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not that it matters what i think or what i like -- It has a life of its own!

weird woman in a bar (La Lechera), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:41 (nine months ago) link

lol they were running the preview for this before MIDSOMMAR and at first I didn't recognize it and was all "huh this quiet scene with the creepy old lady in her house actually seems p cool" but then they showed the clown and I was like "oh hell no"

Οὖτις, Tuesday, 10 September 2019 21:47 (nine months ago) link

You were all about the naked crazy old lady?

When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 10 September 2019 22:01 (nine months ago) link

wins is otm that this was really bad, yet somehow i enjoyed it. i think it was just the overall vibe of "adults who were childhood friends get back together and rekindle the flame of first love," i'll take a shot of that no matter how poor the quality.

I’d say I wanted this exact vibe, but curdled and made horrific- maybe an unrealistic thing to want from a blockbuster but it’s what the original blockbuster novel does. Here we open with nasty scenes of queerbashing and wifebeating, then it’s determinedly feelgood for the rest of its 3 hours - basically the opposite of the tonal shift that people don’t like in the new Tarantino. This film is so pathologically anxious for its viewers not to feel any adult emotions that it rewrites the ending to remove every last trace of melancholy or ambiguity: no more amnesia, reassurance that stan’s suicide was in fact a heroic sacrifice (did the “hill house is nice actually” guy do punch-up work on this?)

Nothing is allowed to matter, even when kids and main characters start dying it’s rushed through to get to the next dumb fetch quest or ham-handed exposition scene or sub-dream warriors Friendship is Magic garbage. The constant wisecracks undercutting any sense of menace... this is what I imagine watching an avengers movie is like

YouGov to see it (wins), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 07:52 (nine months ago) link

direct me now to the many good epilogues in movies

they are all in Wild Things (1998)

now let's play big lunch take little lunch (sic), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 09:35 (nine months ago) link

You were all about the naked crazy old lady?

tbh... yes

Οὖτις, Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:10 (nine months ago) link

actually it's gerontophilia

I don't get wet because I am tall and thin and I am afraid of people (Eliza D.), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:55 (nine months ago) link


☮ (peace, man), Wednesday, 11 September 2019 15:55 (nine months ago) link

somehow i enjoyed it. i think it was just the overall vibe of "adults who were childhood friends get back together and rekindle the flame of first love," i'll take a shot of that no matter how poor the quality.

This is basically where I'm at wrt "Chapter 2" also. What makes IT one of the only King books that still kinda has its hooks in me is the both-sides-now child-adult mirroring, with both halves regretting something they don't have yet/anymore. In any case, this one ditches almost all the Stranger Things shit that ruined the first part, so advantage belongs with this one.

Also, yes, scary fast hot naked booby granny gross tango was a highlight.

Also, Mike spiking Bill's water with root -- "What did you do to me?!"

Also, everything everyone negative to say about bullying Pennywise until he turns into Rubber Johnny and sheds copious tears of a murderous clown clearly has never read a single page from the legendarily and lovably embarrassing bibliography of one Stephen King.

Also, production values are entirely too high tbh.

Also, much hotter "not fat anymore" Ben than the ABC mini, even if his chemistry with the rest of the cast is at the level of a hologram.

Also, Xavier Dolan using his last dying breaths to make a joke about his gay basher's mullet looking like a Meg Ryan wig is chef's kiss, and only one of two anti-mullet punchlines made by someone badly wounded.

Also, I don't care what anyone else has to say on this, the curious decision to turn Richie urp-prone Trashmouth into a closeted homo carrying a torch for the somehow straight mama's boy Eddie inhaler-sucking Kaspbrak, and unveiling that plot point vis-a-vis a needle-drop appearance by Pennywise goading Richie into a game of Truth or Dare, and watching this all play out in a movie theater while sitting next to a straight childhood friend with whom I also experienced my first erections in the presence of another dude from sleepover games of "reluctant" Truth or Dare (emphasis on Dare), was let's just say a moment.

But yes, the endings sucked.

Pauline Male (Eric H.), Thursday, 12 September 2019 05:17 (nine months ago) link

wins relentlessly otm on this thread esp here:

Nothing is allowed to matter

even torture porn horror schlock allows characters to present themselves as traumatized by the shit they're going through: they get jumpy, they become hyper-vigilant, they become constantly reactive to the possibility of further insult. tobe hooper was great at this -- once a person sees some truly soul-altering shit, he/she doesn't just start cracking wise five minutes later with the threat still present. nothing against good horror wisecracks but once you're down the well in this movie, you are fucked up, and you're going to be fucked up for a long time. nothing here seems to touch anybody, unless it kills them.

but it's also a good bad movie as eliza d. says: a fun watch with a bunch of dumb shit, like all the cheap 80s horror movies I love. And Skarsgard is fucking glorious, every minute he spends onscreen is a gift.

she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 12 September 2019 07:09 (nine months ago) link

I am otm but probably too relentlessly sometimes - as a person who will rewatch thinner I am glad some people are enjoying this bad movie 🙂 I can see myself maybe softening on it over time as long as I never have to watch it again

Re the “curious decision” to make Richie the gay one (was trying not to spoil this earlier as it’s a surprising choice that actually works), I strongly suspect either that this was made after casting Hader or that the filmmakers were just big Richie fans - that actor/character is given the only interesting stuff to do p much. One of the more egregious examples of “nothing can matter” is the losers being surprised to see Richie grieve their friend who died horribly minutes before. It’s a good moment for him but shouldn’t those guys give a shit as well?

The mook they got to play hunky Ben = total void

YouGov to see it (wins), Thursday, 12 September 2019 09:57 (nine months ago) link

eight months pass...

I liked the first "chapter" for the engaging performances from the child actors and because it hit my 80s nostalgia sweet spot. Chapter 2 is three hours of expensive-looking CGI.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:33 (one month ago) link


I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:43 (one month ago) link

Yep. Tried watching the second one twice, fell asleep both times.

Roz, Friday, 5 June 2020 16:46 (one month ago) link

I stand by most of what I wrote (while buzzed) above but have no desire to ever watch it again, to be clear.

Dirty Epic H. (Eric H.), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:47 (one month ago) link

Ok, I did laugh at the King and Bogdanovich cameos.

A White, White Gay (cryptosicko), Friday, 5 June 2020 16:59 (one month ago) link

Chapter 2 was definitely a chore

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 6 June 2020 03:04 (one month ago) link

it was an assload of fuck

I am a free. I am not man. A number. (Neanderthal), Saturday, 6 June 2020 03:08 (one month ago) link

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