Is anybody else watching The Expanse?

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it is explained fairly quickly -- her powers come from these glandular modifications(?) which is in keeping with the sci-fi biotech being used for sketchy purposes that figured more in the first season.

sarahell, Saturday, 14 September 2019 21:41 (four years ago) link

The “Pinus Contorta”? Haha

Dan I., Sunday, 15 September 2019 01:22 (four years ago) link

I'm so happy I watched this show. This is right up next to tng as my favorite science fiction TV ever.

Dan I., Tuesday, 17 September 2019 02:57 (four years ago) link

Way better than TNG! (I'm not particularly a Trek fan)

chap, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 13:08 (four years ago) link

i've only started watching this (which is to say I binged all the way through the second episode of season 2) and it's really impressive. The plotting is maybe the most impressive part thus far, but the acting is mostly really good as well. Thomas Jane is great and makes for a really fine antihero/detective in over his head/asshole with a heart of gold. The character walks a fine line between understanding why most other people think he's a dick but also why he's an extremely good guy who is covering up the fact he's damaged goods. Shohreh Aghdashloo just completely owns.

What's most impressive though i think is the sense of a fully populated system -- to cite a recent example, Game of Thrones had multiple episodes taking place in a city of a million people and it felt like there were a couple thousands people at most in the entire place (vs earlier seasons, where the filmmaking was crafty enough to use less scope to hint at a more populated world). And the entire world of Westeros just felt sparsely populated, like an empty game board upon which you moved around the pieces that were main characters until half of them were gone, collected by your opponent. But here, even with a much lower budget, you get the real sense of humanity having spread out. And I appreciate the limited reach of the story; they've only gone so far into the solar system, but not beyond (at least at this point that seems to be the case). I'm sure it's been pointed out previously but it makes life in space look like a real chore, you can see how easy people have it just living a life on earth vs the strain of trying to be merely normal on an asteroid or Mars.

omar little, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:39 (four years ago) link

I've got to really get moving on my reading or renew my library loan

The books are a lot closer to the show than what I'd been led to believe, but I am guessing the deviations start to pile up after a while. With the exception of Bobbie and maybe Naomi, I've had no difficulty envisioning the tv actors in the book roles.

Really hard to cast it in a way that really gets the belter body types that are described in the novels

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:48 (four years ago) link

i know Bobbie is a main character moving forward, but I've only seen her in several scenes since they just introduced her. Even so at this point the particular intensity of that actor's performance is really something.

omar little, Tuesday, 17 September 2019 15:51 (four years ago) link

it's a good character arc, someone who's highly competent and gets fucked over and thrown into a mess, only to be offered opportunities that are completely foreign to her

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:13 (four years ago) link

They did kind of drop the "Belters can't function at 1G" thing after the early S1 gravity torture bit. I mean, I don't think they've ever shown a belter visiting earth, but there have been lots of times that belter characters have been shown to be exposed to artificial gravity sources, right? (especially that notable occasion near the end of S3) Was the guy that got tortured a special kind of never-felt-gravity Belter, or are they all supposed to be like that?

Dan I., Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link

COME DOWN BELTALOADA

Dan I., Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link

Some belters are born and develop on the float (0 g), others in places like Ganymede (0.146 g) or Ceres (0.33 g). Also in the premiere, there's a huge variation in quality of bone-development medication, ranging to sub-par (Miller's) to counterfeit (the skinny belter with the shivers).

hedonic treadmill class action (Sanpaku), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:29 (four years ago) link

makes sense!

Dan I., Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

I was reading about a real-life rocket plane test flight program yesterday and actually mumbled, "I didn't think you could take that many Gs without being on the juice"

untuned mass damper (mh), Tuesday, 17 September 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Teaser trailer for season 4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jc76QrX5Vg

Elvis Telecom, Monday, 7 October 2019 01:28 (four years ago) link

Niiiice. Burn Gorman living up to his name very explicitly there.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 00:35 (four years ago) link

i'll take that with a side of fries

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 07:57 (four years ago) link

yes!

FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 8 October 2019 16:37 (four years ago) link

Just started the books, so far so good. though it's fair to say that they don't spend a lot of time of visual descriptions--wondering how I'd be imagining most of the settings if it weren't for the TV series.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 October 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link

I imagine it as a lot crappier and more cramped than the TV also bigger physical distinctions between betters, earthers and Martians

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link

My physics nerd side still prefers the book's Razorback cabin, no larger than a Gemini capsule. There's absolutely no reason for the gimbaled seating, in a cabin larger than my living room in the TV version, aside from visual appeal. All that mass comes at a price...

