PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

Can the writers who post here come up with something? So much for experts lol

Jesus fuck

That’s politics! And Amber’s resignation is massive news! https://t.co/G2uK2flsB7

— Angela Smith MP (@angelasmithmp) September 7, 2019

I’m trying! Am also able to forward anything we come up with to Labour speech writers, so let’s get stuck in.

probably the only way to once and for all get rid of farage, johnson and their ilk is to do the hard brexit. after they will be finished as they have nothing else in their political program. it could be worth it...

i’m sure that’d be some comfort to the families of the thousands of sick and vulnerable people in the uk that a hard Brexit would kill

http://britainelects.com/2019/09/07/poll-tories-will-struggle-in-an-election-if-brexit-delayed/

These figures suggest an electoral backlash may be in store for Boris Johnson, in what seemingly is becoming the likely scenario of Britain’s exit from the EU being delayed beyond the 31st of October and an election to be held shortly after. Voters would drift from the Tories to the Brexit Party, gifting Labour a chance at becoming the largest party with support from the Liberal Democrats.

perhaps a bit of woolgathering involved here but i like the sound of this scenario

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 31% (-4)
LAB: 28% (+4)
LDEM: 17% (-1)
BREX: 13% (-1)

via @DeltapollUK, 05 - 07 Sep

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 8, 2019

latest deltapoll bringing sunday morning good vibes

so what happens tomorrow if boris instructs brenda to deny royal assent to the no-no-deal bill? is that even an option?

Beginning to think the election-delaying "let Boris stew in his own juice" tactic is not the best. It's going to be very difficult to impose legislation on a government that doesn't want it. I think Johnson has quite a few options including making life so difficult for the EU that Macron wouldn't countenance an extension anyway. Boris the Brexit martyr might also be a winning position, peeling away enough Brexit Party votes to triumph in a November election. Best plan is still what Corbyn originally proposed: VONC plus caretaker govt. If only Lib Dems and Tory rebels could see reason

just heard Sam Gyimah saying he wouldn't touch a Corbyn caretaker govt with a barge-pole but not with any rational explanation why he wouldn't.

In January 2016, Ms Coffey voted to reject a proposed rule that would have required private landlords to make their homes “fit for human habitation”.

new Work and Pensions Secretary is another perfectly charming tory fit to oversee the regime of foodbanks and child poverty

there appears to be an unapologetic tory/melt consensus that a corbyn govt would literally be worse than a no-deal brexit

I turned on 5live. Ash Sarkar was on PIENAAR'S POLITICS. That was an improvement.

A Lib Dem came on and was dreadful, aggressive and arrogant.

Sarkar queried the LD policy of taking any incoming MPs as if going home with anyone from a nightclub. It was something I had thought of -- that a LD party that keeps taking Con MPs is changing its own character. Doesn't this make the LDs even more right-wing than before?

probably the only way to once and for all get rid of farage, johnson and their ilk is to do the hard brexit. after they will be finished as they have nothing else in their political program. it could be worth it...

Hi everyone I've been away for the last couple of weeks, what have I missed?

so what happens tomorrow if boris instructs brenda to deny royal assent to the no-no-deal bill? is that even an option?

Also the Tories will stand a candidate against Bercow to force him out

Downing Street declare war on Bercow pic.twitter.com/ZOZzyFrQuA

— MoS_Politics (@MoS_Politics) September 7, 2019

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the new secretary for work and pensions is a Muse fan.. Erm... Not much else

Matt - Robert Mugabe died.

I know he will be working flat out today like he always does, but l want to wish a big happy birthday to colleague @johnmcdonnellMP the #PeoplesChancellor I hope you get a chance at some point in the day to celebrate! 🎉 pic.twitter.com/U6tZwFBh7J

— Angela Rayner 🌈 (@AngelaRayner) September 8, 2019

h b McD

Lib Dems sure are busy on non-aggression pacts, just like LJ was calling for.

so having made a big song and dance about refusing to work with Corbyn on the grounds that he was a 'Brexiter', Swinson's Lib Dems are now preparing to stand aside for... a Brexiter? https://t.co/Egs1gIjg6q pic.twitter.com/5KZ5bOyxWn

— tom (@malaiseforever) September 8, 2019

Working flat out calmly as he always does

In theory but it’s a huge abuse of the royal prerogative and it’s involving her in party political stuff. It’s a mess and possibly illegal?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/08/the-flat-uk-economy-still-points-to-a-boris-johnson-election-victory

It's a confused enough reading, but factors in a few things to think about, i.e. we could be going to the polls when we are officially in a recession.

what's stopping the eu saying, "okay, we grant you a two year extension. since you asked so nicely."?

