The September 2019 US Politics Thread is great Great GREAT GR8

the toilet thing

it's so dumb it's not worth talking about but the toilet design referenced is one that has a drinking fountain installed above the water tank, it a common feature of correctional facilities

https://amp.businessinsider.com/images/5d1b29dda17d6c1bf5115e35-1920-960.jpg

uh I thought part of the story was that the drinking fountain was broken and the guards told the inmates to drink out of the toilet bowl

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/adolfoflores/immigrants-drinking-toilets-water-aoc-border-patrol

Rep. Joaquin Castro said that at Border Patrol Station 1 near El Paso a group of 15 to 20 mothers were held in a cell that had a toilet with no running water.

"There was a toilet but no running water for people to drink," Castro said. "One of the women said she was told by an agent to drink water out of the toilet."

xps Oh I thought you meant it didn't actually happen, not that it did but it wasn't actually a toilet. I agree w you, though I think AOC herself pointed out that those toilet/fountain combos were not working when she toured the place and so it was stagnant water whose potability was unknown.

it a common feature of correctional facilities

I get your point, but calling jails and prisons "correctional facilities" is parroting some hardcore doublespeak. I do it, too, sometimes, but I wish I didn't.

no, it is commonly accepted nomenclature in use by public officials and in public documents. It's called the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation and that's how they refer to them.

the utility of the term is that it encompasses jails, prisons, healthcare facilities, housing, temporary structures, all kinds of stuff that might be under the purview of a single agency.

commonly accepted nomenclature in use by public officials and in public documents.

This does not preclude it being doublespeak. These are common places for such occluded language to be put to use. I would say that lumping together "healthcare facilities, housing and temporary structures" with "jails and prisons" is not a way to achieve clarity about one's subject matter, but a way to make understanding what is being discussed more difficult.

This does not preclude it being doublespeak

True, but also true of a lot of things that we don’t mind saying - Department of Defense, United States, etc

What i was discussing was facilities run by a dept that manages imprisoned populations, which includes all the types i listed, among others. This is the opposite of obfuscation.

rmde at usual semantic nonsense in an ilx politics thread

can we go back to arguing about what constitutes a toilet now

I’ve been preparing for this moment all my life but I still don’t feel prepared

-Phil Collins

rmde at usual semantic nonsense in an ilx politics thread

Perhaps it is time I was sent to a re-educational facility to engage in a few struggle sessions so my anti-social behavior can get corrected.

What constitutes a toilet?

Question 1 (final question)

Do you shit in it?

wait what do you call them on a tour bus then

A tourlet

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnBDqlQNglE

always the doubleplusgood debates on days when I see doctors

How are you feeling these days, Morbs?

tired

thx

Wow. As Trump primary challengers circle, Republican state parties in South Carolina, Nevada, Arizona and Kansas are expected to cancel their 2020 primaries and caucuses @politicoalex⁩ reports. https://t.co/sKGUyy6OrR

— Alex Thompson (@AlxThomp) September 6, 2019

they don't want president baby to suffer the indignity of only getting 90% of the primary vote.

Remember when everyone complained about superdelegates?

He is the most unfairly treated blurgbuggmapdfrtt in the history of uuugha

good morning!

*”good morning” while rolling down stairs*

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3oesSyvh76g

good morning mr president

The Fake News Media was fixated on the fact that I properly said, at the beginnings of Hurricane Dorian, that in addition to Florida & other states, Alabama may also be grazed or hit. They went Crazy, hoping against hope that I made a mistake (which I didn’t). Check out maps.....

— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) September 6, 2019

"They"

Everything involving this stupid weather map is the dumbest fucking thing and I honestly wish another nuclear power would just put us out of our misery

It’s dumber than most of his crimes with less imminent harms for immed victims, true. And therefore more annoying.

I think I'd faint if he ever admitted a mistake

WTF he's STILL hammering on about this today?

I'll be delighted and dismayed if sharpiegate is what finally brings him down

ok when GOP fundraisers are this worried + the retirements + revised Cook Report ratings yeah TX is gonna be interesting
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/460155-texas-republicans-sound-alarm-about-rapidly-evolving-state

Trump took obvious delight in hyping up the threat of the hurricane and is genuinely disappointed it hasn't lived up to it.

but his Sharpie

as for TX, gotta ramp up that voter suppression

The Texas GOP is also courting the out-of-state newcomers — the “refugees fleeing oppressive legislatures,” as Dickey calls them — who have made Texas the fastest growing state in the country.

Interesting choice of noun for those fleeing oppressive legislatures.

worth mentioning that telling people the weather is one of the few parts of the job he actually seems to enjoy

do u.s. president get regular psychological evaluations? if they don't, i think they should.

Well, when the president does it, that means that it is not insane.

sharpiegate made everyone forget about him tweeting out that spy satellite image. genius!

I already forget what him tweeting out spy satellite image made everyone forget about

Republicans are rushing to address the perception that they’re predominately the party of older white men in an increasingly diverse state.

ah yes that "perception"

I already forget what him tweeting out spy satellite image made everyone forget about

disloyal jews?

xp they are also the party of older white women

not really. GOP is hemorrhaging votes from women.

I think sharpiegate is related to his poor vision, which has been speculated on elsewhere. I think he thought the part of the FL panhandle that was on the edge of the predicted range of the storm was actually part of Alabama. There is a longitudinal line on the map which might have contributed to this. The reason he is doubling down so hard (other than never wanting to be wrong) is that a) he doesn’t want to be called out for having bad vision, and b) he doesn’t want his base in that area to know that he doesn’t know where Alabama ends and Florida begins.