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IIRC my position in that discussion was to agree that a private individual can't have a veto over the behaviour of a privately-owned operation, but that same private individual has every right to hold, and express, an opinion about the way that privately-owned operation behaves.

Tim, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:31 (four years ago) link

More simply, criticising an editorial policy is not the same as exercising a veto over that editorial policy.

Tim, Friday, 13 September 2019 09:32 (four years ago) link

Yes - I think that's right.

But I think that demanding that a magazine reviews your book, and expressing outrage when they don't, tends to cross from the one thing that we think is OK, to the other thing that we don't.

the pinefox, Friday, 13 September 2019 10:27 (four years ago) link

there's nothing *wrong* with it -- it's just petulant and childish

typical author stuff really

mookieproof, Friday, 13 September 2019 13:12 (four years ago) link

wrt diversity, does the LRB still advertise for staff/interns only in its own pages? it used to. And does it still receive a grants form the Arts Council?

fetter, Friday, 13 September 2019 14:24 (four years ago) link

three months pass...

I put this on the poetry thread but worth mentioning that the LRB archives are currently open, until (I think) the end of January.

Has anyone got any recommendations? I enjoyed this Michael Wood piece on ghosts: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n01/michael-wood/icicles-by-cynthia

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:01 (four years ago) link

low-hanging i guess (weird dinosaur biz) -- and also in the current issue rather than the archives -- but i enjoyed this: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v42/n01/francis-gooding/hell-pigs

mark s, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:07 (four years ago) link

lanchester bookmarked but unread, u hate to see it

mark s, Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:12 (four years ago) link

i read em all! i just forgot what they said!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 7 January 2020 21:21 (four years ago) link

Anything by Amia Srinivasan
https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/amia-srinivasan
but especially her tour de force on octopuses
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v39/n17/amia-srinivasan/the-sucker-the-sucker
and her piece on incels and their horribleness
https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v40/n06/amia-srinivasan/does-anyone-have-the-right-to-sex

Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 07:17 (four years ago) link

Patricia Lockwood on John Updike is a treat.

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Wednesday, 8 January 2020 08:54 (four years ago) link

I've read a ton of archive pieces when I used to have a subs so entered a bit of a block with the archive opening even though my interests have widened a bit more in English Lit. I will look at Helen Vendler on Hopkins! (as per the poetry thread)

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 09:16 (four years ago) link

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— Karl Whitney (@karlwhitney) January 8, 2020

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 8 January 2020 15:48 (four years ago) link

Almost anything by Michael Wood is better than almost anything by anyone else.

Except Perry Anderson.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 January 2020 10:39 (four years ago) link

counterpoint: Wood is unbearable, particularly when writing about film

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 9 January 2020 10:58 (four years ago) link

tbf perry writing abt film wd certainly be worse, luckily he hasn't heard of cinema as we proved in an earlier episode

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 11:05 (four years ago) link

Lol Wood being almost their sole film critic is such a nobody fucking cares move from the LRB. Give it to Perry, please, do something anything.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 9 January 2020 11:40 (four years ago) link

i have always kind of assumed it's michael wood the TV historian with tight jeans but it's michael wood the US-based (tho UK-born) literary academic (with a sideline in film crit)

it always reads as what it is: notes-to-self run-off abt movies he's watched in the course of his more focused academic work, to clear his mind's decks (they shd give it to me, my "work" is also mainly notes-to-self run-off, and LRB wd prob pay me better than twitter and ilx do)

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 11:53 (four years ago) link

i *never* clear my mind's decks tho, they are awash with foam and jellyfish

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 11:54 (four years ago) link

You're all wrong.

Except that PA on film would be entertaining. In a way. But PA on film already exists - 'The quality of the Russian cinema in the 2000s attained a nadir unprecedented since the death of Protazanov', etc.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 January 2020 13:58 (four years ago) link

This is interesting on a day when people are making silly comparisons with Meghan Markle

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v10/n16/paul-foot/the-great-times-they-could-have-had

mfktz (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:22 (four years ago) link

xp Wood and Eagleton are the worst IMO, insufferably self-satisfied. PA is that too of, course, but he has the heft to bring it off, somehow.

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:53 (four years ago) link

The 3 best writers in the LRB.

the pinefox, Thursday, 9 January 2020 14:57 (four years ago) link

hah each to their own!

Captain ACAB (Neil S), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:10 (four years ago) link

penman in the lrb -- tho perhaps not the best penman -- is better than all three :) and ditto patricia lockwood (tho i know pinefox doesn't like her and she does a very different kind of writing)

eagleton's self-satisfaction isn't really the problem, it's that they routinely let him comment in passing on matters pop cultural, which he is always then incredibly wrong about. i also find his misdirectons on theorists he disapproves of extremely iffy. he is to his credit an admirably lucid writer tho (it's just that his lucidity is sometimes used for iffy ends)

the problem with wood is as chairman alph says that he's more or less the *only* routine voice they have on film (notes-to-self run-off is a good mode! tho i do it better)

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:15 (four years ago) link

penman sucks ass imo

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link

though admittedly i haven't read a word he's written since his racist prince essay

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:18 (four years ago) link

yes in general he doesn't in fact

(i still haven't read that essay tho)

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:22 (four years ago) link

idk if i can bring myself to value any other ideas or sentences by someone who wrote something that bad

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:23 (four years ago) link

a piece that was wildly celebrated by fans of his writing incidentally. not for me i guess!