Provided Labour doesn’t allow the election to be dominated by Brexit and instead focuses on fixing the symptoms of a failed economic model: austerity, wages, job insecurity and a long-term failure to invest, victory is there for the taking.

that's exactly what I expect them to do, although more in a hope and see what happens manner - I always, with a feeling of dread, expect tories will win every election.

expect tories will win every election.

Rational to think this, but their form is poor, only 1 win outright in the last 6. But then theres the little brother party to help them over the line

the chief French diplomat Jean-Yves Le Drian said on tv this morning that, having seen no "alternative arrangements", he does not want France to approve another extension. Of course, this may be again the "good cop, bad cop" approach with Germany that we saw in March.

my hope is that Boris will be caught between alienating the headbangers and the moderate tories if the election is beyond 31/10 with A50 extended and the BP will split the vote. But there are probably many options they can take to avoid this outcome, but I have no idea what they are rn

Beginning to think the election-delaying "let Boris stew in his own juice" tactic is not the best.

I've noticed Farage, Richard Tice and Claire Fox all playing Captain-Save-a-Boris recently, it seems obvious to me that they are gagging for an electoral pact - but that's not on if Boris is forced to ask for an extension, even if he plays awkward buggers. So keep the cunt spinning on the end of a rope for as long as possible.

seems like the best option, whether figuratively or literally

Provided Labour doesn’t allow the election to be dominated by Brexit and instead focuses on fixing the symptoms of a failed economic model: austerity, wages, job insecurity and a long-term failure to invest, victory is there for the taking.

This doesn't seem likely, though - it's October / November 2019, Brexit will absolutely be 85% of the issues.

not on the stump necessarily, this is the point: of course brexit will dominate media coverage but that's the point of rallies and doorknocking, to end-run all that

To the things that people want to talk about more than Brexit, which do not exist.

Very happy to be wrong, but again this is now, not two years ago.

They defeated Farage in Peterborough by precisely concentrating on issues other than brexit

To the things that people want to talk about more than Brexit, which do not exist.

― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, September 8, 2019 2:08 PM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

seriously i think this is bubble-fed nonsense

Absolutely.

Peterborough was after the Brexit date had come and gone, it was a relief to get to talk about anything else - if they can repeat that, then brilliant.

I hope you're right, Mark! But other information does not suggest it:

https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/qj23oopdop/YG%20Trackers%20-%20Top%20Issues_W.pdf

Peterborough is seen as just the kind of leave voting high immigrant area that you'd think would be obsessed by Brexit talk. "Date had come and gone" didn't make the issue go away.

I think if anything, most people are sick of Brexit. "Get on with it" includes a large continent of those simply childishly bored of the stasis as well as those intent on necking with Johnson before careening off a cliff in a ford Thunderbird.

Usual thread participants are clearly a different category

this was a song about a girl getting into bed with the far right joanne https://t.co/kUkz6yqi7U

— sarah m (@sazza_jay) September 8, 2019

I don't see a pact that really works for the BxP. Where can they win that isn't (or until v recently) already Tory? There are a few three way battles they could gain (Dover, Thurrock) but too risky and helps Labour more.

Tory election strategy appears to be based on the belief that the North of England is a hotbed of raging bigots and that by doubling down on anti-snowflake culture war rhetoric they will see a whole swathe of red seats turning blue. That didn't work so well last time, even without the Brexit Party in play. You'd expect the LibDems to take seats off the Tories elsewhere as well.

I guess there'll be a sprinkling of splashing the cash to end austerity but "only once Brexit is out of the way" as well but it's been telegraphed so heavily Labour should have an attack line ready for that.

The BXP have said they will stand aside for MPs who support no deal. To me, this seems a high risk with shire Tories in marginals, but it may just be their opening gambit and they’re relying on Boris being desperate and grabbing at anything.

They'll be expecting a knighthood for Farage, providing he doesn't win a seat in the racist shithole of his choice, and some position or other in goverment, and Tice to be made ambassador to the US, for starters. Foot in the door stuff.

... I mean ennoblement for Farage.

I have absolutely no doubt they've been negotiating behind closed doors all this time. As I said, Farage, Tice and Claire Fox et al have been careful not to be critical of Johnson personally.

I don’t think Farage is standing in a constituency fwiw.