How does this keep happening:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/14/tories-extend-poll-lead-to-12-despite-week-of-political-chaos
― pomenitul, Sunday, 15 September 2019 13:50 (four years ago) link
Tiny samples and push-poll style questions?
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 15 September 2019 13:57 (four years ago) link
I think you have to take polling with pinch of salt.
This poll is done by Opinium. The same company had the Tories with a 19 point lead in late April 2017, roughly 6 weeks out from election date. They did gradually downgrade that, but still gave the Tories a 7 point lead on election day.
Maybe they've improved their methodology since then. I'm not saying they're wrong, but I wouldn't have any confidence in them being right either
― anvil, Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:10 (four years ago) link
It's almost as if polls are propaganda weapons
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
the pollsters that got it bang on last election: Survation have the tories on a 5 pt lead and i wouldn't be surprised if their own private internal polling data is telling them much different. And I can live with that because they are on course to lose if true.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:19 (four years ago) link
The polls aren't there just to bolster the Tories but they get it wrong because things are so febrile and polarised and they say nothing about the geographical picture. There's no reason to get either excited or worried by them right now.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
boris spending half his life in northern marginals these days says that he is worried, and if they don't make gains there and lose to the libdems in some of their own turf, and theyve already lost scotland: bring on the fucking coalition of chaos.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:23 (four years ago) link
but I'm not getting carried away, but see some glimmers of hope and reckon they will be making Cummings lose sleep as well.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:28 (four years ago) link
I'm not remotely optimistic, the Tories will win the election, and they'll be relying on the Lib Dems for a majority this time.
― The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:32 (four years ago) link
I'm taking those last few Scottish polls as a given that they will lose at least 10 of those 13 seats there to the SNP. They've got hell on to make gains in the north and a wouldn't a ConDem alliance be a bit problematic with both of them on different drugs atm?
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:40 (four years ago) link
A Labour government would back a Royal Commission into "all" drugs lawsIf experts back decriminalisation or legalisation of cannabis, cocaine or heroine, Corbyn likely to follow Diane Abbott says all options on the table. War on drugs could end https://t.co/VhLwe2QyTW— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) September 15, 2019
― gyac, Sunday, 15 September 2019 14:48 (four years ago) link
It is a good policy and they should pay it no mind unless it creates electoral advantage
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:16 (four years ago) link
The only positive about Tom's scenario will be the reaction of FBPE Twitter when the LibDems go back into coalition in exchange for a Soft Brexit.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:17 (four years ago) link
Obviously a Labour government is way more likely to give them what they actually want, ie no Brexit at all, so obviously they're railing against the very idea.
― Matt DC, Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:18 (four years ago) link
Swindowlicker was not interrogated in the least as to why she finds government as the junior partner to Corbyn-led Labour so objectionable if there’s a chance of no Brexit through winning a ratification referendum. Andrew Marr doing bad journalism part 674664754 obvs
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:38 (four years ago) link
Also, this is LOL:
Boris Johnson asks a fortune teller for her prediction. He didn't predict she would destroy him and his politicspic.twitter.com/WeB1kD7OBE— #BlackSwan (@TheBirmingham6) September 15, 2019
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:46 (four years ago) link
articulating what she doesn't like about Labour would require her to admit that she loves the austerity and taking money off big fracking etc.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 15:50 (four years ago) link
They're not going to get a soft brexit, they'll agree to no deal in exchange for a ban on vaping.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
^
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:25 (four years ago) link
''
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
Ban on Easter Eggs if I know Swinsonhttp://1.bp.blogspot.com/_XMm2OsWNvVg/S69pJs_likI/AAAAAAAABc0/8qlC6eNA1nc/s1600/jo-swinson-easter-egg.jpg
― Stevie T, Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:33 (four years ago) link
She is such distilled essence of Liberal Democrat Wasteman it's absurd
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:36 (four years ago) link
I choose not to use the feminine conjugation of wasteman
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link
5p tax on plastic bags in exchange for benefit cuts which hugely increase the number of people who have to count their every last 5p
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
Say what you want about the carrier bag tax it worked.
Also austerity killed thousands of undesirables but swings and roundabouts.
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2019 16:48 (four years ago) link
say what you want about austerity but it worked
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 15 September 2019 17:28 (four years ago) link
It certainly achieved its aims
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 15 September 2019 17:54 (four years ago) link
granted I’m not her target demographic so not particularly predisposed to give her a fair shake... but her delivery here is just... not good. she seems so glib and kinda distracted
Lib Dem leader @joswinson says David Cameron "cannot be forgiven" for calling the EU referendum https://t.co/T0OEQdQJVB #Brexit pic.twitter.com/6MSBtrtdQN— BBC Politics (@BBCPolitics) September 15, 2019
― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:06 (four years ago) link
What about the people who propped him up and put him in a position to call it in the first place?