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:24 (four years ago) link

well i can't strip 40 years of reading him out of my own critical dna so i'm starting at the wrong end for persuading you

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:30 (four years ago) link

42, jesus

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:31 (four years ago) link

actually brad yr lovely piece on 80s van morrison -- the one that finally gave me a landing point to get VM and like him rather than just be puzzled and alienated by everyone's veneration -- was very penmanish to me (and i'm not saying this just to troll you -- or not entirely anyway: it worked on me the same way his piece on MOR-era scott walker did (but that was in the wire not the lrb)

mark s, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:42 (four years ago) link

oh thank you! i totally take that as a compliment bc it's very obvious penman is talented, even though i also don't like that scott walker piece lol

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:52 (four years ago) link

Re: film in the LRB - David Thomson sometimes gets to write a review of a movie star biog there, and even late, self-regarding and p lazy Thomson is better than Michael Wood imho - DT still has insightful things to say about acting and old school Hollywood, and his recentish piece about 'Vertigo after Weinstein' seemed like a noble attempt at a self-critique for past reviewing sins and sexism.

Actually, I think it would do Penman good to write about films more and music less.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 9 January 2020 15:56 (four years ago) link

some of my sensitivity about penman may be that our approaches to artist catalogues are very similar but he doesn't go far enough and feels he has to maintain some kind of bullshit evenhanded critical distance, which leads to a lot of the bad ideas that prevail through the prince piece even before the racist stuff starts

american bradass (BradNelson), Thursday, 9 January 2020 16:08 (four years ago) link

Bennett on Larkin

fetter, Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

sorry: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v15/n06/alan-bennett/alas!-deceived

fetter, Thursday, 9 January 2020 21:31 (four years ago) link

I don't think I have ever read a better critic, of anything, than Michael Wood.

Wood, like most people, reveres Empson, and would say Empson is (much) better, and that would be a fair suggestion.

the pinefox, Friday, 10 January 2020 10:34 (four years ago) link

Anderson is a model for non-literary English prose.

the pinefox, Friday, 10 January 2020 10:35 (four years ago) link

Terry Eagleton has probably influenced me more than any other writer.

the pinefox, Friday, 10 January 2020 10:36 (four years ago) link

Overall, aside from writers of actual literature, those three have influenced me more than anyone as a writer, insofar as I am a writer.

the pinefox, Friday, 10 January 2020 10:40 (four years ago) link

actually in answer to the archives query, and if empson is being suggested (as he should be), he did write a little for the LRB before his death in 1984: https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/william-empson

i have looked these up and read them all at some point: i don't now remember if they're his best work or otherwise tho

mark s, Friday, 10 January 2020 10:57 (four years ago) link

paul foot's LRB pieces are generally worth digging out also: https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v10/n16/paul-foot/the-great-times-they-could-have-had

(this just popped up on my twitter feed, i s why i thought of it)

mark s, Friday, 10 January 2020 11:11 (four years ago) link

Re: Empson - that's surely too small a selection

I think I satisfied a lot of my English literature turn with a reading of Colin Burrow archive.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/colin-burrow

For Getman Lit J.P.Stern was good.

https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/j.p.-stern

And Michael Wood is good in Latin American lit. I re-read an excellent piece on Juan Carlos Onetti (whose short stories have recently been translated into English)

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 16:12 (four years ago) link

thanks for the Burrow tip. This review of William Boyd's Bond book is a delight

https://www.lrb.co.uk/the-paper/v35/n24/colin-burrow/semi-colons-are-for-the-weak

Number None, Tuesday, 14 January 2020 19:10 (four years ago) link

Any interesting writers on politics? I was thinking of making my way through Patrick Cockburn but idk...Anyone more interesting on the middle East?

https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/patrick-cockburn

Also was thinking of any pieces on the Balkans and how the LRB might have covered it?

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 11:35 (four years ago) link

I really liked Mark Mazower's book on the Balkans and I've found the couple of bits of his I've read in the LRB interesting: https://www.lrb.co.uk/search-results?search=mark+mazower

Life is a meaningless nightmare of suffering...save string (Chinaski), Wednesday, 15 January 2020 12:09 (four years ago) link

Thanks!

Must go through the Anne Carson archive:

https://www.lrb.co.uk/contributors/anne-carson

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 15 January 2020 12:12 (four years ago) link


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