https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/boy-scouts-free-company/
another review that gives you zero idea what the album sounds like
― Οὖτις, Friday, 6 September 2019 15:30 (four years ago) link
hazy and dreamlike, calling to mind tour mate Jay Som,
there ya go
― normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 September 2019 15:35 (four years ago) link
No, you mustn't ignore lyrics! Lyrics are incredibly important, probably the most important thing of all, and any critic who chooses to look past them is failing themselves and the reader!
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Friday, September 6, 2019 10:09 AM (twenty-six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
im of the opinion that lyrics are much less important than the music unless they're extremely good or extremely bad. you can guess which category tool falls under.
― normal fucking rockman (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 September 2019 15:37 (four years ago) link
That Tropical Fuck Storm is maybe my favorite album of the year so far, which lines up with Pitchfork giving it a 6. They seem to do that with most of my favorites.
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Friday, 6 September 2019 16:01 (four years ago) link
There should be more (& longer) twitter apology threads for all of Pitchfork's terrible takes. It would be a massive undertaking but it would be helpful (for them).
1/ I tremendously enjoyed this interview with @PhizLair, which has given me cause to reflect on the condescending and cringey 0.0 review I wrote way back when. https://t.co/NsraIm6TTR— Matt LeMay (@mattlemay) September 5, 2019
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 6 September 2019 16:28 (four years ago) link
that interview was indeed terrific and is making me really excited about her book
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Friday, 6 September 2019 16:31 (four years ago) link
I like that Boy Scouts review and I like Matt LeMay’s tweet
― flamboyant goon tie included, Friday, 6 September 2019 16:38 (four years ago) link
Screw revisionist history, that Liz Phair album fucking sucked.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:24 (four years ago) link
good ol' Snrub
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:25 (four years ago) link
I interviewed her around that time, and she told me in the end she just wanted to record an album that had a chance of getting played at the gym when she worked out.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:33 (four years ago) link
Hah, my college roommate would see her at their gym during this timeframe (Manhattan Beach 24 Hour Fitness).
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:35 (four years ago) link
Every time I try to think of something off of that Liz Phair album in general, the song that leaps into mind is Jewel's "Intuition"
― brigadier pudding (DJP), Friday, 6 September 2019 17:37 (four years ago) link
(I forget how many indie luminaries went to Oberlin. Phair, Seam/Bitch Magnet guys, incl. John McEntire, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Songs:Ohia folks, Jon Theodore ...)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 17:40 (four years ago) link
I suppose that album with “Bollywood” and “U Hate It” is also a 10.0 all-time classic?
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 6 September 2019 18:52 (four years ago) link
i once put a track from that liz phair album on a mixtape for someone and they were still annoyed at me about it years later
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, 6 September 2019 19:04 (four years ago) link
(I forget how many indie luminaries went to Oberlin. Phair, Seam/Bitch Magnet guys, incl. John McEntire, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Songs:Ohia folks, Jon Theodore ...)― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM (two hours ago)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, September 6, 2019 10:40 AM (two hours ago)
Greg Saunier of deerhoof...
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:02 (four years ago) link
Guess it's cool for that writer to learn that he dissed Liz Phair for the wrong reasons, but it's still a bad album.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:09 (four years ago) link
If memory serves, part of the reaction stemmed from her specific choice of the Matrix as writing partner. At the time they were best known for working with Avril Lavigne, who of course was dogged by calls of inauthenticity. The silly "sell out" call hit Phair before the self titled album, but the self titled album felt pretty desperate and cynical, like she gave up trying to be successful the other way and instead tried to buy her way in. Again, this is from memory.
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 20:22 (four years ago) link
Yeah, I mean, I personally was a big Liz Phair fan who also loved the Avril album, so I was psyched for the S/T — and it turned out to be such a disappointing letdown.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:27 (four years ago) link
dont like the album but I always thought it was cool how she owned it, just being like "i've got a kid, I'm trying to make some money, idgaf."
― “Hakuna Matata,” a nihilist philosophy (One Eye Open), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:33 (four years ago) link
Also, she released a really good song online, six months or so before the album came out — I think it may have been one of the tracks she worked on with Michael Penn? — but neither that song, nor anything like it, ended up on the album. If anyone knows what that track was, I’d love to hear it again; I recall the video had her walking around Chinatown (paper lanterns, etc.), with kind of a stop-motion effect.
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:34 (four years ago) link
(Not stop motion, more like “freeze frames” — a series of stills instead of smooth video.)
