the alt-right

Have you been waiting for a 1500 word treatise from the Claremont Institute making the intellectual case for calling David French a cuck? pic.twitter.com/tqM9HuJNkm

— Adrenochrome Harvester (@ClenchedFisk) September 13, 2019

Downtown Portland in the rain, some fun is happening against the Patriot Prayer types. Thread here:

A satanic ritual (?!) is happening in the square now. I think this is a strategy to distract from Patriot Prayer’s march, in which case: mission accomplished. pic.twitter.com/OIsVxmdDxG

— Blair Stenvick (@BlairStenvick) September 15, 2019

Milo in a crowd of fully disguised and anonymous people sounds like a bad combo.

Milo Yiannopoulos is a disgraced right wing troll who thrives on attention. This warning will be the only mention of him here. Do not allow him into MFF. Do not give him attention. Do not talk about him. Do not spread anything he says. He turns kids into Nazis. Stay away. pic.twitter.com/F87DU3YLls

— Furry Takes (@SpicyFurryTakes) September 15, 2019

Aaaand he’s out

I just want everyone to understand that the furry community kicked Milo Yiannopoulos to the curb a million times faster that the mainstream GOP pundit class ever dreamed of doinghttps://t.co/cX4BAggul7

— Jared Holt (@jaredlholt) September 16, 2019

The FBI has arrested a member of U.S. Army who allegedly discussed plans to bomb a major U.S. news network, discussed traveling to Ukraine to fight with violent far-right group, and allegedly distributed info online on how to build bombs. He also allegedly mentioned @BetoORourke.

— Mike Levine (@MLevineReports) September 23, 2019

A new career highlight for both of them

"What the fuck is Milo doing here, cornboy?" someone yelled.

Milo took the podium and said he's "fallen so hard and so far I've now been reduced to my previous career before I was a journalist and I am Mr. Wohl's personal stylist."

He then plugged some new show and went inside. pic.twitter.com/g5dyGsqs4R

— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) October 21, 2019

https://www.yahoo.com/news/proud-boys-sentenced-new-york.html

glad to see them described as an "extremist street gang" in a mainstream pub tbh

oh that's syndicated from HuffPost lol whatever ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

yeah i was like - this is surprisingly antifascist for yahoo.com

there are some things in here I'm not sure I'd agree with (primarily involving who is classified as what), but the overarching hypothesis seems reasonable

https://www.wired.com/story/not-youtubes-algorithm-radicalizes-people/

The thing is, we had a sort of rebranded nazi party which became so big on YouTube that they could run for parliament, and after they were at long last banned from the algorithm for racism, the viewership of their videos fell 87%.

Interesting one for me listed there is Red Ice TV, I'm familiar with them from around 2007 when they were a conspiracy theory interview podcast called Red Ice Creations with my flatmate used to listen to all the time. The host was a very softly spoken Swedish guy, the show was interesting to listen to as I got the impression that he shared my opinion that the interviewees were people with fascinating delusions who he respected for their power to create and live in alternative realities. But looks like I may have been wrong about this.

full paper, by the way, is here https://osf.io/73jys/

again, there are some things I'm not sure about, for instance this: It can take days or weeks to produce one hour's worth of text content on Facebook or Twitter, but in some cases, creating one hour's worth of video content takes exactly one hour.

I mean... sure? if you're already someone established enough to livestream, live, with zero production values whatsoever, and have people care. but if you're not, this is not really going to get you any traction (as anyone who's stumbled upon, like, low-production-value let's plays with 40 views knows). the stuff that goes viral is either by a person who is known, or at least known in fringe circles (or tenacious/gonzo enough at self promoting that they can become so), and/or has surprisingly high production values

(which seems like a nitpick, but half the framework of the study is that there is a greater supply of videos largely for this reason)

i haven't read the whole paper but i don't really like what i'm getting from the wired story, it's got this "well, ACTUALLY..." vibe to it, the idea that people are fundamentally "moderates" who are "radicalized" is certainly a questionable assumption but a lot of it comes across like an apologia for youtube, which i don't think is necessary?

