I’ll pang it up!
Wish all his catalog was on Spotify so I could make a great “best-of” playlist.
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:30 (four years ago) link
Where are you based? I see all his LPs on the USA Spotify.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
Canada. We’re missing at least Hotel Shampoo.
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Friday, 13 September 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
Dyfal donc a lanlwythir yr ôl-gatalog...For Guerrilla's 20th anniversary re-issue, we've uploaded the video for "Do Or Die" in vibrant hi-definition with the newly re-mastered audio to our YouTube channel.Pre-order Guerrilla: https://t.co/Dw8ZUksFNghttps://t.co/9GBNOGPg3Y— super furry animals (@superfurry) October 22, 2019
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 23 October 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
Woah, they recorded a demo for Love Lraft's 'Frequency' during the Guerrilla sessions:
Of these, the triumphant and dense "The Citizen's Band" (originally a hidden track before"Check It Out") is among the most wonderfully tight, blissful, and catchy. Elsewhere, the urgent acoustic number "Hand in Hand" (which would eventually become "Frequency" on Love Kraft) is engrossing. "Y Teimland" packs Paul McCartney-esque piano-based poppiness. "John Spex" is a full-blown electronic jam that's downright hypnotic, if a bit repetitious. Whether it's new material or alternate versions of Guerrilla staples, these add-ons are very cool.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:41 (four years ago) link
I don't see "Citizens Band" anywhere here
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link
I'm guessing it's still a negative track?
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 18:13 (four years ago) link
A rewindie...
― Mark G, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 19:43 (four years ago) link
Though I'm not sure how that works out with the vinyl. Probably just gonna tack it onto that extra b-sides set.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:31 (four years ago) link
Pretty excited to hear the demos this time. 'Wherever I Lay My Phone" should be interesting.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 30 October 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
Guerrilla is probably my favorite album of all time, so I was going to like the reissue anyway, but I think they did a bang-up job on this one. It sounds phenomenal. It’s also got an 11-minute mix of “Somer Things Come from Nothing,” which is a song that I could probably listen to an hour-long mix of. Superb.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 1 November 2019 13:13 (four years ago) link
The Vinyl doesn't have any extra tracks, though?
― Mark G, Friday, 1 November 2019 13:25 (four years ago) link
Digital/CD.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 1 November 2019 13:30 (four years ago) link
I don't fuck with vinyl too much anymore, unfortunately.
Citizen's Band follows the main album on Spotify
― PaulTMA, Friday, 1 November 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
Citizen's Band is on Side A of the vinyl.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 1 November 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link
Ar gael i ffrydio yng ngogledd America am y tro cyntaf. 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸Now available to stream for the first time in North America. 🇨🇦🇺🇸🇨🇦🇺🇸https://t.co/pWAFHBxgfM— super furry animals (@superfurry) November 4, 2019
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 4 November 2019 20:11 (four years ago) link
Guerrilla now on North American Spotify. Sadly lacks the extended Some Things.
― afriendlypioneer, Thursday, 7 November 2019 21:19 (four years ago) link
Listened to the remaster. It's my first time hearing Guerrila in maybe 10 years, and first time ever hearing the b-sides. It's a shame "Citizen's Band" and some of the b-sides aren't on the album proper over, say, "Nightvision", "The Teacher", or "The Door...". Guerrilla is still my least favorite of the early albums by quite a bit, but now I realize it's mostly a matter of what they selected
― Vinnie, Friday, 8 November 2019 00:15 (four years ago) link
Turrican came to me in a dream to tell me he'd gotten off the bus
― PaulTMA, Friday, 8 November 2019 12:02 (four years ago) link
Have you seen him,Mr Turrican-thread-wrecker?I'm his bodyguard and protectorDon't remember where I lost himWhen did he get off the bus?
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 8 November 2019 16:05 (four years ago) link
'Night Vision' and 'The Teacher' are two of my favs. The latter is a bit light weight, but it's Gruff's ode to Bunf and I love Bunf.
