what’s the process if he resigns?
― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
caretaker PM JC agrees an extension and then we go to the country with BJ able to play the hard man of brexit while the remain part of his coalition leaks to the LDs?
― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:41 (four years ago) link
Enough Tory MPs have to agree to JC as caretaker? In which case forget it.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:43 (four years ago) link
the commons has 14 days to avoid a GE by placing its confidence in another govt but quite how candidates are put forward is unclear to me and the govt thinks they can obfuscate it. all the rules date from the cameron govt and have never been applied before
― ogmor, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:45 (four years ago) link
so bercow is off on oct 31 and the new speaker will be elected while the tories don't have a parliamentary majority
― Br. Des Shadows (NickB), Monday, 9 September 2019 14:46 (four years ago) link
Speaking of The Caretaker, I choose to believe that Everywhere at the End of Time, which ostensibly charts an Alzheimer sufferer's descent into irreversible oblivion, is in fact an aural allegory of Brexit Britain.
― pomenitul, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:47 (four years ago) link
Early candidates for Speaker include @HarrietHarman @RhonddaBryant @LindsayHoyle_MP— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) September 9, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:49 (four years ago) link
May In
― nashwan, Monday, 9 September 2019 14:50 (four years ago) link
Bercow's last act is to ensure his successor is not chosen by a possible new Conservative government, but by the current opposition-controlled House.— Nigel Fletcher (@nigelfletcher) September 9, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:02 (four years ago) link
Lindsay Hoyle is the fav, seems like a total arse-hoyle.
― calzino, Monday, 9 September 2019 15:09 (four years ago) link
What’s wrong with him?
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:20 (four years ago) link
He dead. Meanwhile:
From now until 7.15pm: MPs debate the Grieve SO24 motion saying the government should publish its Operation Yellowhammer documents and correspondent about proroguing parliament. At 7.15pm there will be a vote taking about 15 minutes.
7.30pm: MPs will debate Jeremy Corbyn’s motion for 90 minutes. It may go through at the end without a division.
Around 9pm: MPs will debate a motion under the Northern Ireland (Executive Formation) Act and Lords amendments to the parliamentary buildings (restoration and renewal) bill. In theory up to two and a half hours has been set aside for these matters, but they are likely to wrap up much sooner - perhaps in about an hour.
Around 10pm?: MPs begin the 90-minute debate on Boris Johnson’s motion calling for an early election. When it finishes there will be a vote, that will take about 15 minutes. After that parliament will prorogue.
Good luck sticking to that...
― nashwan, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
Reminder of what he's doing here. Grieve is going to use a 'humble address' to get communication about prorogation, including WhatsApp, text messages etc, from key people around the PM, including special advisor Dominic Cummings & director of legislative affairs Nikki da Costa.— Ian Dunt (@IanDunt) September 9, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:26 (four years ago) link
Tweet of the day, even better than the Laura K one:
Best of luck to a Conservative administration, for example, in appealing to the rule of law when trying to quell a trade union which decides to go on strike illegally.— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) September 9, 2019
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
lewis... the conservative party can do whatever the fuck it likes because it will never be pulled up on its hypocrisy and in fact will receive active cover from a large percentage of our esteemed press...
― prorogue mahone (||||||||), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:35 (four years ago) link
Easy to miss lovely stuff like this among the big-ticket items
with the appointment of Therese Coffey as the new Work and Pensions Secretary, now a majority of members of the cabinet voted against same-sex marriage. This is the most homophobic government since the early 1990s. pic.twitter.com/heJ7K7GEy1— Calum Sherwood (@CalumSSherwood) September 9, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:42 (four years ago) link
xp otm and will go full incitement at a second’s notice
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:43 (four years ago) link
tweet of the minute
Dominic Grieve tells Parliament he has received information from inside Government, the implication of which, is that Boris Johnson misled the Queen about his reasons for requesting the prorogation of Parliament 🔥🔥🔥— Ben Bradshaw (@BenPBradshaw) September 9, 2019
― nashwan, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:47 (four years ago) link
There is something that really bothers me about Hoyle it might be that horrid accent. Probably better him than Harman I suppose, but when you look at the bookies shortlist for next speaker of the house a pattern emerges; they are all fucking different shades of horrible!
