the cult of dilla, c/d?

i have a newfound respect for the cult of dilla for the way they put charles hamilton in his place, really hilarious shit.

simey owes me money

lol the comments on the simey article are like we made a parody of what this thread is about. There's even people bashing SR for liking Ludacris.

im trying to think of another hip hop artist with fans as annoying as dilla ones. only tupac fans come close i think.

yeah they're nearly as annoying as the tone of that article

most commenters seem pretty happy with the article? maybe i'm not reading down far enuf...

ps i didn't know mr. woebot was making records now?

The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements.

jesus fucking christ, give it up you daft twat. simon reynolds writers exclusively for the bourgeoisie he affects to despise. give it up, man, you'll give yourself an ulcer from all the bad faith.

As I headed down the aisle to the back of the store where the DJ lurked, the thought popped into my head: "P'raps this is Dilla?"

ps i didn't know mr. woebot was making records now?

― goole, Wednesday, June 17, 2009 4:45 PM (2 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

ya what's up with that? is there a thread on this stuff or

fuck it, let's talk about it here. always had much respect for that guy.

the cult of woebot, c/d?

I really can't stand Simon now. Even reading Energy Flash now makes my teeth hurt. He's like the Bill Plaschke of music writing or something.

who is bill plaschke

what is google

it's kinda like bing.com

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYvua4o2tmM

http://www.mediafire.com/?mznk33mlzhy

not sure why woebot is quoted there - i know theyre mates but im sure someone a bit more related to the subject of the article could have been bothered for a quote.

If you could break his style down into three main components, they'd be his way with a vocal sample, his way with a beat, and his way with synths

seriously dude??

If you compare the original song (and do check out Caldwell's hat while you're about it) with The Light you can clearly see Dilla's artistry: he's taken an already lovely, if slightly schmaltzy, song and created another song out of it.

how ... post-modern! its almost as if he is "sampling" these records and "recontextualizing" them. interesting...

He's writing for a Grauniad audience.

i have a newfound respect for the cult of dilla for the way they put charles hamilton in his place, really hilarious shit.

― best of the badman log (some dude), Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:15 AM (9 hours ago) Bookmark

what's this about

"He's writing for a Grauniad audience."

This would be a more plausible defense if his blog wasn't filled with equally facile observations.

lol the comments on the simey article are like we made a parody of what this thread is about. There's even people bashing SR for liking Ludacris.

― Tim F, Wednesday, June 17, 2009 9:45 AM (7 hours ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

i agree but i kind of think this:

Why do you look for 60s & 70s rock? Crippling reverence towards the past?

says a lot about his weird anti-90s rap weirdness. he only likes one common song?? seriously??

He's probably only heard one Common song.

& 'the light' isnt close to his best dilla track either
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU6MwPtBZvg

xxxxp Hamilton listed J Dilla as an exec producer on his album "so the proceeds can go to the J Dilla Foundation", which apparently no longer exists. People called him out as just trying to eat off of Dilla's name and had a big bitchfit about it. Seems kinda loss-loss imo.

i do appreciate that hes acknowledged that maybe dilla is occasionally good

Britisher who isn't too invested in rap has big gaps in rap knowledge and weird opinions about rap, news at 11. I don't know why I'm defending dude, but the level of freaking out in this thread seems kind of above and beyond.

no ones freaking out. were just making fun

& 'the light' isnt close to his best dilla track either

yes, it's def close.
Rev clearly you were not alive during the 60s and therefore unable to judge when there's an actual FREAKOUT going down.

haha clearly

This is possibly the worst thread on ILM, and with the shit quality of most threads here that is really saying something.

^reliable

i wouldnt expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of dilla to be totally happy w this thread no

couldn't get much worse ... then cock walked in

"i wouldnt expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of dilla to be totally happy w this thread no

― autogucci cru (deej)"

i would expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of stupidity to be v happy with this thread.

let us pray

"i would expect a fully-licensed member of the cult of stupidity to be v happy with this thread."

And yet you are not. How strange.

alex did you just

i mean why even

it's pipecock for the sake of

nevermind

cock-baiting is an american classic

if it works the other way around, then i understand why reynolds wrote something so american-baiting

"i agree but i kind of think this:

Why do you look for 60s & 70s rock? Crippling reverence towards the past?

says a lot about his weird anti-90s rap weirdness."

Yeah I thought the line about looking for old rock was unfortunate in context. OTOH I don't think sr actually iscripplingly reverent towards 60s and 70s rock (he almost never talks about it), any more than anyone who buys soul records of old school rap is automatically a dj premier stan or owns a "dilla changed my life t-shirt."

Plus i don't think sr is actually anti-90s rap. He always seemed to love wu-tang and tupac. His hatred for biggie is obv highly offensive, of course.

any more than anyone who buys soul records of old school rap is automatically a dj premier stan or owns a "dilla changed my life t-shirt."

haa but thats sort of the nature of his bias, to the extent that he just heard 'wont do' for the first time .... i mean yeesh

"alex did you just

i mean why even

it's pipecock for the sake of

nevermind"

I know, I know. I feel dirty now.

Deej I think the whole "hearing Dilla in a record store" anecdote is set a few years back actually.

You're probably right otherwise though.

I like how he admits (if shamefacedly) to ultimately being won over by Common's performance on "The Light" after having dismissed Common out of hand for so long. Generally, I think people read a lot of condescension in his writing when often he's having a go at himself a bit. Like, I think he likes the convenience of crate-digging record stores that don't require you actually to bend down and rifle through old crates. And he knows, I think, that it's not somehow more "defensible" to go there for 60s/70s rock or avant garde stuff.

I always feel self-conscious going to the local dance record store in my suit on lunch breaks to rifle through records. Often without fully realising it I make snap value judgments about the people I see there (usually some combination of their clothes + their hair + the top record in the pile they're sampling), then remind myself that I probably look far more ridiculous.

"That night, after several hours of the choicest cuts, the dancefloor was packed, many new faces were there, evidence that Pipecock’s crusade rolled on, gathering more and more momentum with every passing day. Evidence that all those years spent relentlessly pursuing retards on messageboards were paying off. "

this thread has been huge fun

The only ones that are hanging in there, even prospering, belong to a particular type: boutiques that offer a tidied-up version of the crate-digging experience, without the dust and the graft, the knees-bent flicking through musty cardboard boxes in roach-infested basements.

this isnt much different from things that guys like premier or large professor have said over the years, tbf.

"jay stay paid" just isn't very good, is it?