My main takeaway was that the audience already existed, it was just underserved. That certainly feels correct to me.

I also didn’t understand the way they compared viewership numbers between cable and youtube? It seemed like they just made up an arbitrary ratio to represent “globalness” and assumed a can opener

to be fair "making up an arbitrary ______" describes more viewership numbers than you'd think

as far as the "well actually," that's kind of to be expected when presenting any sort of counter-argument; it did not come off as an apologia for youtube so much as "it's not as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube"

as far as the "well actually," that's kind of to be expected when presenting any sort of counter-argument; it did not come off as an apologia for youtube so much as "it's not as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube"

― like, I’m eating an elephant head (katherine)

but is anybody arguing that it _is_ as simple as unplugging the third reich feeding tube, or are people just arguing that, you know, unplugging the third reich feeding tube might be a good thing, all things considered? the whole "counter-argument" aspect of it just strikes me as questionable framing

Not sure what the full story is here, but looks like popcorn time to me

Milo just uploaded leaked audio of Richard Spencer reacting to the death of Heather Heyer and the negative press it did to his movement.

Just in case there was any question of the so-called "dapper white nationalist" being a raged fuelled hateful monster.

Explicit warning. pic.twitter.com/KpVk2fLYSu

— BAILEY, THE LIBTARDTARIAN 🃏 (@atheist_cvnt) November 4, 2019

What a sad pathetic human

remember when people wrung their hands bc he got punched? remember that? you remember when people said that it was bad? people said that.

i just sitting here remembering his nice little chat on NPR

"Octaroons"? Wtf. I imagine that Trump's ranting in private is similar in tone if a little less ideologically ornate. (I do by the way know what an octaroon is but I kind of doubt Spencer would know one if he saw one.)

But when it comes to spending time on the internet talking about how great punching people is, well...I'd posit that if you're such a fan of punching, it's best to just get out there and do it, and limit the amount of energy you devote to talking about it.

no

it’s very good that people perform open heart surgery but ya don’t see me slicing up people’s torsos!!! i leave that to the pros, just like i leave nazi-punchin to antifa.

guys i think richard spencer is cancelled now

i have to wonder where milo uploaded that given that he's banned from every social platform except for maybe planet penguin iirc

Point:

But when it comes to spending time on the internet talking about how great punching people is, well...I'd posit that if you're such a fan of punching, it's best to just get out there and do it, and limit the amount of energy you devote to talking about it.

― viborg, Monday, November 4, 2019 12:23 AM (six hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Counterpoint:

Richard Spencer vs Rage Against the Machine pic.twitter.com/jzGLS4eNtM

— Jack Sprat (@Jacqueimo) January 21, 2017

More story itt

In an attempt to push back on attacks on followers of white nationalist Nick Fuentes, who represent a pro-Trump wing of the Alt-Right, Milo Yiannopoulos has published a damning audio clip of Richard Spencer following Unite the Right. Don't lose site of the big picture, a thread. pic.twitter.com/j1zqstvPst

— It's Going Down (@IGD_News) November 4, 2019

https://gizmodo.com/8chan-is-back-and-calling-itself-8kun-now-1839592841

lmao, rip in peace this huge-headed oaf's youtube channel

YouTube banned Sebastian Gorka because he won't stop playing Imagine Dragons on his channel. https://t.co/7Jiuvd0Jda

— Will Sommer (@willsommer) November 5, 2019

Gorka, who didn’t respond to requests for comment, didn’t appear to realize on Monday afternoon that his channel had been deleted. After one Twitter user complained that Gorka’s links were going to his now-deleted channel, Gorka mocked the poster, tweeting “you really should try harder” and ending the message with a laughing-crying emoji.

