No Other - Gene Clark

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I'm mostly curious about the 80-page book tbh but looks like that's only available with the $140 deluxe box, dunno if I'm $140 worth of curious for all those alt versions

“Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link

those wah-wuh-wuh-wah-wuh-wuh-danddangdangdangdangdangdangdang guitars

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 September 2019 18:40 (four years ago) link

5.1 is a draw for me, but ... $140?!? Gah.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 14 September 2019 05:54 (four years ago) link

idk extras on this don't look particularly appealing tbh

― Οὖτις, Thursday, 12 September 2019 16:27 (two days ago) link

FYI this was one of the projects whos masters were apparently burnt up on the UMG backlot

ILX’s bad boy (D-40), Saturday, 14 September 2019 07:43 (four years ago) link

Is it? Universal owns most of the prior Clark (and Dillard & Clark) albums. This one was with Warner Music, though perhaps it's changed hands? The version on Spotify is credited to 'No Other Records ©1974'.

a bevy of supermodels, musicians and Lena Dunham (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 14 September 2019 11:32 (four years ago) link

It would seem to be challenging to mix a record for surround sound with no multitracks.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 14 September 2019 12:25 (four years ago) link

can’t stop listening to this

prorogue mahone (||||||||), Sunday, 15 September 2019 21:31 (four years ago) link

FYI this was one of the projects whos masters were apparently burnt up on the UMG backlot

Asked about this on Quadraphonic Quad and the thinking there was only the A&M stuff he recorded would have been at UMG.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 16 September 2019 02:13 (four years ago) link

We all need a fix
At a time like this

buzza, Monday, 16 September 2019 02:25 (four years ago) link

Wonder if the packaging will get the full-on Vaughan Oliver treatment.

henry s, Monday, 16 September 2019 15:12 (four years ago) link

one month passes...

Did anybody pick up the deluxe box set?

Soundslike, Saturday, 9 November 2019 22:35 (four years ago) link

Yes. I haven’t opened it yet but two metallic foil printed flexis if the alternate versions came in the package as well.

dan selzer, Saturday, 9 November 2019 23:40 (four years ago) link

Amazon just notified me that my order is being delayed, with no shipment date in site. What's up with that?

henry s, Sunday, 10 November 2019 05:06 (four years ago) link

I ended up having to order from Amazon Canada--sold out on the 4AD website and was $300 US on Amazon US! Shipped, but not due to arrive for a couple weeks...

Soundslike, Sunday, 10 November 2019 19:52 (four years ago) link

I am holding out for a standalone Blu-Ray release. One of the mix engineers on QQ said he hopes it happens as well.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 10 November 2019 22:15 (four years ago) link

On the title track when that crystal meth bass first comes in and slides down the neck, it’s pure molasses

June Pointer’s Valentine’s Day Secret Admirer Note Author (calstars), Sunday, 10 November 2019 22:38 (four years ago) link

the new remaster of this is excellent, record's never sounded better

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 11 November 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

(now pls go back and do this to white light which has a godawful remaster)

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 11 November 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link

the drumming on this album especially on the title track deserves its own thread

american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:02 (four years ago) link

the remaster does sound realllllly good. what a great, weird record.

tylerw, Monday, 11 November 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link

"Strength of Strings" was my first exposure to Clark, on a mixtape that also had my first tastes of Can, Autechre, Julian Cope, Dusty Springfield, Laika, Pentangle, A.R. Kane and Nick Drake, plus great Diana Ross and T. Rex deep cuts. So I really associate that song and later that album with having my mind blown repeatedly.

Trussrippers WILL be persecuted! (WmC), Monday, 11 November 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link

I first learned of him thru the (inferior) This Mortal Coil cover. those records were my gateway to a ton of great stuff.

Simon H., Monday, 11 November 2019 17:49 (four years ago) link

The remaster makes a huge difference, way more than I thought.

kornrulez6969, Monday, 11 November 2019 21:08 (four years ago) link

two weeks pass...

Fuck me this album. I'd never heard of it until I bought it last week. Everything told me classic. And I can't get over how great it is. It's like an acid trip of crescendo after crescendo.

Duke, Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:38 (four years ago) link

I bought the 2-CD version. I'm so smitten I'm considering getting the deluxe box, but I'll probably sober up in a week.

Duke, Sunday, 1 December 2019 21:39 (four years ago) link

what an album

omar little, Monday, 2 December 2019 21:50 (four years ago) link

This is so, so great. I'd never heard any of it until a few weeks ago when I picked up the 2xCD reissue, this is fantastic!

soaring skrrrtpeggios (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 December 2019 22:56 (four years ago) link

I just got the deluxe box, being such a fan I had to have all the sessions plus the book and dvd. The book is great but the film is a bit slight. Not a great deal of actual Gene footage, just some radio interview quotes. Apparently Gene went after Geffen after the latter refused to promote the album, and had to be physically restrained. Pretty much did his career in, sadly enough. (For some reason the altercation is glossed over in the doc.) The two records Gene made with Doug Dillard are the only ones that really come close to this in his solo repertoire, for me at least.

henry s, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:06 (four years ago) link

I meant to say the Dillard & Clark album plus the one with the Gosdin Brothers. Though White Light is up there too.

henry s, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:08 (four years ago) link

Great record, not sure how well known it was before it got reissued on cd about 20 years ago. But has been in print in some form since then, thought even quite widely distributed. Gave it to my brother's girlfriend about 3 years ago in the old cd version.

