there's really only one option isn't there
― ciderpress, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:23 (four years ago) link
Wait - The Archandroid was their album of the year one year and they didn’t even nominate it?
― gyac, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:24 (four years ago) link
they're clearly trolling for clicks
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:27 (four years ago) link
Why are we even doing this? Alexis Petridis has already explained why Back to Black is objectively the greatest album of the 21st century.
― pomenitul, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
NV I applaud you
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
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"Hi, I'm Peter Walker and I approve of this message"
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link
1 is probably the best but none of it is from the 21st century so American Idiot because "Jesus of Suburbia"?
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
I'm surprised Julia Wolfe didn't make it.
― All along there is the sound of feedback (Sund4r), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:39 (four years ago) link
she might be in the 51-100 stretch
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
this is every journalist headshot pic.twitter.com/4SxZTgpn1k— Ruchira Sharma (@RuchoSharma) March 19, 2019
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:40 (four years ago) link
So, according to Guardian only chart-topping pop/rock/rap albums are good?
― Tuomas, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
well it's a populist paper, they'll be pandering to their core readers
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
This isn't the real guardian top 50, it is a funny joke, think it is probably the bestseller list.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link
Ah, okay. Hahaha.
― Tuomas, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
"Camaraderie at Arms Length is a troll. I'm Guardian journalist Peter Walker and I can assure you this is the real list."
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
So many epochal albums on this list, but in the end the choice is obvious. A crime they left off Lukas Graham - Lukas Graham, though.
― Frederik B, Friday, 13 September 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link
i honestly thought Lukas Graham was a bloke
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
Awaiting the inevitable Alice Cooper scenario of the lead singer going solo and taking the name for himself.
― Siegbran, Friday, 13 September 2019 17:23 (four years ago) link
damn what a century, up there with the best
― nashwan, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:13 (four years ago) link
Can’t believe I got Peter Walkered. This is why I normally stay out of ILM. I’ll leave the final word on this to the big man himself
As long as we’re agreed you’re a liar and a fake. Hope the weather in St Petersburg is nice this summer.— Peter Walker (@peterwalker99) August 16, 2019
― gyac, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:21 (four years ago) link
I voted for American Idiot. I can understand why it didn't come top, but it shouldn't have been five places below Back to Black as the gap in quality isn't that big. Similarly the Shakira album should have been closer to Breakaway by at least a couple of places, and shouldn't have been below the Blink 182 album at all, that album being in turn better than the Adele album but worse than Stripped by Xtina, a worthy contender sold short by the Guardian's notoriously byzantine list-generation processes
Great list though
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:32 (four years ago) link
My son loves that Shakira 2010 world cup tune, tbf it's pretty good!
― calzino, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:36 (four years ago) link
Of course, a lot of dark arts go on with these things, and this being 2019 the list will doubtlessly have been cynically rejigged to drive clicks and keep PR men happy, cf three (!) Coldplay entries, a bit excessive even for me, and tokenistic nonsense like Usher (remember him?)
A well-connected media contact actually slipped me a bit of paper that was purportedly the original, objectively correct list earlier today, but there was some kind of mix up and it just had "fuck terfs" printed on it in 72pt comic sans
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 13 September 2019 19:44 (four years ago) link
not a single album I like, well done
― Οὖτις, Friday, 13 September 2019 19:46 (four years ago) link
xp, I’m still on the G2 writers’ Slack and Dave Simpson is going spare about Get Rich Or Die Tryin’ placing. He says he voted for Jack Johnson twice (?). I won’t c&p as this isn’t on 77 but wow.
― ShariVari, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
american idiot
― flappy bird, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:13 (four years ago) link
this is such a shit list. the guardian has really become a shadow of it's former self
― imago, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
xp nah he's from leeds, isn't he?
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:15 (four years ago) link
Sincere apologies as I thought this thread actually was on 77 when I made my last post (a bit of common sense next time please noodle!!), and my first post was in fact intended to be posted directly as a comment under the Guardian article in question, where the corrections would have been of more benefit
Regrettably I had once again become disorientated by my many hernias
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:19 (four years ago) link
Voting for the Backstreet Boys, such a bold move for them to cover the Stones' greatest album in full.
