HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

the pearce family are awful

Oh wow Shiv fucked it. I think the one to watch now is probably Roman? In that he's actually doing the stuff that Shiv was too impatient to bother with, and if there's anyone to have as any ally/mentor it's probably Geri (leaving aside the deeply weird nature of that alliance).

Love how Kendall literally shat the bed and was the one who actually secured the crucial vote in the process.

but ultimately did shiv fuck it? was logan really going to name her as his successor? it feels like he has no intention to ever name anyone and is just toying with all of them like he has done through their whole lives. they're all going to get their turn as "front runner" (except connor probably) but he's never going to hand it over. that felt like the root of him being so obstinate in the pierce negotiations rather than him getting revenge on shiv.

love how logan always calls roman 'romulus,' maybe he is planning to make him king after all

appointing an heir is the one thing Logan has absolutely no certainty about

Shiv's the most competent but ideologically off. bringing her in is a test to see if she'd run things in a way he could reconcile with his ideas

Kendall's thirsty and can be ruthless but previously wanted it without his dad's blessing, and he's just too fucked up at this point. could see him being cultivated as a choice now that he's in-house, but he's too cowed to be really respected

Roman's the wild card. could be good, has no focus or seriousness and has all the mental baggage of growing up moneyed but, luckily, not purely hungry for power

I dunno I got the sense Logan was sincere about Shiv at first and then promptly regretted it, it was less a matter of ideology and more down to her impatience, reluctance to do the management training course and general bad judgement.

He's going to end up leaving everything to Greg.

otm

He's going to end up leaving everything to Greg.

*Gregory

Greg the Egg.

gregory the eggory*

Intrigued by what was going on with Marcia in that last episode though.

xpost YES.

Episode 5 is a masterpiece.

My money's on Greg(ory) as well. I'd like a Greg only bottle episode.

the entire cringe-worthy panel discussion with the siblings tripping over each other was exactly what the family and we, the viewers, deserved

we hear for you!

no no no
we HERE for you
loved the various people around greg(ory) cracking up at that

you doing the old cocaine?

the relationship between mole woman and rock star has become one of the many (highlights) of this show
"i have thoughts, but go on"

https://www.vulture.com/2019/09/succession-season-2-cherry-jones-interview.html

Because it’s Succession, when I read the script I thought, “There is no one in this episode who is noble.”

Logan practically chasing down the car was the most pathetic moment showing that he's a big old weak narcissist under all that projected self-confidence and braggadocio

Season 1 felt way too caricatured for me, with characters not really going beyond their tics — Roman will approach a buffet, take a bite of something and put the rest back, and so on; Greg will raise the last word of every sentence. Costumes were fantastic, though.

But now season 2 (just watched it all up to now this weekend), and it’s a much better show. The characters are getting shaken out of their easy mannerisms, and just in general it feels a little more credible. And putting the Roys against the old-school Ivy League elite is really satisfying.

Ugh, and just after writing that, this episode goes back to Season 1 shallowness, taking away Holly Hunter character’s nuances and sophistication and the whole thing has a kind of BFA-LaBute-protege approach to sex and unoriginal swearing.

counterpoint: i really enjoy seeing Holly Hunter on television doing anything

Hard to see her have to deliver lines like “Kendall now has a bigger diaper to shit in” after a few episodes that work hard to credibly establish her tight-lipped New England manner...

I get the feeling that the character is purposefully chameleon-like and it was the Pierces who were tight-lipped New Englanders

and that she's playing for whoever is paying the bill? that was my takeaway as well. Unless the Pierce's are playing the tune and this is a long con...

upon reflection though I would agree this was not a strongly written episode.

ROY
CUNT

good to see 'cunt as a term of endearment' is now part of scotland's international brand

last two have been a bit bumpy and not as finely wrought tbh; hoping the ship rights itself tonight.

lol we’re really into “uhh pedo guy was a fun insult in south africa when I was a kid” territory here with uncle mo

and this situation with roman is somehow going... worse!

“Rights the ship”??? This is clearly another classic season plz

yes - it bangs

You can’t make a Tomelette without breaking a few Gregs.

fantastic episode last night. though odd that none of the roy children fucked anything up for once.

i guess tom and greg made up for that.

the hardest i've ever laughed at this show is when tom tried to say he'd never met greg and that cut to shiv losing her mind.

tom is fuuuuuuuuuuuuucked

they said they need a blood sacrifice, but really it's gonna be more like a sacrifice-by-marriage

good thing he signed that pre-nup, right

otm about the tom denying knowing greg scene, I was cackling

you can't make a tomlette without breaking some gregs

do you think Tom started out like Greg and was crafted into an oblivious but malignant exec by some similar svengali figure?

Tom has been working towards this his entire adult life and he's fucked.

I like how Team Roman being held hostage at gunpoint was almost the light relief from the general sense of clammy dread.

Actually it might be Kendall who's fucked and Logan has enough leverage to make him take the fall.

Have we done this yet?

👀 King @PUSHA_T pic.twitter.com/MRubMz0IJ5

— Nicholas Britell (@NicholasBritell) October 7, 2019

*snore*

not trying to start a feud or anything but I’m a little annoyed @HBO & Nicholas Britell asked Pusha T to write lyrics to the Succession theme, since they asked me to first and turned my version down https://t.co/MUywcSIYzq pic.twitter.com/q8OLy52krZ

— demi adejuyigbe (@electrolemon) October 9, 2019

demi for president

omg. i'm an episode behind; glad to hear there seems to be a general consensus the last one was a winner.

Finally finished this. Objectively well written and acted, subjectively mostly good. Kind of like a cross between "Godfather Part II" and "Entourage."