PMs change and lol we're all gonna die (but brexit will never end)

saw a "the conservatives will lose all seats in scotland, now ruth has gone" take out in the wild today... think you'll find ruth has gone because...

someone needs to write a piece about how right wing pols claiming One-Nation toryism as their doctrine is the worst kind of bullshit

My favourite iteration of that is all those media women who suggest Ken Clarke as head of GNU, but every single last one of them threw a fit a few years ago when he appeared on R4 and started chatting shit about ‘acquaintance rape’ v ‘rape-rape’.

John Mann also standing down.

Life is good.

A current (non-No10) special adviser texts re Amber Rudd:

“She should have been first out - she’s trashed her rep anyway now, my message would be fuck off to the Lib Dems where you belong.”

— Alex Wickham (@alexwickham) September 7, 2019

xp I had never read his views on this, Jesus Christ
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13444770

good luck uk

The Conservatives have extended their lead over Labour as pro-Brexit voters return to the party, according to the latest Opinium poll for the Observer.

Despite a week of political chaos that has seen Boris Johnson purge the party of 21 MPs who oppose his plans, the Tories recorded a 10-point lead over Labour. For the first time since March, more than half (53%) of leave voters now intend to vote Conservative. Almost half of all voters (46%) now think the Conservative party has in effect become the Brexit party.

The polling will be used by Johnson’s team as evidence that their ruthless strategy to push hard to secure Brexit and hold an election can work. However, the strategy has run aground as opposition parties are blocking an election from taking place.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/07/tories-extend-lead-over-labour-to-10-despite-chaotic-week

Rudd-y Hell
Down To Earth With A Rudd
Rudd And Honour oh hold on

If they are rising in the polls then the King vs Parliament narrative is working, or at least working "enough" to cover the eventuality of having to do extension after all. Parliament blocked the King is then plausible enough to hold off Farage if GE were post Oct-31 (if it really is Brexit Party they need to hold off).

I'm not super sold on the idea Boris has failed, or even that he's made a miscalculation. Maybe he has but this idea he's destroying the Tories electorally seems wildly optimistic

Fucked it from the perspective of numbers. They need to have a majority to do what they want, and that survation poll is putting them in a worse place than 2017. Not even the DUP would cover it. And he has got himself in quite a corner. There can be probably be a not very damaging climbdown for Johnson.

Corbyn would probably go if that poll is right though.

The point of the whole thing is to turn the Tories into enough of an ERG party to neutralise the Brexit Party, and that’s what the polls now show. Most of the leaverish Just Get On With It voters who this appeals to are over 40.

Polls ask a really tiny sample, all things considered...

Polls, posting as they normally etc.

I would say we haven't gone into an election campaign just yet. From the evidence its difficult to see Johnson holding it together. OTOH a lot of people will vote Lib Dem unless the Lab line of another deal (- May's red lines) with remain as option in another ref cuts through. And it's also whether the campaign is all about Brexit, like we thought it might be in 2017. It can't be all about that.

Well, Lib Dems are a single-issue party without any policies apart from staying in the EU. When I was watching QT in Thursday I noticed that Brexit Party twat and Iain Dale trying to put a wedge between ‘remain parties’ eg SNP/LD and Labour, which they did not characterise as such. I didn’t like the way both of those men kept interrupting Emily Thornberry and then acting as if it was she that stopped them from talking. ET is successful because she doesn’t suffer that kind of foolishness from men (she pretty much always gave way to the LD/SNP panellists).

Labour would do well to distill its position into a really short sentence and then hammer that message constantly.

Lib Dems are a single-issue party without any policies apart from staying in the EU

They have identity politics too though, this is the big danger, that they tap more successfully into that, People who vote for non-policy reasons, people who love stationery excessively

Labour would do well to distill its position into a really short sentence and then hammer that message constantly.

This, all day long, this. Nothing wrong with being soundbitey. Its tough because its not necessarily as easily distillable as Build The Wall or Medicare For All, but being snappy is good

why does MR seumas milne not give box office quotes like this

🔥 Senior govt source responds 🔥

“The rebel’s without a clue should get their two Euros in ASAP. No one cares about the views of ex MPs, which is what they’ll all be by Christmas.”

— Paul Brand (@PaulBrandITV) September 7, 2019

the sight of LDs begging for amber rudd to join them.... mmmmmmmm edifying

Labour would do well to distill its position into a really short sentence and then hammer that message constantly.
― coup de twat (suzy), Sunday, 8 September 2019 07:28 (fifteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

We will negotiate a new deal with the EU, with protection of jobs, workers' rights and the environment at its core. We will then ask the people to give their view on that deal in a referendum against the option of remaining.

We will negotiate the best deal possible; we will then offer that deal against an option to remain, so that both sides of the referendum are represented.

Why campaign against your own deal?

Because if people vote to leave again, it will be on the best possible terms.

The editor in me says that’s still too long! Get it down to two snappy lines containing implicit criticism of BP/Tories and you’re good to go.

how about CRUSH THE SABOTEURS

Lol probably but it’s the gist! They should be aiming to pry off the Leave voters who haven’t changed their minds but don’t want no deal.