― Matt DC, Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:12 (four years ago) link
And actively agitated for it!
― ShariVari, Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:14 (four years ago) link
how is that jo swinson seems to get worse at communicating each and every time i see her
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:33 (four years ago) link
guys guys - knowing what your own party did is the politics of the past
― Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:42 (four years ago) link
I looked at the Incredible Hulk thing and I don't want to believe it's real.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 15 September 2019 18:54 (four years ago) link
it makes that dunderheaded "perfidious albion on speed" quip from francois seem eloquent and thoughtful.
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:17 (four years ago) link
Just going to leave this here for the Lib Dems claiming they could take Chingford & Woodford Green. The hype is just ridiculous and journalists need to be challenging this!If Lib Dems want to stop Brexit they shouldn’t risk getting IDS out #marr #sundaypolitics pic.twitter.com/G63LRHJLJp— Faiza Shaheen (@faizashaheen) September 15, 2019
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:19 (four years ago) link
deborah unger was great in crash tho tbf
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:24 (four years ago) link
deb-a-dee-dee-deb-a-dee-dee-deba-deeo deborahyou look like a deposit loseryour sunken face is like a galleonclothed with mysteries of the Spanish maino deborahay ay ay ay ay
― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
o deborahyou lost your deposit-ahyour sunken etc
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― Aston "Family Court" Barrett (Bananaman Begins), Sunday, 15 September 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
lmao jo swinson targeting a "majority LD government"... that's the LDs that currently sitting on 18 seats...
you'd think Lib Dems mourning the loss of Clegg's seat to an improperly vetted newcomer who has been a bit of a disaster (and I do feel sorry for the guy) would wonder if a party, any party, going from 12 MPs to this mythical 320+ within 2 years might just be a slightly bad idea
― a passing spacecadet, Sunday, 15 September 2019 20:51 (four years ago) link
Get out of Westminster
This is forever my favourite video #LibDemConference pic.twitter.com/BjrM76akzv— Abdi Duale (@AbdiDuale_) September 15, 2019
And a more recent one, due to popular demand #WinningHere pic.twitter.com/NanbVNnJZr— Abdi Duale (@AbdiDuale_) September 15, 2019
― gyac, Sunday, 15 September 2019 21:14 (four years ago) link
very big mood
― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Sunday, 15 September 2019 21:23 (four years ago) link
Lib Dems buying into the hard right narrative on Sadiq is it, qwhite an interesting development 👀 https://t.co/R5sJjSIx0z— Patrick Moûle 🌹 (@patrickmoule) September 15, 2019
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 22:02 (four years ago) link
good lord why am I listening to Sarah Elliot on Nolan's 5 live show at this time of night? need to neck a couple of co-dydramols with some brandy and hope I can dream about having a holiday in hell next to a lake full of piss!
― calzino, Sunday, 15 September 2019 23:30 (four years ago) link
according to the torygraph next week labour are going to unveil their plan to scrap UC starting with short term fixes like end to sanctions, five week wait etc..
― calzino, Monday, 16 September 2019 07:29 (four years ago) link
I was just about to link
SCOOP: Labour are set to soon announce plans to scrap Universal Credit in the coming weeks https://t.co/hr7Ox5cH9Q— Ben Gartside (@BenGartside) September 15, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 16 September 2019 08:06 (four years ago) link
I still get shudders at that clip of May in the commons sticking up for the rape clause, that is what a feminist looks like indeed
― calzino, Monday, 16 September 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link
Before UC, all benefit claims were activated in around two weeks from the date of application. As a freelancer I’ve had to price in ridiculous delays to payment - try surviving on £50 while an accounts department dithers for a month or two past the date you expected to be paid, without alibi or apology - and that’s horrible enough. Being at the whim of sanctions and what a Capita/Atos person ate for breakfast that day is absolutely soul-destroying, and anyone in my position should be making common cause with claimants rather than saying ‘if I can hack it, so should you’.
― coup de twat (suzy), Monday, 16 September 2019 08:18 (four years ago) link
sanctions are effectively the first steps to homelessness or you can google "commits suicide after benefits sanctions" to read pages and pages of needless tragedies caused by these evil fucks
― calzino, Monday, 16 September 2019 08:35 (four years ago) link
You do have to wonder what strain of crack some people are smoking when they accuse this guy of lacking courage. Having already faced the most sustained, most disgusting character assassination I’ve seen, here he is basically saying “come on then”. https://t.co/I0ttgOcN53— Socialist Dad (@shirleymush) September 16, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 16 September 2019 08:38 (four years ago) link
He is - I think partly because more than many politicians he is in many ways very ordinary, takes a real interest in all kinds of ordinary people, likes hearing what they have to say, and that allows him to take a broader view and ignore the BS.
― the pinefox, Monday, 16 September 2019 09:00 (four years ago) link