― afriendlypioneer, Friday, 8 November 2019 16:06 (four years ago) link
Had a flashback of the Barrowlands 1999 gig after SFA posted the tour poster on IG the other day - I remember both songs being played live, for the only time I can remember. Also only time I can remember seeing an eccied guy dry-humping his friend in time to the outro of Mountain People
― PaulTMA, Friday, 8 November 2019 17:45 (four years ago) link
Well this was certainly a surprise:
29/01/2020@DasKoolies https://t.co/41rHCzF6Vc pic.twitter.com/Hem4AlGESl— Shaun Gordon (@slipp3000) January 27, 2020
I presume this means they're back... under a different name.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 January 2020 20:17 (four years ago) link
If you don't recall:
HB: That's right. When we were recording Guerrilla, it was such an overly ostentatious studio, ironically called The Real World. You had so much room. [keyboard/electronics man] Cian started getting bored, I think. There was a lot of waiting around and dissecting, so we ended up starting a parallel band called Das Koolies. We all took on different characters. I think the Stereophonics were next door and they came in to see what we were doing, so we exposed them to Das Koolies. Their late drummer, he was quite taken aback. He said to concentrate on what we were doing.
― afriendlypioneer, Monday, 27 January 2020 20:21 (four years ago) link
It's a shame "Citizen's Band" and some of the b-sides aren't on the album proper over, say, "Nightvision", "The Teacher", or "The Door...". Guerrilla is still my least favorite of the early albums by quite a bit, but now I realize it's mostly a matter of what they selected― Vinnie, Thursday, November 7, 2019 7:15 PM (two months ago)
Completely disagree.
There was actually an interview in the press cycle for 'Guerilla' where they talked about sequencing the album and how the moment they elected to cut 'The Matter of Time' in favor of the 'The Teacher' was a point of no return. The initial songs on Guerilla are something like the establishing scenes in Gremlins 2, before the picture descends into plotless anarchy and exaggerated Tex Avery gags take over. The just exists in its own cartoon universe where the laws of fixed identity don't apply. It's a totally unique entry in alternative rock and its only real companion pieces are by Yann Tomita and Daphne and Celeste.
The period leading up to the release of 'Guerilla' was easily the most exciting time to be a SFA fan and I've coveted these demos and outtakes ever since. But the biggest surprise turned out to be the level of inspiration in the oldest demo for 'Colorblind'. Before it was fleshed out into a full song and given a plodding classic rock arrangement, 'Colorblind' was a mission statement that encapsulated the over-the-top zaniness of Guerilla and had the potential to be one of its central tracks. I can almost hear Joe Dante's gremlins on vocals.
'Fire in My Heart' is the only real dud. It's too earnest and too obvious at the same time. I think Gruff probably intended it to be the token country number per his "jukebox" concept, but that intention was lost in the band's interpretation of the song. Just like 'Mario Man' subtly foreshadowed the turn they would take on 'Radiator', 'Citizens Band' is unfortunately the track that resonates with the RATW-Love Kraft period of SFA. I enjoyed it very much, but never would have believed that it pointed out the direction of their future. When Gruff said 'Guerilla' was going to be both the most experimental thing they'd done and also the most pop, you thought they'd continue along vaguely those lines rather than go on to make records that Mojo magazine readers would salivate over.
It's only through the lens of their Epic albums that Guerilla feels like an outlier in their catalog, or whatever Stereogum wrote. At the time it was almost the culmination of everything they'd promised, though its goofiness came as a surprise. No matter; 'Guerilla' will go down as the time the Super Furry Animals' antics got the better of them and they couldn't hold a record together. They would never be that cool again.
Put 'Matter of Time' on the album and take 'The Teacher' off, and all this is negated.
Re: the talk upthread about whether they should have packed it in sooner, I can live without everything they did after Mwng. Not that they've ever made a bad record by any means, but Rings established a stylistic continuity coupled with a rounding off of their edges that characterizes all 3 Epic albums, and that their third act never redeemed. There are some excellent bits of music on all of their albums but that was the last thing I would ever want or expect from SFA and I'm baffled that nobody else seems to think so. All lack the urgency of their late '90s material and 'Love Kraft' seemed like a natural place to stop.