You really should try harder.

Try searching for my YouTube channel again.

You and your 13 followers!

😂😂😂 https://t.co/k2VPX1fvxS

— Sebastian Gorka DrG (@SebGorka) November 4, 2019

I wish it were because they're cracking down hard on fascism but cracking down on Imagine Dragons is nearly as good

Proud Boys lawyer Jason Lee Van Dyke, a violent racist with a penchant for murder threats, boldly accepts the fascist label he's always had, claiming that he's more of a Mussolini than a Hitler.

Big day for fascists telling on themselves!

(h/t @popehat) pic.twitter.com/pY2hLgYp0q

— Andy Campbell (@AndyBCampbell) November 4, 2019

Is it really telling on yourself if you are proud to be a fascist? The fact these guys try so hard to hide their beliefs and cultivate an air of respectability is the most pathetic aspect of their whole schtick. They know it's unacceptable and that they aren't going to convince most people otherwise, so they dance around the truth.

why is Gorka's twitter name "Sebastian Gorka DrG" and his handle "@SebGorka"

where is his branding consultant

also lol at him trying to appearance-shame other right-wing commentariat

gotta emphasize that he has a doctorate. which he got from a diploma mill.

I'm a bit late on the Spencer tape thing -- but from reading "Everything you love will burn", the punching actually gave Spencer some street cred within the movement. Prior to it he was seen as a 'suit' not involved in the 'real' movement.

sad https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/paypal-moves-to-terminate-far-right-youtube-personality-stefan-molyneuxs-account/

rip big man, heaven needed an extremely stupid white nationalist 'philosopher'

I wish it were because they're cracking down hard on fascism but cracking down on Imagine Dragons is nearly as good

― esempio (crüt), Tuesday, November 5, 2019 1:23 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

in case anyone wants to do some digging, this is horrifyingly unsurprising

Apparently the entire SQL database of the international neo-fascist Iron March forum (where Atomwaffen first properly organised). Contains info on all users, including user emails, IP address, and private messages, as well as all posts and comments. Enjoy. https://t.co/iq8D7IRorU pic.twitter.com/GTzz31HxGs

— Jake Hanrahan (@Jake_Hanrahan) November 6, 2019

oops sorry meant to link to a different tweet discussing how many active duty US military are included in this dump… "a lot"

haha awesome, the more exposure the better

yeah plz link to that as well!

more info in follow up tweets

Going through this, there are a *lot* of active duty U.S. soldiers on this forum. https://t.co/PmwvS6uNin

— Aric Toler (@AricToler) November 6, 2019

also use a VPN if you're gonna try downloading that archive

NYC Psychology Professor Secretly Moonlights As White Nationalist Co-Host Of Richard Spencer's Podcast

For years, Joshua Dietz has taught psychology at New York City’s public and private universities. Students at Kingsborough Community College describe him as a “modern professor,” easygoing and informal. He plays guitar in his spare time, and maintains a hypnosis practice in Downtown Brooklyn, providing emotional counseling and “assertiveness training.” He was an adjunct at St. Francis College, just a few blocks away, as recently as last fall.

But when he’s not teaching undergrads or hypnotizing passive men, Dietz is lecturing under another name: Josh Neal, avowed white nationalist and co-host of Richard Spencer’s podcast.

Operating under that thinly-veiled moniker, Dietz hosts the McSpencer Group alongside Spencer, perhaps the best known American neo-Nazi and a founding member of the so-called alt-right. For hours at a time, Dietz and a rotating selection of guests help plot the future of the white identity movement, touching on subjects from eugenics to Kurt Cobain (“a symbol of white displacement”) to the “negrofication” of American culture.

interesting thread

Thread: The booing of Charlie Kirk, Don Jr, and Kimberly Guilfoyle by alt-right activists was the culmination of a month-long campaign that received no press attention.

— Matthew Sheffield (@mattsheffield) November 11, 2019