― Gavin, Leeds, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:21 (four years ago) link
ILM is a different country
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
only one of these records is literally all Number One Hits
― mookieproof, Friday, 13 September 2019 20:32 (four years ago) link
Dave S is a pro and will of course bounce back from this,and despite all else will have allowed himself a wry chuckle at Gaz Coombes sneaking on there from waaaaay outta leftfield. A couple of People in the Know, formerly of this parish, just advised me there were a few wags involved who were *this close* to sneaking Fischerspooner in there, before those upstairs of course caught wind of the fledgling operation and smashed it like one would smash a crab with a hammer
― Dadjokke (Sgt. Biscuits), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:45 (four years ago) link
i was kinda shocked by the number of voters for Invincible in the end, especially the (much-loved political commentator) guy who finished his blurb by claiming that the recent Jackson documentary was a QAnon false flag
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:50 (four years ago) link
who funds you NV
― nashwan, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:18 (four years ago) link
This list is fucking horrible. I'm voting the Beatles - 1 in protest, as a collection of the Beatles' #1 hits is better than everything else on this list by not just a mile but a fucking planet's distance, and despite the fact that it's clearly out of place as none of the music was recorded or altered outside of maybe mastering from their 60's origins.
― octobeard, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:29 (four years ago) link
I mean Coldplay is on this list THREE TIMES. wtf people
― octobeard, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:30 (four years ago) link
I gave them all three of my votes
― L'assie (Euler), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:35 (four years ago) link
I feel like the Coldplay albums offer a genteel English counterbalance to the sheer weight of Eminem albums on the list. FFS Guardian journos stop obsessing over him!
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link
WHERE ARE TOOL!??!
― kraudive, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link
Look, Taylor Swift made the list, say no more.
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:40 (four years ago) link
Easy vote for Jack Johnson. It's the kind of album that gives you faith in the future of music. It is not rock and roll, but it’s nothing stereotyped as jazz either. All at once, it owes almost as much to the techniques developed by rock improvisors in the last four years as to John'son's jazz background. It is part of a transcendental new music which flushes categories away and, while using musical devices from all styles and cultures, is defined mainly by its deep emotion and unaffected originality.
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
BLACK MUSIC SUCKS!!>!?**
― kraudive, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:42 (four years ago) link
Dave S is a pro and will of course bounce back
I hope so but I haven’t seen him so steamed since Caspar made him cover Alexandra Stan for New Band Of The Day (“if this is how far we have fallen they can shove their £20 a column”, etc).
― ShariVari, Friday, 13 September 2019 21:44 (four years ago) link
Maybe if it was Folklore or Whoa, Nelly!...
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link
gotta vote for 50g-g-g-g-g-G-u-NIT!!for real that's the best album
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Saturday, 14 September 2019 02:15 (four years ago) link
genuinely did not know that gaz coombes album was called matador until now
― ufo, Saturday, 14 September 2019 02:35 (four years ago) link
this has such chaotic energy, I love it -- I voted for Back to Black
― winters (josh), Saturday, 14 September 2019 04:57 (four years ago) link
I understand Nickelback on the list more than I understand U2 on the list.
― Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Saturday, 14 September 2019 05:23 (four years ago) link
Gaz Coombes
― hot dog go to bathroom (cajunsunday), Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:04 (four years ago) link
There is only 1 album on this list that can't be beat.
― ☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:27 (four years ago) link
Yeah but what will finish 2nd to Gaz I wonder
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 September 2019 12:17 (four years ago) link
Naming no names but it all got very personal and unnecessary on the G2 Slack last night (“if Sheffield Hallam let me start selling my plasma again I’ll never have to speak to any of you fuckers for the rest of my days”, etc).
Say what you like about ILX but if we don’t agree which order the best albums should go in, we generally keep it civil.
― ShariVari, Saturday, 14 September 2019 12:33 (four years ago) link
hahaha whaaaat? you hate to see it!
― ogmor, Saturday, 14 September 2019 12:39 (four years ago) link
confessions, either one
― american bradass (BradNelson), Saturday, 14 September 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link
Might ask a mod to move this to 77, last thing we need is more beef with the G2 massive
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 September 2019 13:38 (four years ago) link
gotta vote for 50
g-g-g-g-g-G-u-NIT!!
for real that's the best album
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, September 13, 2019 10:15 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
― lowercase (eric), Saturday, 14 September 2019 13:46 (four years ago) link
If those were the best 50 albums of the 21st century I wouldn't like music. At all.