Agree - these are good policies but also agree with Suzy that it still needs to be punchier.

I find that I agree with Suzy a lot about politics!

"A Proper Choice, Mates"

blobby blobby blobby

Can the writers who post here come up with something? So much for experts lol

Jesus fuck

That’s politics! And Amber’s resignation is massive news! https://t.co/G2uK2flsB7

— Angela Smith MP (@angelasmithmp) September 7, 2019

I’m trying! Am also able to forward anything we come up with to Labour speech writers, so let’s get stuck in.

probably the only way to once and for all get rid of farage, johnson and their ilk is to do the hard brexit. after they will be finished as they have nothing else in their political program. it could be worth it...

i’m sure that’d be some comfort to the families of the thousands of sick and vulnerable people in the uk that a hard Brexit would kill

http://britainelects.com/2019/09/07/poll-tories-will-struggle-in-an-election-if-brexit-delayed/

These figures suggest an electoral backlash may be in store for Boris Johnson, in what seemingly is becoming the likely scenario of Britain’s exit from the EU being delayed beyond the 31st of October and an election to be held shortly after. Voters would drift from the Tories to the Brexit Party, gifting Labour a chance at becoming the largest party with support from the Liberal Democrats.

perhaps a bit of woolgathering involved here but i like the sound of this scenario

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 31% (-4)
LAB: 28% (+4)
LDEM: 17% (-1)
BREX: 13% (-1)

via @DeltapollUK, 05 - 07 Sep

— Britain Elects (@britainelects) September 8, 2019

latest deltapoll bringing sunday morning good vibes

so what happens tomorrow if boris instructs brenda to deny royal assent to the no-no-deal bill? is that even an option?

Beginning to think the election-delaying "let Boris stew in his own juice" tactic is not the best. It's going to be very difficult to impose legislation on a government that doesn't want it. I think Johnson has quite a few options including making life so difficult for the EU that Macron wouldn't countenance an extension anyway. Boris the Brexit martyr might also be a winning position, peeling away enough Brexit Party votes to triumph in a November election. Best plan is still what Corbyn originally proposed: VONC plus caretaker govt. If only Lib Dems and Tory rebels could see reason

just heard Sam Gyimah saying he wouldn't touch a Corbyn caretaker govt with a barge-pole but not with any rational explanation why he wouldn't.

In January 2016, Ms Coffey voted to reject a proposed rule that would have required private landlords to make their homes “fit for human habitation”.

new Work and Pensions Secretary is another perfectly charming tory fit to oversee the regime of foodbanks and child poverty

there appears to be an unapologetic tory/melt consensus that a corbyn govt would literally be worse than a no-deal brexit

I turned on 5live. Ash Sarkar was on PIENAAR'S POLITICS. That was an improvement.

A Lib Dem came on and was dreadful, aggressive and arrogant.

Sarkar queried the LD policy of taking any incoming MPs as if going home with anyone from a nightclub. It was something I had thought of -- that a LD party that keeps taking Con MPs is changing its own character. Doesn't this make the LDs even more right-wing than before?

probably the only way to once and for all get rid of farage, johnson and their ilk is to do the hard brexit. after they will be finished as they have nothing else in their political program. it could be worth it...

Hi everyone I've been away for the last couple of weeks, what have I missed?

so what happens tomorrow if boris instructs brenda to deny royal assent to the no-no-deal bill? is that even an option?

Also the Tories will stand a candidate against Bercow to force him out

Downing Street declare war on Bercow pic.twitter.com/ZOZzyFrQuA

— MoS_Politics (@MoS_Politics) September 7, 2019

Xxp
the new secretary for work and pensions is a Muse fan.. Erm... Not much else

Matt - Robert Mugabe died.

I know he will be working flat out today like he always does, but l want to wish a big happy birthday to colleague @johnmcdonnellMP the #PeoplesChancellor I hope you get a chance at some point in the day to celebrate! 🎉 pic.twitter.com/U6tZwFBh7J

— Angela Rayner 🌈 (@AngelaRayner) September 8, 2019

h b McD

Lib Dems sure are busy on non-aggression pacts, just like LJ was calling for.

so having made a big song and dance about refusing to work with Corbyn on the grounds that he was a 'Brexiter', Swinson's Lib Dems are now preparing to stand aside for... a Brexiter? https://t.co/Egs1gIjg6q pic.twitter.com/5KZ5bOyxWn

— tom (@malaiseforever) September 8, 2019

Working flat out calmly as he always does

In theory but it’s a huge abuse of the royal prerogative and it’s involving her in party political stuff. It’s a mess and possibly illegal?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/sep/08/the-flat-uk-economy-still-points-to-a-boris-johnson-election-victory

It's a confused enough reading, but factors in a few things to think about, i.e. we could be going to the polls when we are officially in a recession.

what's stopping the eu saying, "okay, we grant you a two year extension. since you asked so nicely."?