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Thursday, 10 October 2019 01:44 (four years ago) link

yeah i never really got why it was so ~spacious~
seemed v impractical

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 10 October 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link

In the book avasarala gets the one couch and Bobby wedges her power armour in place and lets the armour deal with the Gs. It’s actually a much better image in my mind.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Thursday, 10 October 2019 02:09 (four years ago) link

N Y C C 2 0 1 9 :) @ExpanseOnPrime #TheExpanse pic.twitter.com/T4rXKy9hFr

— Dominique Tipper (@Mi55Tipper) October 5, 2019

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Thursday, 10 October 2019 04:37 (four years ago) link

yeah i never really got why it was so ~spacious~

That's because they are in
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... space.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Thursday, 10 October 2019 05:03 (four years ago) link

an expanse, if you will

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 10 October 2019 07:26 (four years ago) link

I have now read all the books, but have yet to read any of the short stories. a

I think I started with the series around August 20 so it’s been a ride

mh, Thursday, 10 October 2019 09:55 (four years ago) link

"Strange Dogs" gives background to some of the stuff in Tiamat's Wrath, but I found the short stories to be poorly written.

HELLA FITZGERALD (Leee), Thursday, 10 October 2019 17:21 (four years ago) link

I just enjoyed the backstory they gave to various characters like Bobbie, Amos & Johnson.

groovypanda, Friday, 11 October 2019 08:31 (four years ago) link

The writing seems pretty variable in the main books too. Perhaps one of Corey is better than the other Corey?

Chuck_Tatum, Friday, 11 October 2019 11:34 (four years ago) link

Ty Franck devised the universe of the Expanse (a binder full of background info) as setting for a tabletop role-playing game, and handles half the viewpoint chapters, including those for the character Holden. Daniel Abraham, former assistant to George R. R. Martin and published author in his own right, handles the other half of chapters, including those for detective Miller. They plotted out the 9-book arc before starting, divy up plot beats for each book, and then write their respective viewpoint chapters, then the other author reviews and lightly edits the other's chapters for continuity/science. Abraham has the harder job editing, as many of Franck's "pear-shaped" situations and air "tasting of copper" still find their way in.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Friday, 11 October 2019 15:34 (four years ago) link

Reading the novels, it's surprising how unpadded they are, despite their size. The big action set-pieces are usually resolved in just a few pages.

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 23 October 2019 23:27 (four years ago) link

with the exception of the on-planet novel that I seem to have enjoyed more than most, there’s pretty much an action/plot/character beat moment per chapter and they all move the story forward

It’s not deep literature, but as a pulpy space science fiction adventure it works really well! The dumbest criticism I’ d seen is about why all the huge galactic events seem to hinge on the actions of Holden and company. Of course it does, they’re the main characters and that’s how the genre they’re going for works!

mh, Thursday, 24 October 2019 01:31 (four years ago) link

Also, shit follows them everywhere.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Thursday, 24 October 2019 04:36 (four years ago) link

i think proto-Miller even explicitly asks Holden - have you noticed how you're always in the middle of it?

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Thursday, 24 October 2019 06:20 (four years ago) link

I love proto-Miller.

sarahell, Thursday, 24 October 2019 17:43 (four years ago) link

Was looking at the Expanse role-playing game, and the designers/illustrators seem to be under the impression that the main characters are all trolls:
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/70/ce/f1/70cef1ebb360e3f20ce24a750b6a3b4f.jpg
https://i.pinimg.com/474x/c6/39/d4/c639d4eb1d58a4b1713e142dd5d99e70.jpg

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Friday, 25 October 2019 03:46 (four years ago) link

To be fair, the broadcast series cast the crew really young. Amos in the books starts as a balding middle aged man with a paunch.

Inherent Contempt (Sanpaku), Friday, 25 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link

My internal image of Amos has always been something along the lines of Herc Hauk from the wire.

American Fear of Pranksterism (Ed), Friday, 25 October 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EI8m5r5XsAAWGgf?format=jpg&name=small

groovypanda, Saturday, 9 November 2019 17:50 (four years ago) link

Explore the unknown. #TheExpanse season 4 premieres December 13 on @PrimeVideo. pic.twitter.com/TVH96KlroC

— The Expanse (@ExpanseOnPrime) November 18, 2019

groovypanda, Monday, 18 November 2019 20:23 (four years ago) link

ヾ(^^ゞ)

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Monday, 18 November 2019 20:59 (four years ago) link

😍😍😍😍😍

Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 19 November 2019 02:38 (four years ago) link

Same day as UK election results - will be some consolation in the event of a Tory majority I suppose.

chap, Tuesday, 19 November 2019 11:13 (four years ago) link

three weeks pass...

Season 4 is up.

полезный инструмент (Sanpaku), Friday, 13 December 2019 00:06 (four years ago) link

aww chap, I just had the same thought

starting it right now and I can’t wait for Holden to start pulling rabbits out of his hat

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:24 (four years ago) link

Oh right saw a non series thing was up on pirate bay. Had serial number including 00 and I haven't had a closer look. So may be making of special or something.
So thought new season must be due.

Stevolende, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:27 (four years ago) link

watch out, there’s a series summary clip (maybe that 00 thing) narrated by... Kevin Smith

I can report that I have watched it and it summarizes the series thus far reasonably well but the attempts at humor are bad

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 00:33 (four years ago) link

thank fuck for the expanse.

it will be weird not having to wait a week in between episodes.

Li'l Brexit (Tracer Hand), Friday, 13 December 2019 01:15 (four years ago) link

they’re going a different direction with the planetary hijinks than the books and it’s working pretty well so far! (watching episode 2)

mh, Friday, 13 December 2019 01:30 (four years ago) link


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