Think I might just need to get the 2cd version of this release though.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 10 December 2019 23:10 (four years ago) link

Actually looks like Edsel had a vinyl version out in the mid 80s. THink it may have been reviewed in Strange tHings Are Happening if i remember right.
& cd version was 17 years ago. Collectors Choice put it out on a pretty quiet sounding cd and were followed shortly after by a louder mastered one with some bonus tracks on another label

Stevolende, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:18 (four years ago) link

4 Men With Beards had a vinyl release out -- i'm sure it was atrocious.

omar little, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 00:20 (four years ago) link

I've had a German label CD of this since the early-90's. It isn't bad but the new remastered thing sounds so much better.

henry s, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 02:46 (four years ago) link

As someone pointed out upthread the cover version by This Mortal Coil first (re?)alerted people to the existence of this album (in the UK, at least), and that was 1986. The Edsel reissue was 1989. I got it on vinyl - I think it was an original, I can't check because my vinyl's all in storage - but I can't remember what year that was.

I've Got A Ron Wood Solo Album To Listen To (Tom D.), Wednesday, 11 December 2019 07:18 (four years ago) link

yeah the TMC cover seems pivotal in this album's journey to cult-classic status. I came across this record maybe a dozen years or so ago and resulted in a deep country-rock/Gene Clark dive for me, probably thx to ilx.

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 16:34 (four years ago) link

And those indie fans who weren't necessarily aware of TMC might have been turned onto No Other several years later vis a vis David Bennun's review in the Unknown Pleasures paperback (mentioned upthread) that came with a copy of Melody Maker in 1995 (a collection of "lost classics" reviews by the MM writers at the time), and/or the "Gene Clark" song that Teenage Fanclub had on their Thirteen album, a couple years prior in '93.

henry s, Wednesday, 11 December 2019 17:07 (four years ago) link

five months pass...

Lol what a funny old hippie coot. Isengard called......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hABlMAmIVA0

buzza, Sunday, 7 June 2020 08:21 (three years ago) link

three months pass...

best album of all time

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 26 September 2020 01:23 (three years ago) link

B-b-but is it as good as Kind of Blue?

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 September 2020 01:24 (three years ago) link

yes

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 26 September 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

Awesome.

ABBA O RLY? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 26 September 2020 01:28 (three years ago) link

i never knew this existed. indie all-star band with members of beach house, grizzly bear, the dude from fleet foxes and the dude from walkmen briefly formed a gene clark cover band and played the album in full. they did a pretty good job!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaF3znVBWe8

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 26 September 2020 01:36 (three years ago) link

this is indeed the best album of all time

mellon collie and the infinite bradness (BradNelson), Saturday, 26 September 2020 03:30 (three years ago) link

I've been listening to it a lot recently. Feel like Teenage Fanclub's whole catalog flows out of the way he sings "reality" on "The True One."

swing out sister: live in new donk city (geoffreyess), Saturday, 26 September 2020 04:10 (three years ago) link

and i firmly believe vangelis ripped the chariots of fire theme from one piano lick in “lady of the north”

i got a homogenic björk wine farmer permabanned (voodoo chili), Saturday, 26 September 2020 12:13 (three years ago) link

"Lady of the North" has one of the best song/album endings I can think of. Perfection.

henry s, Saturday, 26 September 2020 13:17 (three years ago) link

one month passes...

I adore this record but stand by my assertion (that I’d completely forgotten I’d made) in the review I did for Stylus in 2003 that it doesn’t really include his best compositions.

Clark’s career is a complete fucking travesty. I just posted on another thread about how jazz pianist Keith Jarrett’s stroke was sad but that he’d recorded and released every whim for a single label over 50 years. Meanwhile, Gene Clark has, like, two proper records, one of which was released on an “artist’s label,” forced to be cut down to a single album and not promoted.

I’d have gone after Geffen too.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 1 November 2020 13:58 (three years ago) link

Echoes/W Gosdin Bros is pretty much a proper album, No Other and White Light are as well. Two Sides to Every Story and I'd argue the Dillard and Clark albums should also count.

dan selzer, Sunday, 1 November 2020 17:06 (three years ago) link

"Roadmaster" is not a proper album but is great.

Young Boys of Bernie (Tom D.), Sunday, 1 November 2020 17:15 (three years ago) link

Wikipedia says the rumour about No Other originally being a double album has been debunked.

My takeaway from the John Einarson biography of Clark was that, when he had to struggle and persevere, he would discipline himself and take care of both his health and his music. It was when he had success that both spiralled out of control. The book basically says that the sudden influx of royalties from Tom Petty's cover of I'll Feel a Whole Lot Better killed him.

Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 1 November 2020 20:46 (three years ago) link


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