Marvel Comics blabbery

i should get around to reading that one of these days (and more Gruenwald in general)

Take it to the only real contribution I’ve made to this board

I remember attempting to read Squadron Supreme because I'd heard the bullshit about it being the Marvel equivalent to the "seriousness" and "maturity" of Watchmen, and man was it a load of crap.

It’s kind of a weird, brutalist, Twilight Zone version of a comic miniseries, without Watchmen’s guardrails of literary respectability (and, I guess, “good writing”). I think Squadron’s bizarre scenarios are more disturbing, because they’re presented in a way that doesn’t tell you what to think about them.

dang new house of x got me all choked up

Liefeld is going to sue Marvel over something Deadpool related, no further info at present.

But he did reveal they tried to sue him in 1996 for creating the Fighting American so he could self-publish fake Captain America stories. His lawyer turned up to court with the Marvel anthology of Fighting American, which the company brief didn't know existed, and showed the judge the Kirby and Simon ownership credit. Marvel also tried a supplementary lawsuit that FA shouldn't be allowed to have a shield, which failed also.

Are you sardonically reporting that Liefeld has a very confused misremembering of the Agent America lawsuit that was heavily reported on at the time, or are you accidentally misreporting Liefeld’s statement today, or...?

Aldo's pretty much quoting directly from Liefeld, there.

For anyone who doesn’t remember 1996, then: unsurprisingly, Mr Liefeld’s account of events is not especially accurate.

Which would mark the first occasion of Mr. Liefeld disregarding accuracy.

unsurprisingly

my mistake

I mean, i can believe Marvel legal are dumb as shit, but stupider than Liefeld???

Note that the lawsuit was filed by Marvel because:

- four years after leaving Marvel to launch the Image imprint at Malibu, and then forming Image as a publisher with others, Rob and Jim Lee returned to Marvel to do two 12-issue series each

- Rob, having had his contracts terminated due to poor quality subcontracted hackwork by teenagers mercurial refusal to respond appropriately to editorial low sales, simply formed a new company called Awesome Comics and solicited the next issues of his Captain America run, but titled Agent America, and without wings on the side of his head. (He also changed the Carrie Kelly-style sidekick that he had gifted Cap from redhead to blonde.)

During this period Rob also:

- got fired from Image, the company he had founded, because he was using company resources and infrastructure to publish competing titles drawn by a sweatshop of teenage/college-age Liefeld impersonators (AIUI he had stopped physically assaulting said employees by this time, but who knows) under Maximum Press, another publisher he had founded

- had Maximum go bankrupt (or possibly just collapse due to incompetence?) once he was no longer able to defraud Image's office structure to solicit and print the books

- teamed up with career scam artist Scott Rosenberg as his new publishing partner on Awesome, leading to the situation where in 2018 he discovered that Rosenberg had sold the rights to Youngblood and 513 other Liefeld properties to the truly unhinged gentleman who tanked Comico around the time Image launched, heisted Bill Willingham's Elementals, and spent years trying to heist Grendel from Matt Wagner

i presume the current lawsuit is gwenpool related and if so har har har

So is this Jonathan Hickman __ of X stuff good? A friend recommended it as the best X-Men in forever. Then I read a synopsis and it sounds bananas but also baroque and near-incomprehensible?

it’s pretty good and the two conjoined series wrap up today so a collection is probably forthcoming. hopefully in a format that makes it easy to read in release order

"best X-Men in forever is a mighty low bar but these are fun to read and I look forward to rereading the whole thing in one sitting.
i am SO over the whole four-pages-of-comics-and-now-three-pages-of-"dossier"-plus-one-unnecessary-chapter-heading-page schtick that Hickman does; just give me a fucking comic already

i love it! i'm one of those guys who loved Handbook of the Marvel Universe as a kid, bear in mind
(but i doubt they'll continue this now the Dawn of X is about to start proper)
HC collection is set for December, I think

looking at the x-men costume redesigns and realizing that while Jean’s looks very retro, it’s also an insanely cosplayable design (green dress, gold gloves and headpiece). seems... canny

seems to be mostly the same as her Marvel Girl costume during the '60s era (which may/may not have some relevance to the plot)

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gives me an excuse to post this cover image

new doc doom book is very good!

Kevin Feige named Marvel Chief Creative Officer. May or may not be a great thing for the comics, but anything that takes Perlmutter further out of the loop and nudges him closer to the door is super cool. And the suggestion is that Jeph Loeb is being booted out of the tv division so double bonus imo.

Just read Immortal Hulk #25, the extra-length space apocalypse one. I don't know if this direction's gonna be <i>good</i> per se, but damn, I love that they're trying.

Love this title. Al’s done great work for ages but he’s been properly Reaganing on this run for the last year

I’m at a kids’ costume party... a girl showed up in a very authentic-looking Spider-Gwen outfit, and I was like, “OMG, that’s so cool”

Reaganing?

