What are Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's Flaws?

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people in that thread point out that it was a local Sinclair affiliate in DC that ran the ad

Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 13 September 2019 12:57 (five months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BG0T_hVMqLs

pomenitul, Friday, 13 September 2019 17:05 (five months ago) link

Ah right, that old socialist practice of forced marriage.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:17 (five months ago) link

You're just blind to the meaning of TRUE socialism!

pomenitul, Friday, 13 September 2019 17:18 (five months ago) link

the ad is very *slow heavy metal music playing*

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 17:32 (five months ago) link

Ah right, that old socialist practice of forced marriage.

read the republic! they'll rusticate your babies!! and your pawpaw!!!

j., Friday, 13 September 2019 18:46 (five months ago) link

pawpaw grows better in non-urban areas tbf

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:32 (five months ago) link

The USA is completely insane.

The Inner Mounting Phlegm (Tom D.), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:38 (five months ago) link

Only the parts with people in them.

A is for (Aimless), Friday, 13 September 2019 20:47 (five months ago) link

Actually the parts with the least people in them seem to be the most insane

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:19 (five months ago) link

sure but once you get down to zero people it's all staggering open spaces or crazy mountains or wetlands

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Friday, 13 September 2019 21:21 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Viral Video About Eating Babies at AOC Town Hall Was Staged by Pro-Trump Group

LaRouche PAC, a far-right group that supports Donald Trump, has taken credit for trolling Democratic Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez during a town hall meeting yesterday. An operative with LaRouche made headlines overnight after standing up at AOC’s town hall in Queens yesterday and saying that humanity should eat babies, among other ridiculous things, to address the climate crisis.

Viral video from the incident shows a woman posing as a supporter of AOC and wearing a shirt that reads, “Save the Planet, Eat the Children.” Many people clearly thought she was mentally disturbed, but LaRouche PAC, a fringe organization that believes climate change is a hoax, was behind the stunt, according to the group’s Twitter account.

...AOC can be seen trying to calm the woman down, repeatedly saying “it’s okay,” and ignoring the comments about babies. While the woman’s reference to “bombing” Russia may seem odd, the group supports both President Donald Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin.

“It was us,” the LaRouche organization tweeted late Thursday, in response to a question about whether the woman was serious. “Malthusianism isn’t new, Jonathan Swift knew that. Sometimes, only satire works.”

President Donald Trump got into the fray last night, tweeting “AOC is a Wack Job!” in response to the viral video. Trump likely had no idea that the woman in the video was one of his supporters.

Better than being a criminal who betrays our country. https://t.co/UnShA6gcQQ

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) October 4, 2019

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:02 (four months ago) link

this will be much more fun when someone deepfakes AOC responding to the fake supporter of babyeating with approval and praise, and then trump responds to THAT, and the deepfake video is the only version 90% of his supporters see

(note to people who still don't think this is a problem: the tech is there to do it now, and people are demonstrably incredibly dumb and gullible with 0.00000000001% media literacy)

It is my great honor to post on this messageboard! (Karl Malone), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:05 (four months ago) link

It's kinda cool how we're reaching peak technical sophistication at the same time we're reaching peak incuriosity/ignorance. And by 'kinda cool' I mean (puts out eyes with knitting needles and just keeps on pushing those needles as far as they'll go)

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 October 2019 17:27 (four months ago) link

"at the same time we're reaching peak incuriosity/ignorance" [citation needed]

like i understand the sentiment but are you aware that people in the past were remarkably incurious and ignorant as well?

Mordy, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:35 (four months ago) link

AOC treating someone with dignity, no matter what their issue, completely blows Trump's (and Trump Jnr's) mind. They can't even comprehend what that must be like, you gotta be a wackjob to act like that, amirite!?

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:35 (four months ago) link

Jeez, the group claiming to be behind that stunt thinks it's satire.

It was us. Malthusianism isn't new, Jonathan Swift knew that. Sometimes, only satire works. https://t.co/vR8oXdx39i

— Lyndon LaRouche PAC (@larouchepac) October 4, 2019

Ned Trifle X, Friday, 4 October 2019 17:58 (four months ago) link

the "modest proposal" reference is the nod to satire but the lack of intelligent application and general pride at one's belligerence without making a reasonable point marks them as the asses they are. just because you read it doesn't mean you understood it.

Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:01 (four months ago) link

"at the same time we're reaching peak incuriosity/ignorance" [citation needed]

like i understand the sentiment but are you aware that people in the past were remarkably incurious and ignorant as well?

― Mordy, Friday, October 4, 2019 12:35 PM (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeesss, daaaaad, I'm awaaaaare, jeeeeez. Let's say the gap between easy access to pretty much all of the information in the world and people's willingness to engage with said information critically is at an all-time high.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:04 (four months ago) link

just goes to show that the causes of ignorance + incuriosity aren't a lack of access to information

Mordy, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:06 (four months ago) link

Third degree, bruh.

Furter-Bursting Tater Squirter (Old Lunch), Friday, 4 October 2019 18:18 (four months ago) link

People wondering when that endorsements coming

anvil, Friday, 4 October 2019 18:35 (four months ago) link

Another month or two at least, prob not before Iowa & NH

flappy bird, Friday, 4 October 2019 21:24 (four months ago) link

Yeah, its fair enough, best for it to come when its has most impact! Seemed like a lock for Bernie but you never know

anvil, Sunday, 6 October 2019 07:09 (four months ago) link

I'd say AOC and Bernie share more in common than AOC and Warren, but I respect AOC's independence and I know she will do whatever she thinks best, regardless.