― stranded, Monday, 16 September 2019 08:16 (four years ago) link
i feel for you babe
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 September 2019 11:03 (four years ago) link
G-g-g-g-gaz INNIT
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 16 September 2019 12:46 (four years ago) link
that ^^^
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 September 2019 12:48 (four years ago) link
I listened to all of In It For The Money today and it's genuinely good
― imago, Monday, 16 September 2019 12:51 (four years ago) link
― a wagon to the curious (Noodle Vague), Monday, 16 September 2019 12:52 (four years ago) link
Did you intentionally leave out Gay Dad? Not cool.
Will have to be voting Gaz.
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 16 September 2019 12:53 (four years ago) link
I started at the bottom with 1989 and clicked it and then slowly scrolled up waiting to find something better and never did.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Monday, 16 September 2019 13:27 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 29 September 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
last chance to vote for the real best albums of the noughties, folks
― Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:22 (four years ago) link
That Dido went from Queen of Carthage to Queen of the Charts was a real landmark of feminsim and an inspiration to us all. Well, the birds and that. Well done Dido - she gets my vote.
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Sunday, 29 September 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link
a real g goes a to z (gaz)
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Sunday, 29 September 2019 15:43 (four years ago) link
It's such an odd list. You'd think The Guardian would have stuffed it full of people who are fashionable right now, or were fashionable until recently, or who get good press - Robyn, Billie Eilish, Sam Smith, Tegan And Sara, etc.
Or is this an arch Ilxor joke? It's an arch Ilxor joke, isn't it. The Guardian's list has a hundred entries. It's still pretty crap but it's not as bad as this. The Guardian's list describes Lily Allen as "the voice of a generation", those exact words. Or is this from the print edition of the paper? There's no Grouper, no Benoît Pioulard. Is it satire? It's satire.
Of all the albums in that list the only one I own is A Day Without Rain, which I have so far never listened to. I've copied the contents of the compact disc into iTunes, but I've never listened to it. I like to imagine that Enya exists outside of lists like this because she's inoffensive and barely ever promotes herself. She is without sin. Not like the others.
After skimming through The Guardian's actual list of a hundred albums there are two dozen good ones. The best is Untrue by Burial. It exists on a higher level than the other records.
― Ashley Pomeroy, Sunday, 29 September 2019 22:41 (four years ago) link
this has to be a troll poll
― Dan S, Sunday, 29 September 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 30 September 2019 00:01 (four years ago) link
ILM understands
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 September 2019 01:18 (four years ago) link
Ok I guess I need to listen to Gaz Coombes.
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 September 2019 02:52 (four years ago) link
Why did this album win and why I haven’t heard anyone on ILM mention it before. Is this a joke I’m not aware of?
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 September 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link
it's a joke
― Non stop chantar (crüt), Monday, 30 September 2019 02:58 (four years ago) link
get familiar!!!
― j., Monday, 30 September 2019 03:10 (four years ago) link
GAZ familiGAZ
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 September 2019 03:24 (four years ago) link
(nb: i may not have heard any music by this guy but his name is gaz coombes)
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Monday, 30 September 2019 03:25 (four years ago) link
Good turn-out and of course a pleasure to see Gaz vindicated as 150 percent better than the Beatles.
― Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 September 2019 06:07 (four years ago) link
Xpost: Oh thank god, I felt like I was going crazy, listened to the first trio of songs and they were very unremarkable
― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Monday, 30 September 2019 06:21 (four years ago) link
Why did this album win and why I haven’t heard anyone on ILM mention it before.
this is a challenging question though
― now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Monday, 30 September 2019 06:52 (four years ago) link
Guess there are still people on ILM who don't really *love* music
― Dominc Coombesings (Noodle Vague), Monday, 30 September 2019 07:24 (four years ago) link
These results are chefliss.jpg, ty NV for your invaluable service <3
― Le Bateau Ivre, Monday, 30 September 2019 07:26 (four years ago) link
chefkiss even
I voted Jack Johnson this is bullshit
― nashwan, Monday, 30 September 2019 07:55 (four years ago) link
i forgot to vote for dido why didnt she win
― Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Monday, 30 September 2019 12:59 (four years ago) link
I hope somebody writes an article about ILM and uses this as an example of the current consensus and Gaz suddenly gets all kinds of critical plaudits and gets p4k album of the century
― mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 30 September 2019 13:40 (four years ago) link
American Idiot too low
― president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Monday, 30 September 2019 16:55 (four years ago) link