Al Ewing on Guardians of the Galaxy is the only writer that could make me interested in that title. Seems like a dream match, an Ultimates book that people might actually read!

Just read Immortal Hulk #25, the extra-length space apocalypse one. I don't know if this direction's gonna be <i>good</i> per se, but damn, I love that they're trying.

yeah, this ruled - i haven't enjoyed a book as much as immortal hulk in a long time

“Reaganing” = old 30 Rock joke

https://30rock.fandom.com/wiki/Reaganing

immortal #25 felt in some ways like a nod to the moore "intergalactic swamp thing" saga

Yeah, ST #60 – “Loving the Alien”

ding ding ding

Just read the Amazing Spider-Man arc, Hunted, and War of the Realms in trade - both pretty fun

hulk's turn towards apocalyptic anticapitalism in the new issue was pretty rad - this book is so good

https://people.com/human-interest/first-marvel-comic-ever-sells-record-auction/

Guys, I'm like two years late in noticing but Al totally made a Wrinklepaws reference in an issue of USAvengers. And I'm sure 99.9999999% of the readership was totally baffled.

lmao I’d completely forgotten that

I had to stop and question for a sec if I'd been mistaken in thinking of that as an ILX-exclusive reference but a quick google search confirmed that, yes, he really was just writing it for the 77 knuckleheads on this board.

I'd figure fans of the original Marvel Handbooks and Marvel Saga might like this one. I picked up the first couple issues off the stand and have enjoyed reading them. Artwork is beautiful and how Waid ties it together pretty well. The mad joy is the later section that references the issues etc.

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Anyone been following along with Dawn of X? They're apparently collecting every series into specific 'Dawn of X' trade paperbacks, really as if it's all one big story. Which at this point is up at three comics a week. It's crazy. But on a plot-level, not at all as crazy as HoXPoX

I’m psyched that a new Spider-Woman series is coming, tho I hate this cover art. Anyone have experience w/the actual creative team (Karla Pacheco & Pere Perez)? I tried looking up Perez’s artwork, and found what appears to be a softcore scene of Rogue & Gambit swimming...

I've been on the Dawn of X-train. It feels inevitably slow compared to House/Powers of X, but then I try to remember that none of these series is even past the second issue yet.

Btw, I love that artist on Handbook (Javier Rodriguez), I first caught his work on Saladin Ahmed's Exiles series.

Also ugh back to the old Spider-Woman costume

No kidding (on the costume)! Was this due to “popular demand,” or something?

Protip: they seem to be collecting all of the newer Handbook/Saga-esque material (eg History of the Marvel U, Piskor's Grand Design) in an oversized Treasury Edition format. I've been buying the individual issues but I think this might call for a rare double dip.

I had to stop and question for a sec if I'd been mistaken in thinking of that as an ILX-exclusive reference but a quick google search confirmed that, yes, he really was just writing it for the 77 knuckleheads on this board.

― War Crimes Tribunal of the Network Stars (Old Lunch), 24. marraskuuta 2019 15:51

Haha, I just read the issue in question and did exactly the same, 'cos I couldn't remember anymore whether "oh, xxxxpaws" originated here or somewhere else. Gotta love Mr. Ewing!

I'm also sure the gag he did in the U.S. Avengers tie-in of Secret Empire, where he referenced the opening narration of Asterix (HYDRA has conquered all of France! "Well... Not quite all. One small group remains...") flew over the heads of most American readers.

Anyone been following along with Dawn of X? They're apparently collecting every series into specific 'Dawn of X' trade paperbacks, really as if it's all one big story. Which at this point is up at three comics a week. It's crazy. But on a plot-level, not at all as crazy as HoXPoX

― Frederik B, Saturday, November 30, 2019 2:01 PM (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm an on-again/off-again comics guy. For the most part, I just wait until things I want to read are out in trades, but a couple months ago I scooped up all the House of X/Powers of X issues, along with the first Marauders issue which had come out that week. Then I went back this weekend hoping there'd be another issue or two and somehow there are 5 at this point! If feel like it's going to be a bit of an onslaught on my wallet if I want to check out all the Dawn of X stuff. Is it common for comics to have such an aggressive release schedule?

I don't think so, they are really trying to make a giant story out of this. There was one week with five new issues! If it helps, you can safely drop Fallen Angels, it's crap. Excalibur doesn't really have anything to do with the main plot either, I don't think. But Marauders is pretty central, and pretty good, X-Force had the most important plot point at all so far, and New Mutants is pretty good and sometimes written by Hickman as well. So that's still four series, and probably two a week... Let's see how long they can keep it up, it already seems as if it's too much to handle, with issues being delayed and moved around.

Oh hey, they're also dropping some Hickman-penned one-shots into the mix in the coming months!