Kinda hoping this Das Koolies record is more outtakes from Guerilla rather than a new project with Gruff absent or involved a diminished capacity, which is probably what it is.
― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 02:59 (four years ago) link
...We were, after all, promised an album of electronic music that never materialized in addition to the album of Welsh language songs that did.
― Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 03:10 (four years ago) link
I have a feeling you’re OTM about it being SFA without Gruff, unfortunately.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 03:53 (four years ago) link
I've seen elsewhere that it's new music per Kliph. Guessing it's some sort of Cian project with appearances from everyone not named Gruff.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 14:34 (four years ago) link
Though I've heard Guto is just another name for Gruff, or maybe it's the reverse. Can someone confirm?
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 14:35 (four years ago) link
It's the diminutive of Gruffudd (which is Gruff's full name) but also a name in its own right here in Wales.
Anyway, they've started posting some brief snippets
29.01.2020 pic.twitter.com/6CUE7slbnY— Das Koolies (@DasKoolies) January 28, 2020
― groovypanda, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 21:33 (four years ago) link
I guess all will be revealed in about three hours. I'm hoping for something that sounds like the great outros they were blasting out in 2015/2016.
― afriendlypioneer, Tuesday, 28 January 2020 21:42 (four years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S41DTo8PzmY&feature=youtu.be
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:04 (four years ago) link
ooof this is basically a Primal Scream outtake
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:08 (four years ago) link
My god it sounds like La Isla Bonita with a Moog Taurus.
― Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 00:27 (four years ago) link
Certainly not at all what I expected. Love the last couple minutes.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:41 (four years ago) link
Meh-ng
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:45 (four years ago) link
Turrican’s specter is haunting this thread.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:47 (four years ago) link
youchhh. Sounded like a 12" remix of 1m30 song. Give me Love Kraft II already :)
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 01:53 (four years ago) link
Don't know how accurate it is but seen one tweet saying they're made up of 4/5 of SFA so guess Gruff isn't involved
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 08:44 (four years ago) link
Das Koolies comprises SFA mainstays Huw ‘Bunf’ Bunford, Cian Ciarán, Dafydd Ieuan and Guto Pryce, although not at this stage Gruff Rhys (who has his own new solo album coming later in 2020). Instead, Bunford, Ciarán and Ieuan have shared lead vocals on “It’s All About The Dolphins”, which is billed as a song about “a specific case of animal mistreatment”.According to the press release, “More material follows, with more diverse inspiration, more voices taking to the front and more free musical expression.
According to the press release, “More material follows, with more diverse inspiration, more voices taking to the front and more free musical expression.
From Uncut
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 12:43 (four years ago) link
if this is the quality of material I can expect from "SFA minus Gruff" then I guess he really was the glue huh
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:38 (four years ago) link
Don't think much of their non-Gruff material was ever highly regarded anywhere, though there are some highlights...
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:49 (four years ago) link
I liked the Acid Casuals album but of what I've heard, that's about it.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:52 (four years ago) link
Seems the decline in their popularity started with Love Kraft, when the other guys started writing and singing songs. I'm sure it's not as simple as that. Any band that's around 10 years has it hard. I like some of theiir songs, particularly Bunf's 'White Socks/Flip Flops' on the last album.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:54 (four years ago) link
In any case, I hear Gruff's new solo album is a power pop version of Babelsberg.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:55 (four years ago) link
"Sex War and Robots" is a top 20 SFA tune for moi.
― bold caucasian eroticism (Simon H.), Wednesday, 29 January 2020 14:56 (four years ago) link
I like nearly every non-Gruff SFA song to make it to an album, tbh
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:19 (four years ago) link
'Mt.' and 'Back on a Roll' are the only ones I find subpar, but I've noticed the general consensus around the other guys' songs is usually kinda negative.
― afriendlypioneer, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 15:28 (four years ago) link
It's funny, I have a friend who didn't realise Cabin Fever wasn't Gruff...
― PaulTMA, Wednesday, 29 January 2020 16:16 (four years ago) link