Every time I try to think of something off of that Liz Phair album in general, the song that leaps into mind is Jewel's "Intuition"
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
(I forget how many indie luminaries went to Oberlin. Phair, Seam/Bitch Magnet guys, incl. John McEntire, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Songs:Ohia folks, Jon Theodore ...)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
I suppose that album with “Bollywood” and “U Hate It” is also a 10.0 all-time classic?
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 6 September 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
i once put a track from that liz phair album on a mixtape for someone and they were still annoyed at me about it years later
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
(I forget how many indie luminaries went to Oberlin. Phair, Seam/Bitch Magnet guys, incl. John McEntire, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Songs:Ohia folks, Jon Theodore ...)― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM (two hours ago)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM (two hours ago)
Greg Saunier of deerhoof...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
Guess it's cool for that writer to learn that he dissed Liz Phair for the wrong reasons, but it's still a bad album.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
If memory serves, part of the reaction stemmed from her specific choice of the Matrix as writing partner. At the time they were best known for working with Avril Lavigne, who of course was dogged by calls of inauthenticity. The silly "sell out" call hit Phair before the self titled album, but the self titled album felt pretty desperate and cynical, like she gave up trying to be successful the other way and instead tried to buy her way in. Again, this is from memory.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I mean, I personally was a big Liz Phair fan who also loved the Avril album, so I was psyched for the S/T — and it turned out to be such a disappointing letdown.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
dont like the album but I always thought it was cool how she owned it, just being like "i've got a kid, I'm trying to make some money, idgaf."
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
Also, she released a really good song online, six months or so before the album came out — I think it may have been one of the tracks she worked on with Michael Penn? — but neither that song, nor anything like it, ended up on the album. If anyone knows what that track was, I’d love to hear it again; I recall the video had her walking around Chinatown (paper lanterns, etc.), with kind of a stop-motion effect.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
(Not stop motion, more like “freeze frames” — a series of stills instead of smooth video.)
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Yeah the album she made with Penn was rejected
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 6 September 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
Found a ref online to the song I was talking about:
Phair recorded a song called "Down" in response to her divorce. A quasi-stop-motion animation video using photographs was created for it by filmmaker Rodney Ascher (he shot fifty rolls of still photographs in L.A.'s Chinatown), and posted on her official website LizPhair.com. The song was never officially released on any of her albums.
...and here's the video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqgRbo9NAFM
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
Thanks, wikipedia, for teaching me that Phair sings backup on Sheryl Crow's "Soak Up the Sun."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
I've been away for a few days and just read that Tool review and sorry if dude posts here or whatever but that was some of the most condescending bullshit I've read in a while
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 7 September 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
why don't you say it to my face, paul
― I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
I'd say come to Pittsburgh to discuss over a beer but the tone of your review makes me think you'd find such a place pretty icky and unsophisticated. Maybe I'll look you up next time I'm in Brooklyn looking for kale cupcakes.
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
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― omar little, Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
As someone who is unlikely to ever listen to that Tool album, the p4k review is solid lols
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
I was amazed when I saw Phair last year and she played as many songs off S/T as Guyville and "Why Can't I" got the biggest reaction of the night.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
I was ok through most of that diss, mostly because I still haven’t read the review. But I felt some shame when I read the words “kale cupcakes” and it sounded appetizing
― I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Saturday, 7 September 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
idk, I just read the tool review and found it really unremarkable. whatever cringy “humor” style the writer is going for, uhh they should not do that.
― brimstead, Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
People trying to be funny who aren’t naturally funny. ugh. yeah I know the irony of this post
― brimstead, Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
The requirements are low when making fun of Terrence McKenna-DMT dweebs IMO. Tool are the Joe Rogan of rock.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 8 September 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link
The kd lang review is amazing. I seldom read a music review and think “wow I wish I could write as good as that@ but kudos to Laura Snapes, I wish I could write as good as her
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it's a great review of an album I bought when it was new, based on a rapturous review I read somewhere - Rolling Stone, maybe - and never made it through the first song.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
I forgotten how sharp "Miss Chatelaine" and "Season of Hollow Soul" are.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
Watch Post Malone Sing Fleet Foxes While Smoking a Cigarette
― omar little, Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
Watch the Chainsmokers Sing "Post Malone" while Fleeting a Fox
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
xpost I think I will!
― alpine static, Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
"Tekashi 6ix9ine Testifies at Trial That Jim Jones Is a Nine Trey Gangsta Blood"
― enochroot, Friday, 20 September 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
Did he say what kind of IPA he prefers?
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 20 September 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
hard to say that the 6ix9ine thing isn't a major story
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 September 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
He also said Cardi was a Blood, which seems like the headline they'd go with
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 20 September 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
i have blood in my veins.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 20 September 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
Have no idea what any of this means, tbh.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 20 September 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
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― ☮ (peace, man), Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:07 (four years ago) link
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― Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:37 (four years ago) link
Oh no, what did Trey do?
― Mario Meatwagon (Moodles), Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:42 (four years ago) link
Phishing scam :(
― tylerw, Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:04 (four years ago) link
lol
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:54 (four years ago) link
Can't say I was expecting today's retrospective review.
― pomenitul, Sunday, 22 September 2019 11:58 (four years ago) link
I think we're still allowed to like Darkthrone because Fenriz had no involvement in the killings and stuff. Also:
Fenriz eventually apologized and disowned his behavior both in his words and his actions throughout the 2000s...In the liner notes of a career retrospective box set Black Death and Beyond, he acknowledged his regret over the language he used in the ’90s. 'There is no excuse,' he wrote."
so, cult of personality (everyone loves Fenriz, bm's most lovable and charismatic goofball) + repentance for problematic opinions = retrospective review. You certainly won't be seeing any retrospective Burzum reviews on Pfork anytime soon, despite the fact that Burzum's early records are better and more historically significant than this particular Darkthrone album
― Paul Ponzi, Sunday, 22 September 2019 12:29 (four years ago) link
I don't know, I could see a Burzum review. Though probably not with the link that says 'click here to buy, pitchfork might earn a commission'.
― Frederik B, Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:13 (four years ago) link
the darkthrone trilogy is as historically significant as burzum come on
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:15 (four years ago) link
considerably more so imo
― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:20 (four years ago) link
i totally agree
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:36 (four years ago) link
The Burzum album is goofy as shit also
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Sunday, 22 September 2019 17:44 (four years ago) link
so what's gonna win album of the decade
― flappy bird, Monday, 23 September 2019 17:06 (four years ago) link