A is for (Aimless), Sunday, 6 October 2019 19:24 (four months ago) link

like i understand the sentiment but are you aware that people in the past were remarkably incurious and ignorant as well?

― Mordy, Friday, October 4, 2019 1:35 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think it’s probably fair to say that the extreme degree of partisanship and niche “news” services contributes to this

k3vin k., Monday, 7 October 2019 00:53 (four months ago) link

we're reaching peak technical sophistication at the same time we're reaching peak incuriosity/ignorance.

I'm not sure this is true. Incuriosity/ignorance implies a kind of passivity, which I don't think is really what we're experiencing. I think gullibility might the more accurate term.

But I'm not sure even gullibility covers it, because if a mistakenly believed fact is disproved, even to the satisfaction of the person holding a particular opinion, it rarely changes the underlying fundamental belief. We're under the illusion that facts matter but they don't, at least not in and of themselves. Facts on any one particular story or issue are just raindrops, even if a thousand of them turn out not to be raindrops - what difference does it make? Even if it turns out not be raining at all, well its raining somewhere, and it will be raining here again sometime, so in a way its raining anyway, regardless of if there is any rain

anvil, Monday, 7 October 2019 07:21 (four months ago) link

People wondering when that endorsements coming

― anvil, Friday, 4 October 201

People didn't have to wonder for long!

anvil, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 05:12 (four months ago) link

Only 1818 years

president of deluded fruitcakes anonymous (silby), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 05:53 (four months ago) link

you, quite literally, love to see it

ilhan omar and rashida tlaib officially on team bernie too

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 05:56 (four months ago) link

this is the opposite of surprising but still, yes, you love to see it

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 October 2019 06:12 (four months ago) link

good. thought she might melt

be goose, do crimes (||||||||), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 07:18 (four months ago) link

maybe Warren's ludicrous tweet about the history of benevolent capitalist wages moved the needle here

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:05 (four months ago) link

Nah, AOC is a fair bit smarter than to base such decisions on tweets.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:19 (four months ago) link

not what I said, but u do u fredzo

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:23 (four months ago) link

https://t.co/Ix1Opmh8Kf pic.twitter.com/emQjKO7LNI

— Garbage 🦍 (@GarbageApe) October 16, 2019

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:43 (four months ago) link

Here is @IlhanMN's official endorsement letter of Bernie. I'm crying. pic.twitter.com/5frgKhWYWE

— Eric Blanc (@_ericblanc) October 16, 2019

😂😂😂

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:45 (four months ago) link

it's good, and i like it

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:46 (four months ago) link

My good friend's pastor is trying to run against AOC and she was asking me what the deal is with so many people disliking her. I was like, have you got a minute?

Yerac, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:46 (four months ago) link

maybe Warren's ludicrous tweet about the history of benevolent capitalist wages moved the needle here

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), 16. oktober 2019 13:05 (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Nah, AOC is a fair bit smarter than to base such decisions on tweets.

― Frederik B, 16. oktober 2019 13:19 (twenty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

not what I said, but u do u fredzo

― a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), 16. oktober 2019 13:23 (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Help a poor foreigner with a shaky grasp of the English language out here. How the fuck is that not what you said?

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:47 (four months ago) link

Whatever you say Morbius said, that's not what he meant. Whatever he said yesterday is no longer applicable if there's a cheap, lazy, cynical point to be scored today. How is this difficult to understand?

shared unit of analysis (unperson), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:53 (four months ago) link

Ur mom is cheap, lazy & cynical.

Una Palooka Dronka (hardcore dilettante), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 11:58 (four months ago) link

im saying it could've been "the last straw" or somesuch

unperson, cancel yr ass

a Mets fan who gave up on everything in the mid '80s (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:09 (four months ago) link

Okay, I still don't get the difference, but let me rephrase what I said.

"Nah, AOC is a fair bit smarter than to let a tweet be 'the last straw' or somesuch."

Look how easy it is if we help each other :)

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:16 (four months ago) link

So is anyone legitimately melting down over these endorsements or is this simply some weird horseshoe theory of "liberal tears" at work within an extremely narrow sliver of left social media?

Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:26 (four months ago) link

what the fuck

Reacting to the news that three members of the Squad—Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Tlaib, and Ilhan Omar—were set the endorse Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) for president, CNN anchor John King wondered aloud after Tuesday night’s Democratic primary debate whether the move would help the progressive senator in the race or be seen as “too urban.”

“It’s an extension of what we see tonight,” King said of the young progressive congresswomen of color. “A debate of who will lead the party and where the party is going to go. Which part of the party will lead the party into the 2020 election? They are more of the younger, fresher face. More aggressive and liberal. Less compromising.”

Noting that the endorsements would “certainly help” Sanders as he looks for a lane to victory in the Democratic primary, King added that they may have some other Democrats asking: “Is this too far left? Is this too uncompromising? Is it too urban? Is it too internet? Does the Democratic Party need to find a broader audience?”

expedited frictionless convergences (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:30 (four months ago) link

I've seen some pretty out-there screencaps but I assume like usual it's a pretty narrow sliver. I am expecting to see a fair number of pundits suddenly asking if endorsements "matter anymore" etc tho xp

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:31 (four months ago) link

e.g.

Can’t wait to see how this registers, if at all. We’ve evolved past endorsements. No one cares. Will AOC be the exception? https://t.co/ae3JrCxYkp

— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) October 16, 2019

Simon H., Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:32 (four months ago) link

I mean, John King is definitely right that it will frighten off some racists. But fuck that.

Frederik B, Wednesday, 16 October 2019 12:33 (four months ago) link


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