 September 2019 18:05 (four years ago) link

I assume, since it's a giveaway to super-deluxe ticket-buyers (as described in the post above), it'll probably be shipped to us plebes once the tour ends?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Saturday, 21 September 2019 18:22 (four years ago) link

four weeks pass...

overheard a couple exiting the stereolab show last night:

him: it was this kind of 'Robert Fripp meets--'
her: shut the fuck up

the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Sunday, 20 October 2019 17:04 (four years ago) link

lol

mark s, Sunday, 20 October 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link

I got my copy of the 5CD box a week or so ago. It's great - and there's even a track (the "Interlude" on Disc Four) from the show I attended.

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 20 October 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link

nostalgia hipster slap fight

Spironolactone T. Agnew (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 October 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

This Cosmic FuKc documentary looks like it might be fun.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QG3bjJmGfHI

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 24 January 2020 13:59 (four years ago) link

lmao ok that is a good trailer

frogbs, Friday, 24 January 2020 14:20 (four years ago) link

two months pass...

Well, this fucking sucks:

Seeing news that my old friend Bill Rieflin has died of cancer. You know him as a mighty drummer for bands from Ministry to later R.E.M. To me he was the kindest guy who worked with me at Tower Records SF when I was 19 and so uncool. Hadn't seen him for a while but I am so sad. pic.twitter.com/MAXjc3TzNX

— Feeling Distant (@annkpowers) March 24, 2020



Didn’t his wife just die last year?

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 24 March 2020 23:44 (four years ago) link

What???

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 01:22 (four years ago) link

Oh no

timellison, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 01:29 (four years ago) link

man it's so goddamn sad

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 01:52 (four years ago) link

Defined ‘solid’ as a drummer with a pretty incredible CV that speaks for itself

RIP

Master of Treacle, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 02:08 (four years ago) link

Saw him 7 or 8 times with Robyn Hitchcock, he was so great

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 04:20 (four years ago) link

Fripp and Toyah on Rieflin

jaywbabcock, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:42 (four years ago) link

they were clearly incredibly close to him. Fripp and Toyah are so odd, his reputation as a gruff and pretentious egghead I think masks what must be a lovable guy; his social media posts with her are so goofy and I thought it was a bit of a put on at first but I don't think so any longer.

akm, Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:48 (four years ago) link

Goddamn that was rough to read. The sternum thing. What a strong guy

valet doberman (Jon not Jon), Wednesday, 25 March 2020 23:58 (four years ago) link

I was at the 2nd Oakland show at the Fox, his last performance? Fuck I had no idea he was in such dire straits.

octobeard, Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:14 (four years ago) link

Utterly heartbreaking.

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 March 2020 01:56 (four years ago) link

did he play at that show or just show up? I saw pictures of him there but he wasn't playing at the show I was at (which I think was the second)

akm, Thursday, 26 March 2020 02:56 (four years ago) link

That Fripp recount and salutation is very difficult. I am glad I read it. I am so glad they had that friendship and so sorry for the suffering and loss all around.

blather rinse repeat 2020 (Hunt3r), Thursday, 26 March 2020 03:34 (four years ago) link

I think I was at the first of the 2 nights. He was on keys to my recollection

justice 4 CCR (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 26 March 2020 04:57 (four years ago) link

He was on keyboards when I saw them in Red Bank, NJ in June 2017. Cancer for close to a decade - that's awful.

but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 26 March 2020 10:19 (four years ago) link

wow, that was tough to read. the story about him playing a bunch of mixes over the phone while Toyah was paying by the minute was pretty funny though

frogbs, Thursday, 26 March 2020 13:55 (four years ago) link

(never really loved KC in 45 yrs of trying but "entry of the crims" on ABSENT LOVERS really suits my mood my work and my mood rn)

(tbh the singing is usually when the problem arrives)

mark s, Thursday, 26 March 2020 15:06 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

I can: holy shit.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 10 April 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

He's got pretty good legs for 73

Miami weisse (WmC), Friday, 10 April 2020 15:55 (four years ago) link

much better than the other drivel he's been posting on FB during quarantine which has all been defensive stuff about random complaints people have made about his reluctance to do autographs over the years.

akm, Friday, 10 April 2020 18:45 (four years ago) link

I prefer cranky prick Fripp to goofy old man Fripp.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 10 April 2020 19:01 (four years ago) link

no one wants Fripp to bacon himself

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Saturday, 11 April 2020 00:40 (four years ago) link

The Easter bees are buzzing in an English country garden #lockdown 🐝 💐🐝 #easter #bees #toyahwillcox #robertfripp pic.twitter.com/pYLhy6kUEh

— Toyah Willcox (@toyahofficial) April 10, 2020

mark s, Saturday, 11 April 2020 17:18 (four years ago) link

In less goofy news:

King Crimson tour postponed until 2021 pic.twitter.com/6UcBxKKk0X

— KING CRIMSON (@DGMHQ) April 12, 2020

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 12 April 2020 16:44 (four years ago) link

Happy #lockdown #EasterSunday to the world xxxxx #ToyahWillcox #RobertFripp pic.twitter.com/NZBm6yX8mw

— Toyah Willcox (@toyahofficial) April 12, 2020

finding myself increasingly in favor of a premature "reopening"

Yanni Xenakis (Hadrian VIII), Monday, 13 April 2020 17:10 (four years ago) link

Ordered the Live at Summit Studios 1972 a few weeks ago, it's really great - probably one of my favorite Crimson things I've heard lately. Just a really great line-up and interesting configuration without the Mellotron.

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 April 2020 17:14 (four years ago) link

lol at their ugly kitchen units

mark s, Monday, 13 April 2020 17:42 (four years ago) link

Anyone else jealous that Fripp managed to find a wife who is just as much of an oddball as him? Us other oddballs and eccentrics have never found that joy.

Melomane, Monday, 13 April 2020 17:46 (four years ago) link

" lol at their ugly kitchen units"

their entire house is pretty ugly, if you have design tastes that were formed any time after 1965

akm, Monday, 13 April 2020 17:54 (four years ago) link

She has a definite "wear you down with bubbly energy" feel about her, I'm sure she's the instigator of these vids.
xpost

quartet for the endocrine (Matt #2), Monday, 13 April 2020 18:44 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

[Toyah dancing to Lark's Tongue.

Why don't my youtube links work?

nickn, Sunday, 31 May 2020 18:49 (three years ago) link

Why don't my youtube links work?

When you post the link, post the whole URL from the browser window, not the shortened youtu.be one that the "Share" button offers you, and change the URL from https:// to http://.

but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 31 May 2020 19:03 (three years ago) link

I think I did that. OK, I didn't take off the "s".

nickn, Sunday, 31 May 2020 21:42 (three years ago) link


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