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 20:36 (four years ago) link
Yeah the album she made with Penn was rejected
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 6 September 2019 21:04 (four years ago) link
Found a ref online to the song I was talking about:
Phair recorded a song called "Down" in response to her divorce. A quasi-stop-motion animation video using photographs was created for it by filmmaker Rodney Ascher (he shot fifty rolls of still photographs in L.A.'s Chinatown), and posted on her official website LizPhair.com. The song was never officially released on any of her albums.
...and here's the video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqgRbo9NAFM
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 6 September 2019 21:34 (four years ago) link
Thanks, wikipedia, for teaching me that Phair sings backup on Sheryl Crow's "Soak Up the Sun."
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 6 September 2019 21:37 (four years ago) link
I've been away for a few days and just read that Tool review and sorry if dude posts here or whatever but that was some of the most condescending bullshit I've read in a while
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 7 September 2019 19:55 (four years ago) link
why don't you say it to my face, paul
― I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:16 (four years ago) link
I'd say come to Pittsburgh to discuss over a beer but the tone of your review makes me think you'd find such a place pretty icky and unsophisticated. Maybe I'll look you up next time I'm in Brooklyn looking for kale cupcakes.
― Paul Ponzi, Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:26 (four years ago) link
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― omar little, Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:33 (four years ago) link
As someone who is unlikely to ever listen to that Tool album, the p4k review is solid lols
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:51 (four years ago) link
I was amazed when I saw Phair last year and she played as many songs off S/T as Guyville and "Why Can't I" got the biggest reaction of the night.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Saturday, 7 September 2019 21:53 (four years ago) link
I was ok through most of that diss, mostly because I still haven’t read the review. But I felt some shame when I read the words “kale cupcakes” and it sounded appetizing
― I am also Harl (Karl Malone), Saturday, 7 September 2019 22:08 (four years ago) link
idk, I just read the tool review and found it really unremarkable. whatever cringy “humor” style the writer is going for, uhh they should not do that.
― brimstead, Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:21 (four years ago) link
People trying to be funny who aren’t naturally funny. ugh. yeah I know the irony of this post
― brimstead, Sunday, 8 September 2019 01:23 (four years ago) link
The requirements are low when making fun of Terrence McKenna-DMT dweebs IMO. Tool are the Joe Rogan of rock.
― Greta Van Show Feets BB (milo z), Sunday, 8 September 2019 02:00 (four years ago) link
The kd lang review is amazing. I seldom read a music review and think “wow I wish I could write as good as that@ but kudos to Laura Snapes, I wish I could write as good as her
― flamboyant goon tie included, Sunday, 8 September 2019 13:02 (four years ago) link
Yeah, it's a great review of an album I bought when it was new, based on a rapturous review I read somewhere - Rolling Stone, maybe - and never made it through the first song.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:38 (four years ago) link
I forgotten how sharp "Miss Chatelaine" and "Season of Hollow Soul" are.
― TikTok to the (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 September 2019 14:44 (four years ago) link
Watch Post Malone Sing Fleet Foxes While Smoking a Cigarette
― omar little, Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:32 (four years ago) link
Watch the Chainsmokers Sing "Post Malone" while Fleeting a Fox
― Fuck the NRA (ulysses), Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:33 (four years ago) link
xpost I think I will!
― alpine static, Thursday, 12 September 2019 22:55 (four years ago) link
"Tekashi 6ix9ine Testifies at Trial That Jim Jones Is a Nine Trey Gangsta Blood"
― enochroot, Friday, 20 September 2019 13:42 (four years ago) link
Did he say what kind of IPA he prefers?
― #YABASIC (morrisp), Friday, 20 September 2019 14:15 (four years ago) link
hard to say that the 6ix9ine thing isn't a major story
― Mommy...can I go out and VAPE tonight? (voodoo chili), Friday, 20 September 2019 14:25 (four years ago) link
He also said Cardi was a Blood, which seems like the headline they'd go with
― Muswell Hillbilly Elegy (President Keyes), Friday, 20 September 2019 14:52 (four years ago) link
i have blood in my veins.
― Totally different head. Totally. (Austin), Friday, 20 September 2019 17:38 (four years ago) link
Have no idea what any of this means, tbh.
― Mr. Snrub, Friday, 20 September 2019 21:56 (four years ago) link
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― Sally Jessy (Karl Malone), Saturday, 21 September 2019 01:37 (four years ago) link