pitchfork is dumb (#34985859340293849494 in a series.)

There should be more (& longer) twitter apology threads for all of Pitchfork's terrible takes. It would be a massive undertaking but it would be helpful (for them).

1/ I tremendously enjoyed this interview with @PhizLair, which has given me cause to reflect on the condescending and cringey 0.0 review I wrote way back when. https://t.co/NsraIm6TTR

— Matt LeMay (@mattlemay) September 5, 2019

that interview was indeed terrific and is making me really excited about her book

I like that Boy Scouts review and I like Matt LeMay’s tweet

Screw revisionist history, that Liz Phair album fucking sucked.

good ol' Snrub

I interviewed her around that time, and she told me in the end she just wanted to record an album that had a chance of getting played at the gym when she worked out.

Hah, my college roommate would see her at their gym during this timeframe (Manhattan Beach 24 Hour Fitness).

Every time I try to think of something off of that Liz Phair album in general, the song that leaps into mind is Jewel's "Intuition"

(I forget how many indie luminaries went to Oberlin. Phair, Seam/Bitch Magnet guys, incl. John McEntire, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Songs:Ohia folks, Jon Theodore ...)

I suppose that album with “Bollywood” and “U Hate It” is also a 10.0 all-time classic?

i once put a track from that liz phair album on a mixtape for someone and they were still annoyed at me about it years later

(I forget how many indie luminaries went to Oberlin. Phair, Seam/Bitch Magnet guys, incl. John McEntire, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Songs:Ohia folks, Jon Theodore ...)

― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM (two hours ago)

Greg Saunier of deerhoof...

Guess it's cool for that writer to learn that he dissed Liz Phair for the wrong reasons, but it's still a bad album.

If memory serves, part of the reaction stemmed from her specific choice of the Matrix as writing partner. At the time they were best known for working with Avril Lavigne, who of course was dogged by calls of inauthenticity. The silly "sell out" call hit Phair before the self titled album, but the self titled album felt pretty desperate and cynical, like she gave up trying to be successful the other way and instead tried to buy her way in. Again, this is from memory.

Yeah, I mean, I personally was a big Liz Phair fan who also loved the Avril album, so I was psyched for the S/T — and it turned out to be such a disappointing letdown.

dont like the album but I always thought it was cool how she owned it, just being like "i've got a kid, I'm trying to make some money, idgaf."

Also, she released a really good song online, six months or so before the album came out — I think it may have been one of the tracks she worked on with Michael Penn? — but neither that song, nor anything like it, ended up on the album.

If anyone knows what that track was, I’d love to hear it again; I recall the video had her walking around Chinatown (paper lanterns, etc.), with kind of a stop-motion effect.

(Not stop motion, more like “freeze frames” — a series of stills instead of smooth video.)

Yeah the album she made with Penn was rejected

Found a ref online to the song I was talking about:

Phair recorded a song called "Down" in response to her divorce. A quasi-stop-motion animation video using photographs was created for it by filmmaker Rodney Ascher (he shot fifty rolls of still photographs in L.A.'s Chinatown), and posted on her official website LizPhair.com. The song was never officially released on any of her albums.

...and here's the video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqgRbo9NAFM

Thanks, wikipedia, for teaching me that Phair sings backup on Sheryl Crow's "Soak Up the Sun."

I've been away for a few days and just read that Tool review and sorry if dude posts here or whatever but that was some of the most condescending bullshit I've read in a while

why don't you say it to my face, paul

I'd say come to Pittsburgh to discuss over a beer but the tone of your review makes me think you'd find such a place pretty icky and unsophisticated. Maybe I'll look you up next time I'm in Brooklyn looking for kale cupcakes.

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As someone who is unlikely to ever listen to that Tool album, the p4k review is solid lols

I was amazed when I saw Phair last year and she played as many songs off S/T as Guyville and "Why Can't I" got the biggest reaction of the night.

I was ok through most of that diss, mostly because I still haven’t read the review. But I felt some shame when I read the words “kale cupcakes” and it sounded appetizing

idk, I just read the tool review and found it really unremarkable. whatever cringy “humor” style the writer is going for, uhh they should not do that.

People trying to be funny who aren’t naturally funny. ugh. yeah I know the irony of this post

The requirements are low when making fun of Terrence McKenna-DMT dweebs IMO. Tool are the Joe Rogan of rock.

The kd lang review is amazing. I seldom read a music review and think “wow I wish I could write as good as that@ but kudos to Laura Snapes, I wish I could write as good as her

The kd lang review is amazing. I seldom read a music review and think “wow I wish I could write as good as that@ but kudos to Laura Snapes, I wish I could write as good as her

Yeah, it's a great review of an album I bought when it was new, based on a rapturous review I read somewhere - Rolling Stone, maybe - and never made it through the first song.

I forgotten how sharp "Miss Chatelaine" and "Season of Hollow Soul" are.

Watch Post Malone Sing Fleet Foxes While Smoking a Cigarette

Watch the Chainsmokers Sing "Post Malone" while Fleeting a Fox

xpost I think I will!

"Tekashi 6ix9ine Testifies at Trial That Jim Jones Is a Nine Trey Gangsta Blood"

Did he say what kind of IPA he prefers?

hard to say that the 6ix9ine thing isn't a major story

He also said Cardi was a Blood, which seems like the headline they'd go with

i have blood in my veins.

"Tekashi 6ix9ine Testifies at Trial That Jim Jones Is a Nine Trey Gangsta Blood"

Have no idea what any of this means, tbh.

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Oh no, what did Trey do?

Phishing scam :(

lol

Can't say I was expecting today's retrospective review.