― calzino, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
LOCK HIM UP xp
― don’t bore us, get to the aeon of horus (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:49 (four years ago) link
Grieve putting the boot in here, u luv 2 c it
― Captain ACAB (Neil S), Monday, 9 September 2019 16:50 (four years ago) link
Like is the queen going to rip her mask off and go V on Boris? Cos otherwise who gives a fuckETA: extremely angry as I have just lost signal as I hit post and I’ve probably missed it actually happening 🦎
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:51 (four years ago) link
xxp Bercow was in the Monday Club and there’s nothing wrong with Hoyle’s (Lancs?) accent, although that may be my bias towards northern accents speaking
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:52 (four years ago) link
In the Commons Chris Leslie, the Independent Group for Change MP, intervenes on Dominic Grieve to quote from a Mail Online story quoting a No 10 source saying that even if the motion is passed Downing Street will not comply.He says that is the problem. NNo 10 is quoted saying things like this that ignore all conventional rules. He says it is impossible to know where these comments come from.
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:53 (four years ago) link
Rees-Mogg in trouble if Grieve's motion mean he has to hand over all his received telegrams as yet uneaten.
― nashwan, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:56 (four years ago) link
Fabricant a 100\1 shot for next speaker! Yep Bercow the saviour of parliamentary democracy was a total pro apartheid right wing arsehole as well.
― calzino, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:57 (four years ago) link
He’s at his HoC window now solemnly flinging his pigeons into the air
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:58 (four years ago) link
Being told Fabricant's wig has announced it will not be standing at the next GE.
― nashwan, Monday, 9 September 2019 16:59 (four years ago) link
Like is the queen going to rip her mask off and go V on Boris? Cos otherwise who gives a fuck
Old people who venerate the queen, who will be deeply troubled at the thought that Boris would lie to Her Majesty.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:05 (four years ago) link
I thought they generally rotated speakers - if you excuse the phrase - the Speaker before Bercow, Michael 'Ordeur Ordeur' Martin was Labour, Bercow was a Tory (lol), next one should not be another Tory (lolx2).
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:08 (four years ago) link
(xp) No-one really cares about the Queen tbh.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:09 (four years ago) link
i think the alternation is a recent practice rather than a rule or even a convention
― mark s, Monday, 9 September 2019 17:14 (four years ago) link
but doesn't the queen care if the pm lies to her or not?
― je est un autre, l'enfer c'est les autres (alex in mainhattan), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
xp otm, but there’s probably the numbers for a moderate Lab speaker
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 17:17 (four years ago) link
(xp) She does what she's told.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
just looking at next speaker betting, Hoyle 4/6 fav but there has been some money on tory Eleanor Laing 12/1 to 5/1 .
― calzino, Monday, 9 September 2019 17:51 (four years ago) link
My God, another Tory from Paisley!
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 17:59 (four years ago) link
Laing is a fan of Rangers F.C., and the vice-chairman of the Westminster Parliamentary Rangers Supporters' Club.[10]
>:(
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:00 (four years ago) link
Sometimes HD television is very unnecessary. pic.twitter.com/UQFlulLnSJ— Nooruddean (@BeardedGenius) September 9, 2019
― mark s, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:07 (four years ago) link
Are we really supposed to believe that the Queen didn't know why Johnson wanted to suspend Parliament?
― Matt DC, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:09 (four years ago) link
Don't think so, especially after she was put in the picture by Swinson and Soubry at Nando's
― anvil, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:18 (four years ago) link
I think you're holding the wrong end of the stick. Politically, it's more about Boris lying than the queen believing.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:20 (four years ago) link
Have had this on in background but darkly amused at Gove invoking article 8 of the ECHR to defend civil servants and spads. Was he so concerned about the chilling effects of surveillance before? Don’t seem to recall that.
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:28 (four years ago) link
Since we’re speaking of the queen, this motion is “an humble address” which petitions her (government) to do something, in this case release stuff
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:30 (four years ago) link
I see Barry G behind Corbyn just as if to annoy whoever said they were glad to see less of him earlier.
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:34 (four years ago) link
PM is not there. Opposition MPs shouting “where is he?”
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:35 (four years ago) link
I’m clearly the only one watching tonight lol so
Sickening to see MPs who have routinely trashed the Human Right Act and promoted intrusive surveillance legislation scurrying to hide behind ECHR and Article 8 in respect of electronic communications— David Allen Green (@davidallengreen) September 9, 2019
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:36 (four years ago) link
That was me, I don't mind looking at him or even listening to him as long as he's talking about anything but Labour Party policy.
― Boulez, vous couchez avec moi? (Tom D.), Monday, 9 September 2019 18:37 (four years ago) link
Corbyn refers to the government’s “numerous WhatsApp groups”. We live in a society...
― gyac, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:41 (four years ago) link
they are all run by MR seamas milne iirc
― mark s, Monday, 9 September 2019 18:43 (four years ago) link